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Re: 2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD 

Post#481 » by Bruin » Sun Jan 21, 2024 6:59 pm

Yallbecrazy wrote:
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This is the perfect draft for the NBA to throw the Raptors a bone. No clear #1 selection, lottery has many international players with little to no fan fare in North America.

FFS...The Spurs drafted their 3rd HOF C/PF last year.

Please throw us the #1 pick in this draft. That would be epic

I guess Topic is still the top player in this class and a position of need as Quickley is more of a 2 than a 1.

If we get #1 Alex Sarr is the guy
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Post#482 » by ItsDanger » Sun Jan 21, 2024 6:59 pm

Low motor/effort Ware? Who do you want on your squad from this video?

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Up 17, diving on the floor still while Ware is casual. Then watch Ware's "hustle" getting back.

Ware has potential but he's been criticized in college for poor effort often.
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Post#483 » by BoyzNTheHood » Sun Jan 21, 2024 6:59 pm

Bruin wrote:
Yallbecrazy wrote:
BoyzNTheHood wrote:Please throw us the #1 pick in this draft. That would be epic

I guess Topic is still the top player in this class and a position of need as Quickley is more of a 2 than a 1.

If we get #1 Alex Sarr is the guy

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deeps6x wrote:I guarantee you that (Jaylen) Brown and (Kris) Dunn are drafted OUT of the top 5.
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Post#484 » by Ell Curry » Sun Jan 21, 2024 7:04 pm

ItsDanger wrote:Low motor/effort Ware?

Up 17, diving on the floor still while Ware is casual. Then watch Ware's "hustle" getting back.

Ware has potential but he's been criticized in college for poor effort often.


I haven't seen Ware, but whenever I've caught Edey, I'm surprised by his fundamentals and effort. A lot of the good Big 10 centers have been undisciplined with their shot selection (Dickinson, Cockburn) and Edey is just looking to do what he does well instead of annoying Ayton-y stuff on offence.
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Re: 2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD 

Post#485 » by ItsDanger » Sun Jan 21, 2024 7:06 pm

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ItsDanger wrote:Low motor/effort Ware?

Up 17, diving on the floor still while Ware is casual. Then watch Ware's "hustle" getting back.

Ware has potential but he's been criticized in college for poor effort often.


I haven't seen Ware, but whenever I've caught Edey, I'm surprised by his fundamentals and effort. A lot of the good Big 10 centers have been undisciplined with their shot selection (Dickinson, Cockburn) and Edey is just looking to do what he does well instead of annoying Ayton-y stuff on offence.

On Vecenie's podcast he explained why. It would be selfish to take a lower % shot.
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Re: 2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD 

Post#486 » by DG88 » Sun Jan 21, 2024 7:16 pm

ItsDanger wrote:Low motor/effort Ware? Who do you want on your squad from this video?

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Up 17, diving on the floor still while Ware is casual. Then watch Ware's "hustle" getting back.

Ware has potential but he's been criticized in college for poor effort often.

This is why I need to watch tape on him because offensively he makes sense. It's the other parts of his game that I don't know about. Though that highlight is a concern.
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Post#487 » by SpezNc » Sun Jan 21, 2024 7:22 pm

ItsDanger wrote:Low motor/effort Ware? Who do you want on your squad from this video?

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Up 17, diving on the floor still while Ware is casual. Then watch Ware's "hustle" getting back.

Ware has potential but he's been criticized in college for poor effort often.


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Post#488 » by Ell Curry » Sun Jan 21, 2024 7:25 pm

DG88 wrote:He's one player I'm looking at for the first IND pick. He matches the type of C that would work for what we do offensively. Need to see how he is defensively.


Ware's team being in the high 80s/low 90s on defence might be a red flag. Ayton's team was similarly bad on defence. I think it might be the sign of a bad communicator as the anchor, or just a lack of effort. If you're a 7 footer with decent mobility and size you should probably be able to lead your team to competence defensively in college. Bol Bol had this issue too, I remember he got hurt, Oregon started Kenny Wooten (sort of a college Ben Wallace, played for the Knicks G-League team I think for a bit) and immediately went from terrible defensively to a championship contender because he was physical, blocked shots and knew how to anchor a defense, whereas Bol Bol musta been screwing everything up (they had some very good wing defenders in Dillon Brooks and some other guard, I think Will Richardson was his name).

