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Breaking: Rogers Aquires Bell Stake In MLSE

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Re: Breaking: Rogers Aquires Bell Stake In MLSE 

Post#481 » by ForeverTFC » Wed Apr 9, 2025 8:36 pm

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Since he's taking over MLSE in a major position after buying out Bell, stuff like this is positive considering he's a putz


The issue with the Jays under Rogers hasn't been the purse strings. Same with MLSE. Problem with Rogers is who he puts in charge and surrounds himself with.
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Re: Breaking: Rogers Aquires Bell Stake In MLSE 

Post#482 » by ontnut » Wed Apr 9, 2025 8:49 pm

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bluerap23 wrote:Rich man signs cheque - news


Since he's taking over MLSE in a major position after buying out Bell, stuff like this is positive considering he's a putz


The issue with the Jays under Rogers hasn't been the purse strings. Same with MLSE. Problem with Rogers is who he puts in charge and surrounds himself with.

We went from a team that hit all the home runs to a team that could hit none because the guys he put in charge thought defense won in the playoffs.
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Re: Breaking: Rogers Aquires Bell Stake In MLSE 

Post#483 » by Raps in 4 » Wed Apr 9, 2025 9:13 pm

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Re: Breaking: Rogers Aquires Bell Stake In MLSE 

Post#484 » by Tacoma » Wed Apr 9, 2025 10:30 pm

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Ed is asking the wrong person. This is like asking a arsonist how do we stop fires from happening. Shapiro has been running the Jays since 2015 and has not shown he knows how to build a championship team or close to it. It starts with replacing Shapiro IMO.
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Re: Breaking: Rogers Aquires Bell Stake In MLSE 

Post#485 » by JB7 » Thu Apr 10, 2025 1:35 am

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bluerap23 wrote:Rich man signs cheque - news


Since he's taking over MLSE in a major position after buying out Bell, stuff like this is positive considering he's a putz


I think the signing of Vlad is related in that, he is probably still trying to sell the Jays, now that he has gone all in on MLSE, so they could not afford to lose Vlad. They need something of value on the Jays to entice a buyer.
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Re: Breaking: Rogers Aquires Bell Stake In MLSE 

Post#486 » by Raps in 4 » Thu Apr 10, 2025 1:35 am

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Ed is asking the wrong person. This is like asking a arsonist how do we stop fires from happening. Shapiro has been running the Jays since 2015 and has not shown he knows how to build a championship team or close to it. It starts with replacing Shapiro IMO.


We have 0 playoff wins in 8 seasons under this regime. We also consistently have a bottom-5 ranked farm system (including this year). This FO is hilariously inept at finding talent. Vladdy was scouted and signed by AA. Bo was selected by AA's scouts since Shatkins didn't have time to hire their own scouts when they arrived (they still had to fight tooth and nail with Shatkins to convince them to draft him). Romano and Jansen were also drafted by AA. Kirk and Manoah are the only homegrown "success" stories of this FO, and their success lasted about one season before they both regressed to potatoes because they have horrendous conditioning.

He's running the Jays just like he ran the Guardians. That is to say, he's running them into the ground. The fact that Shapiro is still employed by this organization after almost a decade of abject failure tells you everything you need to know about Ed's commitment to winning.
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Re: Breaking: Rogers Aquires Bell Stake In MLSE 

Post#487 » by Westside Gunn » Thu Apr 10, 2025 10:48 am

Surprised it will be like 10 years with Shatkins and Shapiro with nothing to show for it.

if Vlad has an off year, maybe Robbers will finally have an excuse to fire them to get something out of the 500 million investment.
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Re: Breaking: Rogers Aquires Bell Stake In MLSE 

Post#488 » by Jerry Lucas » Thu Apr 10, 2025 11:16 am

Westside Gunn wrote:Surprised it will be like 10 years with Shatkins and Shapiro with nothing to show for it.

if Vlad has an off year, maybe Robbers will finally have an excuse to fire them to get something out of the 500 million investment.

Shatkins AND Shapiro? :lol:
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Re: Breaking: Rogers Aquires Bell Stake In MLSE 

Post#489 » by WuTang_OG » Wed Jun 4, 2025 9:36 pm

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Re: Breaking: Rogers Aquires Bell Stake In MLSE 

Post#490 » by Tor_Raps » Wed Jun 4, 2025 10:02 pm

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Does that mean Larry is out officially as soon as this goes through?
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Re: Breaking: Rogers Aquires Bell Stake In MLSE 

Post#491 » by WuTang_OG » Wed Jun 4, 2025 10:11 pm

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Does that mean Larry is out officially as soon as this goes through?


Nope

His buy out option is in July 2026
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Re: Breaking: Rogers Aquires Bell Stake In MLSE 

Post#492 » by Anticon » Thu Jun 5, 2025 12:12 am

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Tacoma wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:
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Ed is asking the wrong person. This is like asking a arsonist how do we stop fires from happening. Shapiro has been running the Jays since 2015 and has not shown he knows how to build a championship team or close to it. It starts with replacing Shapiro IMO.


We have 0 playoff wins in 8 seasons under this regime. We also consistently have a bottom-5 ranked farm system (including this year). This FO is hilariously inept at finding talent. Vladdy was scouted and signed by AA. Bo was selected by AA's scouts since Shatkins didn't have time to hire their own scouts when they arrived (they still had to fight tooth and nail with Shatkins to convince them to draft him). Romano and Jansen were also drafted by AA. Kirk and Manoah are the only homegrown "success" stories of this FO, and their success lasted about one season before they both regressed to potatoes because they have horrendous conditioning.

He's running the Jays just like he ran the Guardians. That is to say, he's running them into the ground. The fact that Shapiro is still employed by this organization after almost a decade of abject failure tells you everything you need to know about Ed's commitment to winning.


The sad thing is you could see this coming as soon as they hired Shapiro. He started complaining about AA depleting the farm system to get wins as soon as he arrived, and acted like rebuilding that was the main job he had to do, as if building a contending team was somehow a thing for AA to be ashamed of.

The end result is that he's been too incompetent to either get wins or find prospects. Just a bleak depressing joke of a front office.

The upside for the Raps is that NBA losses sting more, which means they'll be less likely to tolerate losing. The downside is they'll be more involved and likely be more similar to Dolan/Vivek and make rash decisions.

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