Damian Lillard Trade Request Part 3

[Raps Militia]

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it’s Grange so…this gotta be the confirmation that TOR got Dame, right??

Grange is like Smith, he doesn't have the slightest source, nothing. Whatever he may say, whether positive or negative, can't be taken into consideration.
Spears, Stein, Woj, they are all of the same opinion, in my opinion we are here, the odds are still fluctuating, let's see.

I believe, rightly, that the Blazers will accept the best offer, which is ours. And I also believe that Lillard will have no problem playing and winning for and with us.

[Los_29]

Masai can't keep waiting on the sidelines to jump into the double dutch game.

There likely won't be a better opportunity to add a top 10-15 player for this low of a price.

We hear that every year. Since Kawhi, there have been plenty of opportunities for teams to acquire excellent players.

[HumbleRen]

Bam/Mitchell is a solid core, but those guys are #2/#3 guys on a championship level team and you'd still lack a #1 which will be very difficult to acquire without cap space or big trade chips.

I think you need to maximize Butler's window and Lillard does this the best. MIA is probably the favorite in the East with Lillard. I'd try to win now while it's wide open and if doesn't work out, move out Butler's, Lillard's big deals, create cap space and go after the best FAs.

People didn't believe Jimmy could be a #1 option. The Heat did.

I'm not disagreeing or agreeing with you, I'm just simply giving my take on why Heat haven't been as desperate as they should be in regards to Dame.

MIA can afford to be patient because they're MIA but for me this is kinda of a too good to be true type deal for them to pass on, much like the Raps with Kawhi.

They basically get to keep the core that got them to the finals and add Dame to that.

Possibly. Maybe they know something that we don’t.

Perhaps the Toronto talk is just simply smoke and they aren’t really that stressed.

[KP730]

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it’s Grange so…this gotta be the confirmation that TOR got Dame, right??

Grange is like Smith, he doesn't have the slightest source, nothing. Whatever he may say, whether positive or negative, can't be taken into consideration.
Spears, Stein, Woj, they are all of the same opinion, in my opinion we are here, the odds are still fluctuating, let's see.

I believe, rightly, that the Blazers will accept the best offer, which is ours. And I also believe that Lillard will have no problem playing and winning for and with us.

it’s a tradition for Grange to post something and the opposite thing happens

I’d almost feel uncomfortable if Grange was saying the deal to TOR is happening….like, something gotta be off about that!

[PhilBlackson]

I know he's younger, but I'd much rather have Lillard given their current window. Butler's already 34 and their window of contention is only as long as Butler's continued greatness which might be only a season or two more.

Sure but Donavan gives them the bridge in a post Jimmy Butler world. Mitchell and Bam can be a foundation for a playoff team for the next several years. They're both practically the same age too.

Jimmy and Dame are entering the wrong side of 30 now. Would they love to have Dame ? Of course but is it the end all be all for the Heat ? I don't believe so.

Bam/Mitchell is a solid core, but those guys are #2/#3 guys on a championship level team and you'd still lack a #1 which will be very difficult to acquire without cap space or big trade chips.

I think you need to maximize Butler's window and Lillard does this the best. MIA is probably the favorite in the East with Lillard. I'd try to win now while it's wide open and if doesn't work out, move out Butler's, Lillard's big deals, create cap space and go after the best FAs.

I get that as a franchise, no in general MIA doesn't have to panic that they won't get stars in the future.

BUT opportunity is a HUGE thing in sports as we know firsthand with Kawhi, Miami's window is RIGHT NOW.

Plus why would MIA just assume they'll get Mitchell?! The dually ironic thing about that is A) Donovan tried to push his to NY, ended up in CLE B) Dame tried to push his way there, ends up in TOR. They can't just bank on winning the next trade with bad assets or free agency when players may have their own plans. You're talking about Mitchell but he's was long rumoured to go HOME to NY, not MIA so even in FA but especially if MIA misses on Dame, what would make MIA so appealing by the time DM is a FA?! MIA will trend downwards as Jimmy ages & NYK is actually by small increments improving. There's absolutely no guarantee he goes there especially when who's to say he doesn't speak with Embiid to go team up when they're FAs somewhere or whatever other star player he may get along with. There's way too many variables to just ASSUME you'll get another star.

