PG: Scottie overwhelms Celtics

[ontnut]

Had fun just now reading the Celtic board postgame thread.

Too many takes to mention but one theme was, same as last year. Not happy with the effort or the coaching. Bad roster construction. Team is too small AND not enough shooting, a bad combination.

This surprised me: a couple posters quite critical of Tatum, a player I would kill for on the Raps.

tatum is who he's always been. while you improve as a player as your career goes, the DNA never changes. could tell from the beginning that tatum didn't have the drive to be a leader of the franchise. he's too into himself, and being cool. there's a million things wrong with his game. brown is more of a leader and every bit as talented, or more in my opinion. he may not have tatum's natural shooting touch, but he has much better work ethic, which has allowed him to reach his potential. move on from tatum, and try to right the ship.

Good to see overreactions are not just limited to the Raps page.
Tatum is a borderline top 10 talent, and probably will be at some point in his career. Move on from him? lol. He's a guy you want to build around.

[720]

Had fun just now reading the Celtic board postgame thread.

Too many takes to mention but one theme was, same as last year. Not happy with the effort or the coaching. Bad roster construction. Team is too small AND not enough shooting, a bad combination.

This surprised me: a couple posters quite critical of Tatum, a player I would kill for on the Raps.

tatum is who he's always been. while you improve as a player as your career goes, the DNA never changes. could tell from the beginning that tatum didn't have the drive to be a leader of the franchise. he's too into himself, and being cool. there's a million things wrong with his game. brown is more of a leader and every bit as talented, or more in my opinion. he may not have tatum's natural shooting touch, but he has much better work ethic, which has allowed him to reach his potential. move on from tatum, and try to right the ship.

Good to see overreactions are not just limited to the Raps page.
Tatum is a borderline top 10 talent, and probably will be at some point in his career. Move on from him? lol. He's a guy you want to build around.

To me, the problem really is that both Brown and Tatum while elite talent, don't really get others involved. They also overlap when it comes to skillset. They really need a pass first point guard, Kemba was not that (plus he was injured half the time there anyways) Schroder is not that either. They're trying Smart at the point and that's not going to work.

Also Tatum plays too soft, he doesn't attack the rim with force, he should be shooting a lot more free throws.

[DelAbbot]

Siakam thinks he is the next Kawhi

[LastNameEver]

Had fun just now reading the Celtic board postgame thread.

Too many takes to mention but one theme was, same as last year. Not happy with the effort or the coaching. Bad roster construction. Team is too small AND not enough shooting, a bad combination.

This surprised me: a couple posters quite critical of Tatum, a player I would kill for on the Raps.

tatum is who he's always been. while you improve as a player as your career goes, the DNA never changes. could tell from the beginning that tatum didn't have the drive to be a leader of the franchise. he's too into himself, and being cool. there's a million things wrong with his game. brown is more of a leader and every bit as talented, or more in my opinion. he may not have tatum's natural shooting touch, but he has much better work ethic, which has allowed him to reach his potential. move on from tatum, and try to right the ship.

Truth is Tatum and Brown are both very good shooters.

But not great at anything else.

Theyre overreacting, Tatum is still a title contender level of talent. If he was a few inches shorter with less physical tools hed still be a Devin Booker tier talent - whose a feature player on a title level team.

[will]

Siakam thinks he is the next Kawhi

What a meme

[LoveMyRaps]

A tandem of Siakam, Barnes, & OG will be special.
A trio that will be a defensive nightmare for the opposition & provide immense versality on the offensive end.

[will]

A tandem of Siakam, Barnes, & OG will be special.
A trio that will be a defensive nightmare for the opposition & provide immense versality on the offensive end.

I believe that is the goal Masai, Bobby and Nicky are attempting to achieve.

It is going to be glorious, man.

[Johnny Bball]

yeah you laugh because you have nothing to say and don't knowxwhat you're talking about... what are you gonna even argue against what I said? You think og has a scorers game and can create offense for himself consistently? Again you're absolutely wrong.

I've made statements 3 years ago regarding specific player's games that I caught flack for...

I literally got warned for "trolling" because I complained about fvv for the same flaws most people are finally seeing now, when most of the board was still on his nuts... now you have posters saying that the board has an anti Fred problem...

I said ogs potential was more a 3 and d role player possible Shawn Marion type, and that siakam had more overall potential than him because of siakams natural ability and fluidity... again to a lot of anger for putting such limitations on a potential star...

For years I said norman Powell deserved a bigger role on the team because of his skillset and that he was being neutered and should be developed more, again with the majority of the board telling me hecsucked couldn't finish in traffic etc ... then 2 years ago eith a consistent role he makes a big leap and then last year, the first time he was consistently a starter due to injuries he blows up...

I said demar needed to be traded in order for us to take the next step because we had all the right pieces around a star but were building around the wrong star...

You guys can all come at me ill trust my player assessments...

I have no doubt you believe this version of history, but its completely false. You championed EVERY guard over FVV. You were wrong every single time. You championed Powell and I told you he would be traded and why. Powell was just one more guard in a long series of guards that you really didn't know how to evaluate or assess, because it was nothing but a complete bias. And you still cant let it go, and now are trying to revise what happened. Incredible.

[everdiso]

Had fun just now reading the Celtic board postgame thread.

