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Post#461 » by Dalek » Tue Jun 4, 2024 5:09 pm

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Not surprised at all. It was a pipe dream that he'd fall to 19


I think it is Memphis. Obviously because of Anthony Carter working as a coach, but also he fits their approach, they could use a back-up PG for Ja and they are an analytically driven team, and his POA defense is special.

With all that said, if Devin Carter is lottery then it speaks to how bad the draft is because it is the equivalent of Davion Mitchell and Justice Winslow going lotto. It just doesn't make sense.
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Post#462 » by redraptor77 » Tue Jun 4, 2024 5:10 pm

I don’t recall a draft that is approximately 3 weeks away having such a variety and wide number of various spread mock drafts. By now, typically the top five is set. Top ten is consistent. This draft is nuts. There is no mock remotely close.
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Post#463 » by billy_hoyle » Tue Jun 4, 2024 5:18 pm

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Not surprised at all. It was a pipe dream that he'd fall to 19


I think it is Memphis. Obviously because of Anthony Carter working as a coach, but also he fits their approach, they could use a back-up PG for Ja and they are an analytically driven team, and his POA defense is special.

With all that said, if Devin Carter is lottery then it speaks to how bad the draft is because it is the equivalent of Davion Mitchell and Justice Winslow going lotto. It just doesn't make sense.


Why doesn't it make sense?

Davion Mitchell and Justice Winslow both went lotto (right around 9). In drafts that weren't considered weak.
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Post#464 » by C_Money » Tue Jun 4, 2024 5:24 pm

Be careful of smokescreens and agents trying to hype up their guys. Don’t believe every tweet you read.
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Post#465 » by WuTang_CMB » Tue Jun 4, 2024 5:32 pm

This draft is weak with star talent, hence why the top 10 is more like starting from 8 in an average draft. At 19 and 31, the goal should just be to find contributors and role players that can fit our system and can grow with our young group. We will draft a big, that much im certain
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Post#466 » by ForeverTFC » Tue Jun 4, 2024 6:06 pm

redraptor77 wrote:I don’t recall a draft that is approximately 3 weeks away having such a variety and wide number of various spread mock drafts. By now, typically the top five is set. Top ten is consistent. This draft is nuts. There is no mock remotely close.


From what I understand, the way teams approach the draft and journalists approach mocks is by tiering guys. The vast majority of players in this draft are all in the same tiers and Veccenie said there is no tier 1 or tier 2 player. As you go lower in tiers, the lines blur. So then it comes down to how much you prefer guys within a given tier or 2, which more than likely comes down to fit. That's probably why the mocks are all over the place.
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Post#467 » by ArthurVandelay » Tue Jun 4, 2024 6:07 pm

ItsDanger wrote:Edey is a physical screener so can improve IQ & Dick's offense immediately. Re: post ups, remember in back end of shot clock, an Edey post up is a good option and yes depending on who's guarding him, he can get a shot off faster than you think.


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Post#469 » by ForeverTFC » Tue Jun 4, 2024 6:11 pm

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DG88 wrote:Not surprised at all. It was a pipe dream that he'd fall to 19


I think it is Memphis. Obviously because of Anthony Carter working as a coach, but also he fits their approach, they could use a back-up PG for Ja and they are an analytically driven team, and his POA defense is special.

With all that said, if Devin Carter is lottery then it speaks to how bad the draft is because it is the equivalent of Davion Mitchell and Justice Winslow going lotto. It just doesn't make sense.


Why doesn't it make sense?

Davion Mitchell and Justice Winslow both went lotto (right around 9). In drafts that weren't considered weak.


They weren't drafted there with their current form as their ceiling/comp. I read it more as Devin Carter's comp is current Davion Mitchell and Justice Winslow which is pretty underwhelming for a lotter pick. My read of it may be wrong though.
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Post#470 » by Rapsfan07 » Tue Jun 4, 2024 6:13 pm

WuTang_OG wrote:This draft is weak with star talent, hence why the top 10 is more like starting from 8 in an average draft. At 19 and 31, the goal should just be to find contributors and role players that can fit our system and can grow with our young group. We will draft a big, that much im certain


Agreed. I'd be very shocked if we didn't leave with a big and I expect that player to be taken at #19 as there is a pretty big drop off in the quality of bigs available at #31. I think it'll come down the Ware or Holmes.

I'm more torn at #31. Right now I'm in between Simpson, Djurisic, Tyson and Mitchell.

Simpson has very similar numbers and similar game to Brunson, except he's more athletic. Mitchell's numbers are similar to J-Dub although he's not nearly as athletic or physically gifted. Djurisic and Tyson both have very eye catching games as well, while Djurisic seems to be smoother and a better passer.

I'd be more interested in acquiring an additional second round pick than a first at this point, depending on how the draft actually plays out.
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Post#471 » by BoyzNTheHood » Tue Jun 4, 2024 6:23 pm

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Post#473 » by WuTang_CMB » Tue Jun 4, 2024 6:24 pm

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WuTang_OG wrote:This draft is weak with star talent, hence why the top 10 is more like starting from 8 in an average draft. At 19 and 31, the goal should just be to find contributors and role players that can fit our system and can grow with our young group. We will draft a big, that much im certain


Agreed. I'd be very shocked if we didn't leave with a big and I expect that player to be taken at #19 as there is a pretty big drop off in the quality of bigs available at #31. I think it'll come down the Ware or Holmes.