But the other thing is let's be real, THE biggest reason for MIA's recent success JIMMY BUTLER (period), not Bam - Himmy. Without Jimmy going God Mode, the Heat are just a bunch of roleplayers. You could trade Bam for another defensive C & Miami would be a fairly similar result, his impact is very role specific. You couldn't trade Butler for just any wing & expect a similar outcome. Miami is scary BECAUSE of the Dame + Jimmy duo surrounded by great roleplayers that buy in, not Dame + Bam plus roleplayers.

So really at the CORE of why Miami could win is a Dame + Jimmy duo, Jimmy is THE biggest reason MIA has had the success it has & it's wanting to capitalize on that & add to THAT, that MIA needs to build on to get over the hump. If the goal is just being a franchise that can attract another star, no MIA doesn't have anything to worry about -- if MIA wants to capitalize on the opportunity they have as a result of having Jimmy Butler, yes they NEED to get Dame right now. Jimmy has already broken down physically several times, there's only probably a year or two to strike. They can't wait on Mitchell & Bam is not the difference maker.

[mintsa]

On my way to breakfast. Keep you fellas posted!

He stay, he come

Was that you back in June 2019 ??

[M3tro]

Masai can't keep waiting on the sidelines to jump into the double dutch game.

There likely won't be a better opportunity to add a top 10-15 player for this low of a price.

We hear that every year. Since Kawhi, there have been plenty of opportunities for teams to acquire excellent players.

They usually cost a boatload of picks though plus pieces.

The last "cheap" deal was Kawhi in 2018.

[goinrogue]

grange has zero sources. My guess is he probably heard about the Dame video posted last night or saw it, and then tweeted this for attention.

Also for anyone not aware, BDE is a well known troll. He got caught in a lie once and admitted he’s not connected, he’s just having fun. I’m unsure why the mods don’t ban him. Maybe he knows one of them.

[ATLTimekeeper]

Riley doesn't have time to wait. He looks like he lost his grandkids in a public park these days. The league/Vegas anticipate his bluff will be called and he will increase his offer to Portland, which Portland is holding out for. The Raptors appear to have an interest in the market for Dame. This is a huge distinction. They want to take advantage of Miami fixing the market, and capitalize on Portland's frustration of that or Miami's own stubbornness.

[Los_29]

Masai can't keep waiting on the sidelines to jump into the double dutch game.

There likely won't be a better opportunity to add a top 10-15 player for this low of a price.

We hear that every year. Since Kawhi, there have been plenty of opportunities for teams to acquire excellent players.

They usually cost a boatload of picks though plus pieces.

The last "cheap" deal was Kawhi in 2018.

I’m not sure we will be seeing those kinds of deals anymore unless it’s for a young, top 10 player. Atlanta, Cleveland and Minnesota all got bounced in the first round.

[Jadoogar]

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it’s Grange so…this gotta be the confirmation that TOR got Dame, right??

Grange is like Smith, he doesn't have the slightest source, nothing. Whatever he may say, whether positive or negative, can't be taken into consideration.
Spears, Stein, Woj, they are all of the same opinion, in my opinion we are here, the odds are still fluctuating, let's see.

I believe, rightly, that the Blazers will accept the best offer, which is ours. And I also believe that Lillard will have no problem playing and winning for and with us.

I don't trust Grange either but superstars tend to get what they want. I think Miami is still the frontrunner.

[Jadoogar]

Lillard and Siakam is enough to be a playoff team. Adding in a break out player like Barnes and we're looking at a contender. I think Siakam is better than 2019 Lowry, and Lillard could match Kawhi. Then the rest of the cast is great from Poeltl, Schroder, Trent, and OPJ. We have a lot of players that could be strong contributors to a championship run.

No Lillard cannot be Kawhi.

Kawhi literally took over the game at both ends of the floor. Most impressive is when he decided to take over game 6 vs Milwaukee, and punished them at both ends topping it off with a massive dunk and crown over Giannis. Lillard could NEVER do that.

Lillard is not Kawhi, 100% agree.

But this shouldn't be the mindset. The Kawhi trade was the perfect stars aligned situation. That kind of situation is unlikely to ever happen again. Star players are never traded for a price that low.

Will Lou had a great analogy, if you ate at a 3 michelin star restaurant and had the best meal of your life, would you never eat at another restaurant again because nothing else will compare to that meal?

