2024-25 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V1.0

[sidsid]

These rumors have us linked to everyone seen this the player in brackets will be the team he's traded to

Toronto trades

Chris Boucher (Portland)
Jakob Poeltl (Lakers)
Garrett Temple (cut)
Kelly Olynyk (Portland)
2026 Indy first (Portland)

Lakers trades

Rui (Portland) or Vanderbilt (Portland)
Gabe Vincent (Portland)
2031 1st (Portland)
Christian Wood (Toronto)
Cam Reddish (Portland)

Portland trades

Ayton (Toronto)
Sharpe (Toronto)
Robert Williams (Lakers)
Banton (cut)

The reasons they gave was Portland tanks for Flagg clears massive amounts of salary with Ayton plus two firsts. Talked about potential Boucher and Olynik moves for more assets. Toronto takes a swing with Ayton and gets Sharpe and tanks as well. Lakers get Poeltl and Williams fix their front court issues.

Follow up I seen Bruce Brown for Patrick Williams or in a bigger move for Ingram with extra(s) from Toronto.

It's honestly sooooooooo out of left field I think only LA would say yes. Portland probably hangs onto Sharpe and Toronto might say no because Ayton can't stay healthy but Sharpe it's a great project to have

Of course I absolutely hate that we're giving up the 2026 pick, essentially for Sharpe who needs to be payed soon, but can't say it isn't a Masai move.

Lakers are getting too much by ridding themselves of all their bad contracts without including Reaves. I still think adding Ochai to the Lakers and then adding a swap (protections added, yada yada) from them to Portland instead makes more sense.

[Thaddy]

Gradey isn't a good NBA player. He can't shoot, dribble, or play defense. I don't understand why so many Raptor fans are horned up about this guy. Best case scenario he's an average NBA player, worst case he's out of the league, realistically he's another Huerter.

I'm still assuming he can shoot. 87% from the line in his college and pro. Good rep and form. Huerter was pretty good a few years ago. Trade for a lotto protected first, paid about 150% of the MLE (so like 24M in next season's terms). You can have an above average bench with a shooter like that in your rotation, like Miami with Duncan Robinson, if you have stars who need some space and are good on D.

He's not a star, but a lot of good wing bench combos have looked like Gradey-Agbaji, with Grady hiding on D as much as possible.

Gradey has issues with NBA range in a similar, but not the same, way DeRozan did. If you remove the corners Gradeys 3pt shot looks even worse and would be under 30%. That's the same percentage as Barnes.

[HangTime]

How about 2 trades with the Suns to get around their trade restrictions.

1) RJ and Bruce for KD
2)Boucher and Davion for Nurkic

Add picks

Convert Battle, sign a "high-end" buyout player.

[RoteSchroder]

How about 2 trades with the Suns to get around their trade restrictions.

1) RJ and Bruce for KD
2)Boucher and Davion for Nurkic

Add picks

Convert Battle, sign a "high-end" buyout player.

RJ = 3 protected 1sts
Boucher = 1 lotto protected 1st
Davion = 1 lotto protected 1st
Taking on Nurkic = two protected 1sts

Brown = Durant, useless rental player

I don’t think the Suns have 7 1sts to give us

[Psubs]

Michael Porter Jr for Bruce Brown and Chris Boucher?

[Dalek]

Michael Porter Jr for Bruce Brown and Chris Boucher?

Mike Malone went on air and said they are not trading Michael Porter Jr. I just don't see that happening. My dream is still Boucher for for Dario Saric and DaRon Holmes.

[Dalek]

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I know Poeltl is playing great but getting back DeAndre Ayton is a decent gamble which at worst gets us a better tank position and gets us out of Poeltl's longer deal.

When motivated, Ayton is great. Look at him absolutely smoking the Suns last game. Jakob has no mid range game like this.

Darko motivating Ayton could be the missing piece for him, plus Scottie will love having Ayton to throw lobs to. He can be a 20-20 guy the way he can dominate the game, while I think Jakob is a good player for a playoff team that has everything and just needs a glue guy.

