WT: Giannis Antetokounmpo's Future With Bucks 'The Elephant In The Room' In NBA

[JB7]

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I can see interest from both Texas teams, I just don't know that Texas is where Giannis will want to end up. SAS are still in building mode, and with Wemby going down with the blood clot issue, does Giannis risk joining a team with a massive injury risk? In terms of Houston, while they have a lot of good players, they are lacking in stars, and they definitely don't have anything in the backcourt that would excite Giannis.

Like the Dame trade, Giannis is going to be looking for a team with a star backcourt player to support him.

[YogurtProducer]

vassell was bad this year

Irrelevant when he’d be a 4/5th option if Giannis comes on board.

No im saying he shouldnt be more than 4/5th option on any teams given his play this year. Hes overpaid for his production. He shouldn't be the reason you're envious of the spurs

Yeah he is envious that the Spurs have a 16/4/3 55TS% guy as their 4th option..?

By that logic he should be overjoyed by our 4th option in IQ who put up 17/4/6 on 57TS% in 28mpg.

Gotta be honest - the Spurs would still be horrible if they did not win the Wemby lottery. They have a very mediocre group of players post-rebuild here

[Pointgod]

vassell was bad this year

Irrelevant when he’d be a 4/5th option if Giannis comes on board.

No im saying he shouldnt be more than 4/5th option on any teams given his play this year. Hes overpaid for his production. He shouldn't be the reason you're envious of the spurs

Devin Vassell is a 19,5,3 and 2 steals player per 36 minutes. He put up 20 a games last season on the Spurs. Having him as a 4th option while defenses focus on Giannis, Wemby and Fox is a great position to be in. I remember when people on this board **** on the Derrick White to Boston trade claiming that White wasn’t a difference maker.

Vassell isn’t the reason I’m envious of the Spurs, it’s the fact that they put themselves in a position to get an all time great while having another allstar and an all time great on the roster without killing their supporting depth.

[Pointgod]

Irrelevant when he’d be a 4/5th option if Giannis comes on board.

No im saying he shouldnt be more than 4/5th option on any teams given his play this year. Hes overpaid for his production. He shouldn't be the reason you're envious of the spurs

Yeah he is envious that the Spurs have a 16/4/3 55TS% guy as their 4th option..?

By that logic he should be overjoyed by our 4th option in IQ who put up 17/4/6 on 57TS% in 28mpg.

Gotta be honest - the Spurs would still be horrible if they did not win the Wemby lottery. They have a very mediocre group of players post-rebuild here

Even if they didn’t win the Wemby lottery the Spurs still had the assets to bring in D’Aaron Fox for nothing and be one of the top contenders for Giannis. They got Wemby so none of this matters anyways.

[Clay Davis]

Do you guys think that Giannis would enjoy Brampton, Ontario? I think it accords with his rizz.

[tsherkin]

Do you guys think that Giannis would enjoy Brampton, Ontario? I think it accords with his rizz.

Can I have that in Old Man so I can try to answer? xD

[Clay Davis]

Do you guys think that Giannis would enjoy Brampton, Ontario? I think it accords with his rizz.

Can I have that in Old Man so I can try to answer? xD

I am sorry brother I try to make my posts as accessible as possible but I have to stand on rizz...

[tsherkin]

Do you guys think that Giannis would enjoy Brampton, Ontario? I think it accords with his rizz.

Can I have that in Old Man so I can try to answer? xD

I am sorry brother I try to make my posts as accessible as possible but I have to stand on rizz...

[Merit]

Yeah I thought that too, but if they choose to move sengun in a trade for Giannis and also get KD - they move their chips in for a chip.

Maybe. They've barely got anything now, so they'd be praying that they could get Giannis AND the kind of help Giannis doesn't have in Milwaukee, all based on what they have now. Which doesn't really seem feasible to me.