[Zeno]

Any cans confirming Grange’s sauces yet?

[goinrogue]

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it’s Grange so…this gotta be the confirmation that TOR got Dame, right??

Grange is like Smith, he doesn't have the slightest source, nothing. Whatever he may say, whether positive or negative, can't be taken into consideration.
Spears, Stein, Woj, they are all of the same opinion, in my opinion we are here, the odds are still fluctuating, let's see.

I believe, rightly, that the Blazers will accept the best offer, which is ours. And I also believe that Lillard will have no problem playing and winning for and with us.

I don't trust Grange either but superstars tend to get what they want. I think Miami is still the frontrunner.

It’s a good guess and I wouldn’t care cause I don’t think trading for him is a good idea anyway. But it’s a guess. Grange knows nothing. Sources were telling him we were getting Suggs 100% right before we drafted Barnes. I would bet money he watched the dame hat tipping video.

[canz55]

Riley doesn't have time to wait. He looks like he lost his grandkids in a public park these days. The league/Vegas anticipate his bluff will be called and he will increase his offer to Portland, which Portland is holding out for. The Raptors appear to have an interest in the market for Dame. This is a huge distinction. They want to take advantage of Miami fixing the market, and capitalize on Portland's frustration of that or Miami's own stubbornness.

Miami doesn't have anything else to give.

Masai actually wants Dame, which blows my mind if I'm being honest.

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[LBJKB24MJ23]

Any cans confirming Grange’s sauces yet?

I don’t think Grange can confirm Granges sauces

[GM89]

I don't trust Grange either but superstars tend to get what they want. I think Miami is still the frontrunner.

Only if their preferred team has the assets to trade for them ala Durant to Phoenix and Davis to LA. Otherwise you get Kawhi to Toronto

Portland FO is thinking what's best for their team and all this appeasing Dame to his preferred location is just media posturing. It's a simple business decision, if the Miami offer is poop and Toronto ends up with the best one then Dame will be a Rap.

[LBJKB24MJ23]

Riley doesn't have time to wait. He looks like he lost his grandkids in a public park these days. The league/Vegas anticipate his bluff will be called and he will increase his offer to Portland, which Portland is holding out for. The Raptors appear to have an interest in the market for Dame. This is a huge distinction. They want to take advantage of Miami fixing the market, and capitalize on Portland's frustration of that or Miami's own stubbornness.

Miami doesn't have anything else to give.

Masai actually wants Dame, which blows my mind if I'm being honest.

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Again, it’s not known if Masai REALLY wants Lillard or just driving up the cost for Miami, who is a rival for Toronto and a rival executive to Masai at the end of day.

And it’s not known Miami really wants Lillard that bad either.

[MiamiSPX]

Riley doesn't have time to wait. He looks like he lost his grandkids in a public park these days. The league/Vegas anticipate his bluff will be called and he will increase his offer to Portland, which Portland is holding out for. The Raptors appear to have an interest in the market for Dame. This is a huge distinction. They want to take advantage of Miami fixing the market, and capitalize on Portland's frustration of that or Miami's own stubbornness.

Miami doesn't have anything else to give.

Masai actually wants Dame, which blows my mind if I'm being honest.

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Pretty sure they have not offered both Jovic and Jaquez, and they only started the process yesterday of lining up the team for Herro. They do have more to give. It's nothing great, but there IS more to squeeze out of them.

[Scizzup]

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it’s Grange so…this gotta be the confirmation that TOR got Dame, right??

Grange is like Smith, he doesn't have the slightest source, nothing. Whatever he may say, whether positive or negative, can't be taken into consideration.
Spears, Stein, Woj, they are all of the same opinion, in my opinion we are here, the odds are still fluctuating, let's see.

I believe, rightly, that the Blazers will accept the best offer, which is ours. And I also believe that Lillard will have no problem playing and winning for and with us.

They are still in it but Miami can match any offer that doesn't involve Barnes imo. Blazers already have Grant who occupy similar role as OG on a big contract, also the chance of OG just leaving in FA. If OG was 23-24 his value to them would be higher as he can grow with their young guys.

even with all the **** happening I don't think Blazers are trading Dame here unless the offer is much better than Miami which is only the case if it's Barnes (age+potential). I doubt they trading Barnes.