Thank Nation! Pre-Lottery: Denver 9th, NY pick 7th (PART 4)

[CoachJReturns]

Some Rabb highlights. He has some very nice footwork and finishes well with either hand. He's just a very fundamentally sound player for someone so young. Him and Davis are polar opposites. Davis makes all these huge highlights and Rabb is like the quiet workhorse. I'd be happy with either.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fAllJbEv3lk

[BoyzNTheHood]

As much as we're bantering back and forth about who we all individually hope to pick, it's fairly likely that we'll come out with a good piece. Just add another player to this 50+ win roster. The difference between Colangelo's content-with-mediocrity attitude and Masai's forward-thinking mindset is real.

[canzano55]

I'm in the camp of wanting to package the pick for another NBA vet but if the organization is set on re-signing Demar then I suppose its would be preferable to keep the pick.

Either way we're in an excellent situation because I trust Masai in both scenarios.

[Patman]

long list of sorry PF's on draft express at the op of the lottery(draft express). Might have to go with a perimeter player.

This. There are some wings in the draft available at where we'll be picking, who could end up better than Ross (after a couple of seasons). Most of the PF's that would be available to us are likely not going to be any better than Patterson.

[OAKLEY_2]

I like Rabb way more then say a guy like bobby portis who everyone wanted. Rabb could start for us next year with a good summer of progressing. I mean we started Scola the majority of the year and we won 54 games. Yes scola started hitting the 3 more this year but that's basically all he did after the 1st month n a half. Rabb would be a better team defender/ rim protector right away. It also keeps Patterson as backup PF where we need him.

I think expecting Rabb to start, or even be a regular rotation guy as a rookie is possibly setting the bar too high. He is currently 215 pounds. That's rail thin. Sure he can probably get up to 220 or a little more before the start of the year, but he needs a lot of strength before he's ready to start. He got pushed around regularly in college with other kids. Grown men will just beat up on him.
But hypothetically if he did start for a playoff team by the end of his rookie year, we would have basically struck gold and everyone should be expecting a future all-star at that point.

And then there is the Casey factor. Bench meet butt meet 905. Suppose if we picked Luwawu he could still play one more year in Serbia. Ditto for Hernangomez in Spain if we picked him. Luwawu is 20 and Hernangomez is 20... Still like Brice Johnson with the second selection.

[Badonkadonk]

I like Rabb way more then say a guy like bobby portis who everyone wanted. Rabb could start for us next year with a good summer of progressing. I mean we started Scola the majority of the year and we won 54 games. Yes scola started hitting the 3 more this year but that's basically all he did after the 1st month n a half. Rabb would be a better team defender/ rim protector right away. It also keeps Patterson as backup PF where we need him.

I think expecting Rabb to start, or even be a regular rotation guy as a rookie is possibly setting the bar too high. He is currently 215 pounds. That's rail thin. Sure he can probably get up to 220 or a little more before the start of the year, but he needs a lot of strength before he's ready to start. He got pushed around regularly in college with other kids. Grown men will just beat up on him.
But hypothetically if he did start for a playoff team by the end of his rookie year, we would have basically struck gold and everyone should be expecting a future all-star at that point.

And then there is the Casey factor. Bench meet butt meet 905. Suppose if we picked Luwawu he could still play one more year in Serbia. Ditto for Hernangomez in Spain if we picked him. Luwawu is 20 and Hernangomez is 20... Still like Brice Johnson with the second selection.

Casey will absolutely play rookies who fit his mold - tough, defense-first, high-motor players who can defend NOW and be patient with their offense. Powell has proven that.

[CoachJReturns]

long list of sorry PF's on draft express at the op of the lottery(draft express). Might have to go with a perimeter player.

This. There are some wings in the draft available at where we'll be picking, who could end up better than Ross (after a couple of seasons). Most of the PF's that would be available to us are likely not going to be any better than Patterson.

Powell is already as good as Ross. Ross is as good as gone. Lol.

[mad-man]

Some Rabb highlights. He has some very nice footwork and finishes well with either hand. He's just a very fundamentally sound player for someone so young. Him and Davis are polar opposites. Davis makes all these huge highlights and Rabb is like the quiet workhorse. I'd be happy with either.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fAllJbEv3lk

A few poster have made Bosh comparisons, dont see those at all. In that video, no >mid range shots, no dribble... how is he anything like Bosh? Best comparison is Ed Davis and there's no room for 4's like that anymore.