Yeah I hear you. It’s the same reasoning I have for proposing trades that are identified as “homer”. Can’t gut the team and bring in Giannis because it defeats the purpose. However, the Rockets definitely have the assets to get KD and Giannis because of their pick situation. What’s going to make it complicated is Jalen Green’s poison pill contract and Sengun’s extension. I’m not sure how to factor that perfectly in terms of salary - as we would have to wait until the season ends to make things happen. Side note: Brooklyn has enough assets for Giannis too.

[tsherkin]

Yeah I hear you. It’s the same reasoning I have for proposing trades that are identified as “homer”. Can’t gut the team and bring in Giannis because it defeats the purpose. However, the Rockets definitely have the assets to get KD and Giannis because of their pick situation. What’s going to make it complicated is Jalen Green’s poison pill contract and Sengun’s extension. I’m not sure how to factor that perfectly in terms of salary - as we would have to wait until the season ends to make things happen. Side note: Brooklyn has enough assets for Giannis too.

Yeah, exactly. He needs a reason to stay because the environment is BETTER than what he has in Milwaukee. Otherwise, it's just shuffling deck chairs on the Titanic for him.

KD and Giannis would be interesting, I guess. I think he'd be better off next to someone who is more of a playmaker than just a play finisher like KD, though.

[Merit]

Can I have that in Old Man so I can try to answer? xD

I am sorry brother I try to make my posts as accessible as possible but I have to stand on rizz...

Do you think Giannis would like Brampton? He seems to be cool with multicultural folks. He’s got an open mind and charisma like that.

I’m sorry for my choice not to paraphrase my language for you, but I have to “stand on business” aka stay true to my character.

[Merit]

Yeah I hear you. It’s the same reasoning I have for proposing trades that are identified as “homer”. Can’t gut the team and bring in Giannis because it defeats the purpose. However, the Rockets definitely have the assets to get KD and Giannis because of their pick situation. What’s going to make it complicated is Jalen Green’s poison pill contract and Sengun’s extension. I’m not sure how to factor that perfectly in terms of salary - as we would have to wait until the season ends to make things happen. Side note: Brooklyn has enough assets for Giannis too.[/quote ]

Yeah, exactly. He needs a reason to stay because the environment is BETTER than what he has in Milwaukee. Otherwise, it's just shuffling deck chairs on the Titanic for him.

KD and Giannis would be interesting, I guess. I think he'd be better off next to someone who is more of a playmaker than just a play finisher like KD, though.

Fred? and one of the Thompson brothers. He’d also have their deep bench so guys like Cam Whitmore and Tari Eason. Reed is needed to match salary. Same with Brooks.

[tsherkin]

Do you think Giannis would like Brampton? He seems to be cool with multicultural folks. He’s got an open mind and charisma like that.

I’m sorry for my choice not to paraphrase my language for you, but I have to “stand on business” aka stay true to my character.

Thanks for that xD

I don't see why Giannis wouldn't like Brampton. I just don't know why he'd choose to come here over anywhere else, particularly if he's looking to contend.

Fred? and one of the Thompson brothers. He’d also have their deep bench so guys like Cam Whitmore. Reed is needed to match salary. Same with Brooks.

Blech, no. I am not an FVV fan. They need a real perimeter star next to Giannis.

[Merit]

Do you think Giannis would like Brampton? He seems to be cool with multicultural folks. He’s got an open mind and charisma like that.

I’m sorry for my choice not to paraphrase my language for you, but I have to “stand on business” aka stay true to my character.

Thanks for that xD

I don't see why Giannis wouldn't like Brampton. I just don't know why he'd choose to come here over anywhere else, particularly if he's looking to contend.

Fred? and one of the Thompson brothers. He’d also have their deep bench so guys like Cam Whitmore. Reed is needed to match salary. Same with Brooks.

Blech, no. I am not an FVV fan. They need a real perimeter star next to Giannis.

I agree that Fred is not the playmaker Trae is, but he is an excellent catch and shoot player and he’s gonna get mad buckets beside KD and Giannis.

A starting 5 of FVV/Amen/Eason/KD/Giannis is a bit light on 3 point shooting, but solid otherwise. I debated including Whitmore in the starting 5, and Houston is going to need every single depth late-career vet available, but it seems plausible that could happen in a zero tax state.

