Windhorst - "Sixers wouldn't give up Maxey"

[WaltFrazier]

Certainly not looking like it now. But I stand by what I said that Maxey was always the better player but that Achiuwa had the higher ceiling if everything hit. There is a reason Pat Riley drafted Precious over Maxey.

It's not about the draft year. This thread was from 2022 when Maxey was breaking out. It was clear Maxey was miles ahead of Precious by then

Precious had a number of nice flashes to close that 2022 season and I believe in the playoffs to give us some hope moving forward. Nowhere near Maxey hope, but some decent hope.
Maxey by that point in spring of 2022 was already causing us nightmares.

True Achiuwa was looking like a decent role player back then. But hasn't materialized since then.

Nice little comeback tonight though after a rough start

[bballsparkin]

I don't believe that Maxey was offered for an expiring, soon to be overpaid Lowry. Especially not by Morey. However, I scoffed at Pascal for Tobias Harris and Maxey. And admittedly that hasn't aged well. I would love that deal now. Maxey and NN makes so much sense now that I see it.

[Kreamy]

Probably Masai's biggest blunder as Raptors GM. The Lowry situation was pivotal, not trading him at the deadline and eating the final year of Dragic's contract set a series of bad decisions in motion. Not trading VanVleet the summer of '22 when he turned down the extension and still had value, doubling down on a mediocre team last deadline with Poeltl instead of committing to a youth movement and giving up low-protected pick to do so, and now Siakam. All while losing a top 5 coach along the way. If it wasn't for the championship and his previous body of work, Masai would have surely been fired for his performance the last 4 years.

[Raps in 4]

I'm not really mad about this (assuming Maxey was ever available). He was a raw prospect like any other back then. If Masai thought Precious was a better prospect at the time, so be it. He's not going to hit on every prospect evaluation.

I'm more concerned with the fact that we've been trading picks away like candy since then instead of trying to draft a player of that calibre. And we've been holding onto an aging core instead of trading them for picks, or prospects. This approach of hoping to find star-level talent in the undrafted market every year isn't going to lead to any success. We need to get back to drafting and developing players.

[Wargreymon]

I'm honestly happy we got Precious Achiuwa instead of Maxey in the Lowry trade.

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[C_Money]

I'm not really mad about this (assuming Maxey was ever available). He was a raw prospect like any other back then. If Masai thought Precious was a better prospect at the time, so be it. He's not going to hit on every prospect evaluation.

I'm more concerned with the fact that we've been trading picks away like candy since then instead of trying to draft a player of that calibre. And we've been holding onto an aging core instead of trading them for picks, or prospects. This approach of hoping to find star-level talent in the undrafted market every year isn't going to lead to any success. We need to get back to drafting and developing players.

The problem is Masai will always choose the 6’9 forward with no skill over the scoring guard. Only god knows what the hell he saw in Jalen McDaniels. Probably the same thing he saw in Stanley Johnson and Hollis-Jefferson.

[PerfectJab]

Precious Achiuwa is the Sonny Weems of this generation. It's the same breed of fans that argued that Weems was better than Derozan, that big men take time to develop (ala Bargs and Bruno) and now Malachi Flynn just needing more reps. Some on this board tend to over-romanticize our prospects and even back then it was clear that Maxey was the better prospect.

I don't think there is a single GM in the league that wouldn't have traded Maxey for Achiuwa yet some on this board actually argued against that and would have you believe that Achiuwa was a future superstar in the making when it was pretty clear his ceiling was a solid role player.

[maternal85]

A bunch of know it all wives on here. You know, when you say I'm taking X road. "Sure honey go ahead". You take the road and you find out it's closed off due to an accident or whatever. The next thing you know, it's "I told you taking this road wasn't a good idea". Married fellas know what I'm talking about.

These little we the north, NBA Live, Ms cleo future telling dorks are comical. You don't know what was offered, or who offered what. Furthermore, you don't know what MLSE (Ujiri boss) mandates are during that time. Is Ujiri perfect ? Hell no. No GM is. Maxey was drafted, what 21st ? Apparently who needs to pay NBA GM' s millions. We have we the north dorks living in their moms basement who could do better. Rogers was right. We don't need to pay Ujiri all that money.

[mowcrowbar]

I mean which sane GM would give up Maxey? No brainer. We saw how he torched Lowry in the playoffs too.

[PerfectJab]

A bunch of know it all wives on here. You know, when you say I'm taking X road. "Sure honey go ahead". You take the road and you find out it's closed off due to an accident or whatever. The next thing you know, it's "I told you taking this road wasn't a good idea". Married fellas know what I'm talking about.

These little we the north, NBA Live, Ms cleo future telling dorks are comical. You don't know what was offered, or who offered what. Furthermore, you don't know what MLSE (Ujiri boss) mandates are during that time. Is Ujiri perfect ? Hell no. No GM is. Maxey was drafted, what 21st ? Apparently who needs to pay NBA GM' s millions. We have we the north dorks living in their moms basement who could do better. Rogers was right. We don't need to pay Ujiri all that money.

The funny thing is that perceptually and from afar you come across as the same type of person that you're complaining about