[canz55]

Cam Johnson seems like such an obvious move to help Scottie and it wouldn't take a lot to get him i.e. Pacers pick and a salary dump

[brownbobcat]

Cam Johnson seems like such an obvious move to help Scottie and it wouldn't take a lot to get him i.e. Pacers pick and a salary dump

Huh? It absolutely would take a lot to get Cam Johnson, he's one of the most sought after players on the trade market. Multiple FRPs

[brownbobcat]

Mavs are looking for players to help now and their GM is also clearly stupid.

Poeltl for Lively + filler

[WaltFrazier]

Robinson and Sims for Boucher and Ochai. No idea if this has any substance. How is it from Raptors perspective?

https://www.si.com/nba/knicks/news/new-york-knicks-trade-mitchell-robinson-raptors-compelling-proposal

[HangTime]

How about
Davion, Bruce, Boucher, 2025 Blazers 2nd rounder, 2026 Pacers 1st rounder
For
Ingram and Herb Jones

Pelicans get all expiring, and save $8.7 Million this year.

[dagger]

Gradey isn't a good NBA player. He can't shoot, dribble, or play defense. I don't understand why so many Raptor fans are horned up about this guy. Best case scenario he's an average NBA player, worst case he's out of the league, realistically he's another Huerter.

I'm still assuming he can shoot. 87% from the line in his college and pro. Good rep and form. Huerter was pretty good a few years ago. Trade for a lotto protected first, paid about 150% of the MLE (so like 24M in next season's terms). You can have an above average bench with a shooter like that in your rotation, like Miami with Duncan Robinson, if you have stars who need some space and are good on D.

He's not a star, but a lot of good wing bench combos have looked like Gradey-Agbaji, with Grady hiding on D as much as possible.

Gradey has issues with NBA range in a similar, but not the same, way DeRozan did. If you remove the corners Gradeys 3pt shot looks even worse and would be under 30%. That's the same percentage as Barnes.

In his second season in the league, DeRozan took only 52 three point shots and made 9.6%

[Thaddy]

I'm still assuming he can shoot. 87% from the line in his college and pro. Good rep and form. Huerter was pretty good a few years ago. Trade for a lotto protected first, paid about 150% of the MLE (so like 24M in next season's terms). You can have an above average bench with a shooter like that in your rotation, like Miami with Duncan Robinson, if you have stars who need some space and are good on D.

He's not a star, but a lot of good wing bench combos have looked like Gradey-Agbaji, with Grady hiding on D as much as possible.

Gradey has issues with NBA range in a similar, but not the same, way DeRozan did. If you remove the corners Gradeys 3pt shot looks even worse and would be under 30%. That's the same percentage as Barnes.

In his second season in the league, DeRozan took only 52 three point shots and made 9.6%

Whoosh.

It's a similarity, they aren't the same player. *facepalm*

[Ell Curry]

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I know Poeltl is playing great but getting back DeAndre Ayton is a decent gamble which at worst gets us a better tank position and gets us out of Poeltl's longer deal.

When motivated, Ayton is great. Look at him absolutely smoking the Suns last game. Jakob has no mid range game like this.

Darko motivating Ayton could be the missing piece for him, plus Scottie will love having Ayton to throw lobs to. He can be a 20-20 guy the way he can dominate the game, while I think Jakob is a good player for a playoff team that has everything and just needs a glue guy.

To me, Ayton is worth considering if you think he can turn his FT shooting and size/coordination into a Brook Lopez style 2nd half of his career where he stars hitting 3s and improves as a defender. I have no idea if that's likely or not, you'd have to do a deep dive on him and his game.

I do think we could have both him and Poeltl next year if we want. Olynyk + Brown out saves Portland 22M and we can probably still just about squeeze under the tax, just have to let Mitchell and Boucher go and not take back any money.