I'm more torn at #31. Right now I'm in between Simpson, Djurisic, Tyson and Mitchell.

Simpson has very similar numbers and similar game to Brunson, except he's more athletic. Mitchell's numbers are similar to J-Dub although he's not nearly as athletic or physically gifted. Djurisic and Tyson both have very eye catching games as well, while Djurisic seems to be smoother and a better passer.

I'd be more interested in acquiring an additional second round pick than a first at this point, depending on how the draft actually plays out.


I wouldn't at all be shocked #31 is moved too with the layover now. More teams will call and bite. In a perfect world, we scoop another 25' FR pick. I actually think Bruce Brown would work well in Golden State but I really hate the Wiggins contract
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Post#474 » by WuTang_CMB » Tue Jun 4, 2024 6:33 pm

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Post#475 » by ArthurVandelay » Tue Jun 4, 2024 6:44 pm

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WuTang_OG wrote:This draft is weak with star talent, hence why the top 10 is more like starting from 8 in an average draft. At 19 and 31, the goal should just be to find contributors and role players that can fit our system and can grow with our young group. We will draft a big, that much im certain


Agreed. I'd be very shocked if we didn't leave with a big and I expect that player to be taken at #19 as there is a pretty big drop off in the quality of bigs available at #31. I think it'll come down the Ware or Holmes.

I'm more torn at #31. Right now I'm in between Simpson, Djurisic, Tyson and Mitchell.

Simpson has very similar numbers and similar game to Brunson, except he's more athletic. Mitchell's numbers are similar to J-Dub although he's not nearly as athletic or physically gifted. Djurisic and Tyson both have very eye catching games as well, while Djurisic seems to be smoother and a better passer.

I'd be more interested in acquiring an additional second round pick than a first at this point, depending on how the draft actually plays out.


I wouldn't at all be shocked #31 is moved too with the layover now. More teams will call and bite. In a perfect world, we scoop another 25' FR pick. I actually think Bruce Brown would work well in Golden State but I really hate the Wiggins contract


I don’t like Wiggins to Raptors. But he does fit well in Atlanta , Cleveland, and Sacramento imo. Could be some interesting multi team trades
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Post#476 » by OAKLEY_2 » Tue Jun 4, 2024 6:45 pm

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kind of funny considering the last page. I wouldn't hate it.



also shot 42% from 3

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I got Holmes at 19 and Tyson at 31 lol


Not a bad haul.


Holmes' stroke looks like KD. They both move awkwardly though despite KD being in the highest echelon of players for maybe a few more years.
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Post#477 » by WuTang_CMB » Tue Jun 4, 2024 6:50 pm

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I got Holmes at 19 and Tyson at 31 lol


Not a bad haul.


Holmes' stroke looks like KD. They both move awkwardly though despite KD being in the highest echelon of players for maybe a few more years.


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Post#478 » by Rapsfan07 » Tue Jun 4, 2024 6:55 pm

WuTang_OG wrote:
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WuTang_OG wrote:This draft is weak with star talent, hence why the top 10 is more like starting from 8 in an average draft. At 19 and 31, the goal should just be to find contributors and role players that can fit our system and can grow with our young group. We will draft a big, that much im certain


Agreed. I'd be very shocked if we didn't leave with a big and I expect that player to be taken at #19 as there is a pretty big drop off in the quality of bigs available at #31. I think it'll come down the Ware or Holmes.

I'm more torn at #31. Right now I'm in between Simpson, Djurisic, Tyson and Mitchell.

Simpson has very similar numbers and similar game to Brunson, except he's more athletic. Mitchell's numbers are similar to J-Dub although he's not nearly as athletic or physically gifted. Djurisic and Tyson both have very eye catching games as well, while Djurisic seems to be smoother and a better passer.

I'd be more interested in acquiring an additional second round pick than a first at this point, depending on how the draft actually plays out.


I wouldn't at all be shocked #31 is moved too with the layover now. More teams will call and bite. In a perfect world, we scoop another 25' FR pick. I actually think Bruce Brown would work well in Golden State but I really hate the Wiggins contract


Definitely wouldn't be moving off of #31 at all unless we're going to be offer the Knicks 2 firsts. I personally highly value that pick and it would likely take more than teams want to pay to get me to move it. IMO, there could still be a lot of quality players there. So for me, it's either we're moving up or we're not moving at all.

We can easily scoop another pick '25 using Brown to take on some long term money. I would prefer to trade with the Hawks as they have much more value to offer than the the Warriors do for taking on the same amount of money and years.
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Post#479 » by deeps6x » Tue Jun 4, 2024 7:22 pm

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Not surprised at all. It was a pipe dream that he'd fall to 19


I think it is Memphis. Obviously because of Anthony Carter working as a coach, but also he fits their approach, they could use a back-up PG for Ja and they are an analytically driven team, and his POA defense is special.

With all that said, if Devin Carter is lottery then it speaks to how bad the draft is because it is the equivalent of Davion Mitchell and Justice Winslow going lotto. It just doesn't make sense.

I think Memphis would make better use of Ware then Carter. But I don't see anyone talking about Ware going in the lottery, let alone as high as #9.
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