On the other hand, Poeltl's Utah team went from 6th on D as a freshman to 60th as a sophomore by losing Delon Wright and moving Kyle Kuzma from little used to a prominent role, so it could be his teammates.

Big men with foot injuries are scary, but Clingan might drop because of that, and he was great last year, could be an O.G situation where we get a top 10 guy in the 20s because he's coming off an injury.
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Post#489 » by dozo » Sun Jan 21, 2024 7:28 pm

BoyzNTheHood wrote:
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Yallbecrazy wrote:I guess Topic is still the top player in this class and a position of need as Quickley is more of a 2 than a 1.

If we get #1 Alex Sarr is the guy

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Sarr is already a 3 level scorer and is a tremendous athlete. The issues with centre's is always their motor. He definitely fits the roster and would be excited about adding him to the core.

I'm underwhelmed with Topic's yt edits. He doesn't play at his own pace like Luka does, he relies more on his quickness to create space.

To me Tidjane Salaun,Zaccharie Risacher and Cody Williams game translate best to the todays NBA.

Mgmt has proven they can evaluate top end talent, so i hope we win the lottery or keep the pick.
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Post#490 » by Bruin » Sun Jan 21, 2024 7:33 pm

dozo wrote:
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Bruin wrote:If we get #1 Alex Sarr is the guy

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Sarr is already a 3 level scorer and is a tremendous athlete. The issues with centre's is always their motor. He definitely fits the roster and would be excited about adding him to the core.

I'm underwhelmed with Topic's yt edits. He doesn't play at his own pace like Luka does, he relies more on his quickness to create space.

To me Tidjane Salaun,Zaccharie Risacher and Cody Williams game translate best to the todays NBA.

Mgmt has proven they can evaluate top end talent, so i hope we win the lottery or keep the pick.

Best case scenario would be to win the lotto and get Sarr. Then package the Pacers pick, OKC pick, and maybe the Detroit pick to get another top pick in the Top 10 and get Salaun or Risacher
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Post#491 » by BoyzNTheHood » Sun Jan 21, 2024 7:43 pm

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ItsDanger wrote:Low motor/effort Ware?

Up 17, diving on the floor still while Ware is casual. Then watch Ware's "hustle" getting back.

Ware has potential but he's been criticized in college for poor effort often.


I haven't seen Ware, but whenever I've caught Edey, I'm surprised by his fundamentals and effort. A lot of the good Big 10 centers have been undisciplined with their shot selection (Dickinson, Cockburn) and Edey is just looking to do what he does well instead of annoying Ayton-y stuff on offence.

On Vecenie's podcast he explained why. It would be selfish to take a lower % shot.

A high character young man, with one hell of a game. The fact that he’s started stretching it out to 3 is amazing for his long term projection. Why can’t he be as good as his fellow lumbering big man Brook Lopez? A bigger Lopez would be desired by 30 NBA teams in my opinion.
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Post#492 » by Mark_83 » Sun Jan 21, 2024 7:44 pm

ItsDanger wrote:Low motor/effort Ware? Who do you want on your squad from this video?

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Up 17, diving on the floor still while Ware is casual. Then watch Ware's "hustle" getting back.

Ware has potential but he's been criticized in college for poor effort often.

This pretty much sums up my thoughts on Ware.

Mark_83 wrote:I like Ware's game but not so much him if that makes sense. I agree that the tools and playing style (stretch 4/5 with size and length to rim run and block shots) are exactly what we need next to Scottie, but I question his ability to reach his full potential (something like a taller Jaren Jackson). He seems soft and lacks aggressiveness. He should be dominating college ball with his skillset but he's inconsistent and can disappear too often during games instead of imposing his will. I see more of a Christian Wood type maybe a poor man's LaMarcus Aldridge on the high end outcome, but it's difficult to teach will and intensity. If you put KG's brain in his body he would be a superstar.
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Post#493 » by bozothepope » Sun Jan 21, 2024 7:45 pm

I’m all in on Big Z. That was one heck of a debut. Kentucky seems stacked this year.
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Post#494 » by BoyzNTheHood » Sun Jan 21, 2024 7:46 pm

Mark_83 wrote:
ItsDanger wrote:Low motor/effort Ware? Who do you want on your squad from this video?