Too many takes to mention but one theme was, same as last year. Not happy with the effort or the coaching. Bad roster construction. Team is too small AND not enough shooting, a bad combination.

This surprised me: a couple posters quite critical of Tatum, a player I would kill for on the Raps.

Truth is Tatum and Brown are both very good shooters.

But not great at anything else.

Theyre overreacting, Tatum is still a title contender level of talent. If he was a few inches shorter with less physical tools hed still be a Devin Booker tier talent - whose a feature player on a title level team.

One of the more overrated things about Tatum is his size - he's in the 6'7-6'8 range without spectacular wingspan (has usually been measured in the 6'10-6'11 range), and not naturally thick.

All of Siakam, OG, scottie are significantly longer and stronger than him.

[everdiso]

I've made statements 3 years ago regarding specific player's games that I caught flack for...

I literally got warned for "trolling" because I complained about fvv for the same flaws most people are finally seeing now, when most of the board was still on his nuts... now you have posters saying that the board has an anti Fred problem...

I said ogs potential was more a 3 and d role player possible Shawn Marion type, and that siakam had more overall potential than him because of siakams natural ability and fluidity... again to a lot of anger for putting such limitations on a potential star...

For years I said norman Powell deserved a bigger role on the team because of his skillset and that he was being neutered and should be developed more, again with the majority of the board telling me hecsucked couldn't finish in traffic etc ... then 2 years ago eith a consistent role he makes a big leap and then last year, the first time he was consistently a starter due to injuries he blows up...

I said demar needed to be traded in order for us to take the next step because we had all the right pieces around a star but were building around the wrong star...

You guys can all come at me ill trust my player assessments...

I have no doubt you believe this version of history, but its completely false. You championed EVERY guard over FVV. You were wrong every single time. You championed Powell and I told you he would be traded and why. Powell was just one more guard in a long series of guards that you really didn't know how to evaluate or assess, because it was nothing but a complete bias. And you still cant let it go, and now are trying to revise what happened. Incredible.

Not to mention - Norm is still actually bad.

[OakleyDokely]

A tandem of Siakam, Barnes, & OG will be special.
A trio that will be a defensive nightmare for the opposition & provide immense versality on the offensive end.

I'd add Precious to that group as well.

[LoveMyRaps]

A tandem of Siakam, Barnes, & OG will be special.
A trio that will be a defensive nightmare for the opposition & provide immense versality on the offensive end.

I'd add Precious to that group as well.

Oh for sure man. We're in great hands. Precious had an underrated performance last night against the C's. He looked good, especially going up against Robert Williams who's one of the best interior defenders in the league.

[Scott Hall]

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[refshateRaps]

What a gem we drafted

[LJKO]

Barnes, Trent, OG, Pascal, Precious should be our starting lineup and we should package FVV+Dragic at trade deadline for scoring

[Ackshun]

Had fun just now reading the Celtic board postgame thread.

Too many takes to mention but one theme was, same as last year. Not happy with the effort or the coaching. Bad roster construction. Team is too small AND not enough shooting, a bad combination.

This surprised me: a couple posters quite critical of Tatum, a player I would kill for on the Raps.

tatum is who he's always been. while you improve as a player as your career goes, the DNA never changes. could tell from the beginning that tatum didn't have the drive to be a leader of the franchise. he's too into himself, and being cool. there's a million things wrong with his game. brown is more of a leader and every bit as talented, or more in my opinion. he may not have tatum's natural shooting touch, but he has much better work ethic, which has allowed him to reach his potential. move on from tatum, and try to right the ship.

Good to see overreactions are not just limited to the Raps page.
Tatum is a borderline top 10 talent, and probably will be at some point in his career. Move on from him? lol. He's a guy you want to build around.

Lol. Move Tatum. Hope that's just one irrational take from a fan. Most teams would kill for this guy.

[seanbig]

This team is such a Jekyll and Hyde team and if we can run in transition we will be fine in the regular season

If we get pounded down low or if the game slows down it’s over

[LarSiN]

As an aside...my lawd Alvin Williams was so painful to listen to it almost made me miss Leo; ALMOST.

Nick Kypreos Was a train wreck as a analyst when he first started. Same with jimmy fallon.. get some reps and he’ll be fine.

alvin was perfectly fine last night. he also kept matt focused. i like the duo right now.

Agreed, had no problem with Alvin last night, too busy enjoying the game. He was perfectly fine imo

[AkelaLoneWolf]

Had fun just now reading the Celtic board postgame thread.

Too many takes to mention but one theme was, same as last year. Not happy with the effort or the coaching. Bad roster construction. Team is too small AND not enough shooting, a bad combination.

This surprised me: a couple posters quite critical of Tatum, a player I would kill for on the Raps.

tatum is who he's always been. while you improve as a player as your career goes, the DNA never changes. could tell from the beginning that tatum didn't have the drive to be a leader of the franchise. he's too into himself, and being cool. there's a million things wrong with his game. brown is more of a leader and every bit as talented, or more in my opinion. he may not have tatum's natural shooting touch, but he has much better work ethic, which has allowed him to reach his potential. move on from tatum, and try to right the ship.

Good to see overreactions are not just limited to the Raps page.
Tatum is a borderline top 10 talent, and probably will be at some point in his career. Move on from him? lol. He's a guy you want to build around.

its funny tho I'd rather have Brown than Tatum on teh raps as well