[mad-man]

long list of sorry PF's on draft express at the op of the lottery(draft express). Might have to go with a perimeter player.

This. There are some wings in the draft available at where we'll be picking, who could end up better than Ross (after a couple of seasons). Most of the PF's that would be available to us are likely not going to be any better than Patterson.

Powell is already as good as Ross. Ross is as good as gone. Lol.

IMO Ross has shown more consistency to close the season. He's hitting 3s and those quick curls at a pretty high clip. Id rather have a low usage player like that paired with Powell than Demar + Ross/Powell at a fraction of the cost.

[CoachJReturns]

I think expecting Rabb to start, or even be a regular rotation guy as a rookie is possibly setting the bar too high. He is currently 215 pounds. That's rail thin. Sure he can probably get up to 220 or a little more before the start of the year, but he needs a lot of strength before he's ready to start. He got pushed around regularly in college with other kids. Grown men will just beat up on him.
But hypothetically if he did start for a playoff team by the end of his rookie year, we would have basically struck gold and everyone should be expecting a future all-star at that point.

And then there is the Casey factor. Bench meet butt meet 905. Suppose if we picked Luwawu he could still play one more year in Serbia. Ditto for Hernangomez in Spain if we picked him. Luwawu is 20 and Hernangomez is 20... Still like Brice Johnson with the second selection.

Casey will absolutely play rookies who fit his mold - tough, defense-first, high-motor players who can defend NOW and be patient with their offense. Powell has proven that.

Completely agree. I have been very critical of Casey, but he's made it very clear what he asks of players. If someone wants to crack the rotation they need to get after it on defense and pick their spots on offense. I'm hoping Bruno is the next to pick up on this. Block shots, rebound and take only good shots. Either drive on open lanes or shoot open 3s from the wing and corner.
If everyone played as hard defensively as Powell while taking good shots we would indeed start to resemble those Pistons teams some people have brought up in the past. That's when we win the East. Not when 1 or two guys play intense defense, but every single damn player on the floor for those full 48 minutes. I no longrr have any problem with how Casey is handling the young guys.

[CoachJReturns]

Some Rabb highlights. He has some very nice footwork and finishes well with either hand. He's just a very fundamentally sound player for someone so young. Him and Davis are polar opposites. Davis makes all these huge highlights and Rabb is like the quiet workhorse. I'd be happy with either.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fAllJbEv3lk

A few poster have made Bosh comparisons, dont see those at all. In that video, no >mid range shots, no dribble... how is he anything like Bosh? Best comparison is Ed Davis and there's no room for 4's like that anymore.

Lol. Watch some more film of him. He has a much better shot than Davis, but for some reason the guy who made these videos didn't show Rabb shooting a single jumper. He has a developing mid range game. I'm sure you wouldn't base everything off of a single video of a prospect would you?

[Kevin Willis]

Some Rabb highlights. He has some very nice footwork and finishes well with either hand. He's just a very fundamentally sound player for someone so young. Him and Davis are polar opposites. Davis makes all these huge highlights and Rabb is like the quiet workhorse. I'd be happy with either.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fAllJbEv3lk

Here are Davis highlights. He is not as polished offensively as Rabb but he's defensively solid for someone so young. Davis has more bounce too. I think Rabb is a better prospect but Davis is still legitimate with a blue collar game.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pw_bc95O2c&nohtml5=False

[Mark_83]

I think expecting Rabb to start, or even be a regular rotation guy as a rookie is possibly setting the bar too high. He is currently 215 pounds. That's rail thin. Sure he can probably get up to 220 or a little more before the start of the year, but he needs a lot of strength before he's ready to start. He got pushed around regularly in college with other kids. Grown men will just beat up on him.
But hypothetically if he did start for a playoff team by the end of his rookie year, we would have basically struck gold and everyone should be expecting a future all-star at that point.

And then there is the Casey factor. Bench meet butt meet 905. Suppose if we picked Luwawu he could still play one more year in Serbia. Ditto for Hernangomez in Spain if we picked him. Luwawu is 20 and Hernangomez is 20... Still like Brice Johnson with the second selection.