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Up 17, diving on the floor still while Ware is casual. Then watch Ware's "hustle" getting back.

Ware has potential but he's been criticized in college for poor effort often.

This pretty much sums up my thoughts on Ware.

Mark_83 wrote:I like Ware's game but not so much him if that makes sense. I agree that the tools and playing style (stretch 4/5 with size and length to rim run and block shots) are exactly what we need next to Scottie, but I question his ability to reach his full potential (something like a taller Jaren Jackson). He seems soft and lacks aggressiveness. He should be dominating college ball with his skillset but he's inconsistent and can disappear too often during games instead of imposing his will. I see more of a Christian Wood type maybe a poor man's LaMarcus Aldridge on the high end outcome, but it's difficult to teach will and intensity. If you put KG's brain in his body he would be a superstar.

The lack of effort is very concerning. What happens once he gets a big NBA payday? His game is beyond intriguing but a lack of effort cannot be taught and is a huge red flag.
deeps6x wrote:I guarantee you that (Jaylen) Brown and (Kris) Dunn are drafted OUT of the top 5.
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Post#495 » by Bruin » Sun Jan 21, 2024 7:49 pm

bozothepope wrote:I’m all in on Big Z. That was one heck of a debut. Kentucky seems stacked this year.

Kentucky is stacked every year. Talent has never been their issue. Coach Cal is a great recruiter but a very mid coach

I like Big Z too but I’m gonna wait for a better sample size. Need to see what his main weaknesses are
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Post#496 » by Brinbe » Sun Jan 21, 2024 7:50 pm

Would be very surprised if they didn't have interest in Edey.
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Post#497 » by Ell Curry » Sun Jan 21, 2024 8:07 pm

ItsDanger wrote:
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ItsDanger wrote:Low motor/effort Ware?

Up 17, diving on the floor still while Ware is casual. Then watch Ware's "hustle" getting back.

Ware has potential but he's been criticized in college for poor effort often.


I haven't seen Ware, but whenever I've caught Edey, I'm surprised by his fundamentals and effort. A lot of the good Big 10 centers have been undisciplined with their shot selection (Dickinson, Cockburn) and Edey is just looking to do what he does well instead of annoying Ayton-y stuff on offence.

On Vecenie's podcast he explained why. It would be selfish to take a lower % shot.


I mean c'mon, how am I supposed to resist an 11 foot Canadian who says this kind of thing, even if he might just be Boban 2.0 and will get toasted by any guard who can hit a pullup 3 and force him to step up on pick and rolls?

Maybe if Quickley is our smallest guard going forward we can play drop more with lots of length around?
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Post#498 » by BoyzNTheHood » Sun Jan 21, 2024 8:08 pm

Bruin wrote:
bozothepope wrote:I’m all in on Big Z. That was one heck of a debut. Kentucky seems stacked this year.

Kentucky is stacked every year. Talent has never been their issue. Coach Cal is a great recruiter but a very mid coach

I like Big Z too but I’m gonna wait for a better sample size. Need to see what his main weaknesses are

I see what you’re saying, but as the bus driver of the Ivisic bandwagon before seeing the last game it’s clear to me that he’s my guy this year. It sucks that he got to play (for us, not for him). We had a shot at 31 before he played but now he will/should be in consideration at 6 imho
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Post#499 » by ItsDanger » Sun Jan 21, 2024 11:32 pm

Need to see more of Yang for a better opinion but shouldn't there be more interest in him? Looks promising but maybe the lack of decent Chinese prospects recently has hurt his chances.


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Post#500 » by ItsDanger » Mon Jan 22, 2024 12:03 am

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Not sure if he's declaring, not much talk about him. Starting for Kansas now, plus rebounder, can shoot but his role is limited to 3s currently, hustles, need to watch him as a starter.
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