[tsherkin]

I agree that Fred is not the playmaker Trae is, but he is an excellent catch and shoot player and he’s gonna get mad buckets beside KD and Giannis.

"Excellent" is probably pushing it, but yes, he's generally a good 3pt shooter. Mostly useless inside the arc. Not a worthwhile focal scoring threat, provides little rim pressure. He's a nice 6th man, more than anything else.

A starting 5 of FVV/Amen/Eason/KD/Giannis is a bit light on 3 point shooting, but solid otherwise.

Not likely to win a title, though. Durant is going to be 37 next year. He's not a hot playmaker and is mostly an iso guy. A very, very efficient guy, but his raw offensive impact is well down from his hey-day. Giannis needs a creator, someone who is properly good at stirring the D and feeding others.

If he could find his way to, say, Indiana somehow, now THAT would be truly intriguing.

[Merit]

Spurs have that new shiny ROY to offer up.

I know his wife went to university in Houston, and is from California. Coupled with the fact they are awesome places to live (keep in mind she is American) and nothing will dissuade me from thinking those teams have the inside track (Cali and TX teams).

I’d include Brooklyn as well. Cali and Texas and Miami/Orlando are always locations people want to play because of the weather and tax situation. However, I don’t think that the LA teams have the assets right now. Same with Dallas.

Orlando is a team I hadn’t considered, but they could put together a solid offer for Giannis too.

You’re right though - cali/texas almost always have an advantage, but fortunately don’t always get the player!

[Merit]

I agree that Fred is not the playmaker Trae is, but he is an excellent catch and shoot player and he’s gonna get mad buckets beside KD and Giannis.

"Excellent" is probably pushing it, but yes, he's generally a good 3pt shooter. Mostly useless inside the arc. Not a worthwhile focal scoring threat, provides little rim pressure. He's a nice 6th man, more than anything else.

A starting 5 of FVV/Amen/Eason/KD/Giannis is a bit light on 3 point shooting, but solid otherwise.

Not likely to win a title, though. Durant is going to be 37 next year. He's not a hot playmaker and is mostly an iso guy. A very, very efficient guy, but his raw offensive impact is well down from his hey-day. Giannis needs a creator, someone who is properly good at stirring the D and feeding others.

If he could find his way to, say, Indiana somehow, now THAT would be truly intriguing.

Nahhh, I stand by excellent. My thoughts about Houston are that their youth can pick up the slack and while Giannis and KD are declining, they’d be improving. Houston can provide enough pick value to be competitive in any trade for a star this offseason.

[tsherkin]

Nahhh, I stand by excellent.

He's like a 37% shooter on C+S 3s this year. He isn't even top-30 in the league among guys with 40+ GP, 30+ mpg and 3+ C+S 3PA/g.

That's not excellent. That's solid.

My thoughts about Houston are that their youth can pick up the slack and while Giannis and KD are declining, they’d be improving. Houston can provide enough pick value to be competitive in any trade for a star this offseason.

It depends heavily on the package required to actually get Giannis, and who else is actually available. And who wants what Houston has left over, really.

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No im saying he shouldnt be more than 4/5th option on any teams given his play this year. Hes overpaid for his production. He shouldn't be the reason you're envious of the spurs

Yeah he is envious that the Spurs have a 16/4/3 55TS% guy as their 4th option..?

By that logic he should be overjoyed by our 4th option in IQ who put up 17/4/6 on 57TS% in 28mpg.

Gotta be honest - the Spurs would still be horrible if they did not win the Wemby lottery. They have a very mediocre group of players post-rebuild here

Even if they didn’t win the Wemby lottery the Spurs still had the assets to bring in D’Aaron Fox for nothing and be one of the top contenders for Giannis. They got Wemby so none of this matters anyways.

without Wemby IDK if Fox/Castle/Vassell is very intriguing lol Especially if they got say Scoot instead of Wemby.

And if they dont get Wemby they dont go get Fox either.