17.2M to pay our 2 rookies, Battle, Chomche and maybe a 15th guy. It's a good draft, so might as well grab an undrafted free agent and not a vet with less upside. Everyone else is locked up. If we pick 3rd or higher, no 15th guy if my math is right, just 2-way options. If we win the lotto or maybe get 2nd, we might have to shed a million or two but we've got Flagg or Harper/Bailey and it's no big deal.

Poeltl-Ayton-Chomche
Barnes-Mogbo-PDX2nd
Barrett-Agbaji-Battle
20251st-Dick-Walter
Quickley-Shead

Good news is it's low-risk. If it's not going well by the deadline, we have a massive expiring in Ayton to use in a trade if someone good is available. And if it is, maybe move Poeltl for something, draft a backup center with one of the 2026 1sts.

[Mr Swagtastic]

How about
Davion, Bruce, Boucher, 2025 Blazers 2nd rounder, 2026 Pacers 1st rounder
For
Ingram and Herb Jones

Pelicans get all expiring, and save $8.7 Million this year.

Not even close for New Orleans. Herb Jones isn't going. Davion, Brown and Boucher give them zero rebuilding pieces and New Orleans isn't a hot bed for free agents. The Pacers pick looks mid to late.

Toronto takes that and runs. Even if Ingram bolts it's still a good deal for Toronto

[Mr Swagtastic]

Toronto isn't moving Olynyk plus Bruce Brown for Ayton and paying him $35 million for the next 2 years to be Poeltls backup that's crazy

[tecumseh18]

Gradey has issues with NBA range in a similar, but not the same, way DeRozan did. If you remove the corners Gradeys 3pt shot looks even worse and would be under 30%. That's the same percentage as Barnes.

In his second season in the league, DeRozan took only 52 three point shots and made 9.6%

Whoosh.

It's a similarity, they aren't the same player. *facepalm*

dagger's point was that there's zero - ZERO - similarity between Gradey's shooting and and DeMar's at this stage of their respective careers. Which is what we're discussing here.

The defence is similar, but Gradey needs to develop strength. He attempts to take more charges. DeMar left that to Kyle.

[Thaddy]

In his second season in the league, DeRozan took only 52 three point shots and made 9.6%

Whoosh.

It's a similarity, they aren't the same player. *facepalm*

dagger's point was that there's zero - ZERO - similarity between Gradey's shooting and and DeMar's at this stage of their respective careers. Which is what we're discussing here.

The defence is similar, but Gradey needs to develop strength. He attempts to take more charges. DeMar left that to Kyle.

Gradey needs to develop basketball skills. Walter is better than him. There's no reason he should be starting.

[JRoy]

These rumors have us linked to everyone seen this the player in brackets will be the team he's traded to

Toronto trades

Chris Boucher (Portland)
Jakob Poeltl (Lakers)
Garrett Temple (cut)
Kelly Olynyk (Portland)
2026 Indy first (Portland)

Lakers trades

Rui (Portland) or Vanderbilt (Portland)
Gabe Vincent (Portland)
2031 1st (Portland)
Christian Wood (Toronto)
Cam Reddish (Portland)

Portland trades

Ayton (Toronto)
Sharpe (Toronto)
Robert Williams (Lakers)
Banton (cut)

The reasons they gave was Portland tanks for Flagg clears massive amounts of salary with Ayton plus two firsts. Talked about potential Boucher and Olynik moves for more assets. Toronto takes a swing with Ayton and gets Sharpe and tanks as well. Lakers get Poeltl and Williams fix their front court issues.

Follow up I seen Bruce Brown for Patrick Williams or in a bigger move for Ingram with extra(s) from Toronto.

It's honestly sooooooooo out of left field I think only LA would say yes. Portland probably hangs onto Sharpe and Toronto might say no because Ayton can't stay healthy but Sharpe it's a great project to have

Hardest of passes for POR.

Ayton needs to be moved, not giving up on Sharpe for this return.