Casey will absolutely play rookies who fit his mold - tough, defense-first, high-motor players who can defend NOW and be patient with their offense. Powell has proven that.

Not saying he should be the pick, but Prince seems to be the guy that most fits that description. He could be an excellent 3 + D, and has the length, strength, and toughness to play some small ball 4 like JJ.

[BoyzNTheHood]

Some Rabb highlights. He has some very nice footwork and finishes well with either hand. He's just a very fundamentally sound player for someone so young. Him and Davis are polar opposites. Davis makes all these huge highlights and Rabb is like the quiet workhorse. I'd be happy with either.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fAllJbEv3lk

Here are Davis highlights. He is not as polished offensively as Rabb but he's defensively solid for someone so young. Davis has more bounce too. I think Rabb is a better prospect but Davis is still legitimate with a blue collar game.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pw_bc95O2c&nohtml5=False

I honestly wouldn't mind taking either of these two. I'd say Rabb has the higher floor, and Davis has the higher ceiling.

I'm probably in the minority, but I'd still take Skal over both of them.

[YouTube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RF_cWYmUZVw&nohtml5=False[/YouTube]

[Kevin Willis]

Some Rabb highlights. He has some very nice footwork and finishes well with either hand. He's just a very fundamentally sound player for someone so young. Him and Davis are polar opposites. Davis makes all these huge highlights and Rabb is like the quiet workhorse. I'd be happy with either.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fAllJbEv3lk

A few poster have made Bosh comparisons, dont see those at all. In that video, no >mid range shots, no dribble... how is he anything like Bosh? Best comparison is Ed Davis and there's no room for 4's like that anymore.

He has a similar game to Bosh or an Ed Davis with range. He is skilled offensively with solid fundamentals. He will be fine in this NBA.

[Kevin Willis]

Skal was supposed to be a candidate for a No. 1 pick and then he didn't play well. He reminds me of Drummond but Drummond didn't play with great teammates like Skal did. I mean he could be great in the NBA like Drummond but Drummond was a manchild. Skal has to grow into his body and also grow his game. Which means he's just not going to be ready for awhile. This might not be the right team for him.

[Omzz]

Tomorrow is a crucial day

Also skal isn't good to be picked that high

[mad-man]

Some Rabb highlights. He has some very nice footwork and finishes well with either hand. He's just a very fundamentally sound player for someone so young. Him and Davis are polar opposites. Davis makes all these huge highlights and Rabb is like the quiet workhorse. I'd be happy with either.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fAllJbEv3lk

A few poster have made Bosh comparisons, dont see those at all. In that video, no >mid range shots, no dribble... how is he anything like Bosh? Best comparison is Ed Davis and there's no room for 4's like that anymore.

Lol. Watch some more film of him. He has a much better shot than Davis, but for some reason the guy who made these videos didn't show Rabb shooting a single jumper. He has a developing mid range game. I'm sure you wouldn't base everything off of a single video of a prospect would you?

Ive seen his DX profile and several videos and have not seen anything to support otherwise. Did he even attempt a 3 in college?

[Gold Dragon]

Deyonta Davis would definitely be a good fit for the Raps system and would be very valuable if Biyombo does not resign. I just feel that Brice is a very similar player with lower ceiling who might be available at #26 in the draft and the wings available at the DEN/NYK pick have more upside.

[super_balls]

Some Rabb highlights. He has some very nice footwork and finishes well with either hand. He's just a very fundamentally sound player for someone so young. Him and Davis are polar opposites. Davis makes all these huge highlights and Rabb is like the quiet workhorse. I'd be happy with either.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fAllJbEv3lk

Here are Davis highlights. He is not as polished offensively as Rabb but he's defensively solid for someone so young. Davis has more bounce too. I think Rabb is a better prospect but Davis is still legitimate with a blue collar game.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pw_bc95O2c&nohtml5=False

I honestly wouldn't mind taking either of these two. I'd say Rabb has the higher floor, and Davis has the higher ceiling.

I'm probably in the minority, but I'd still take Skal over both of them.

[YouTube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RF_cWYmUZVw&nohtml5=False[/YouTube]

I agree, it's hard to pass up on a someone who is as talented as Skal. Compliments JV so well.

My draft board in our range:
1) If one of Hield, Bender, Brown or Murray drop (draft one of them and run)
2) Skal
3) Rabb
4) Luwawu