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Post#501 » by bballsparkin » Sat Apr 13, 2024 12:02 am

Yallbecrazy wrote:If we get the #1 or #2 pick and SA gets #5 or #6 would anyone be opposed to swapping picks and taking back our pick next year?


It's got to be the dream scenario at this point.
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Post#502 » by bballsparkin » Sat Apr 13, 2024 12:06 am

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Yallbecrazy wrote:If we get the #1 or #2 pick and SA gets #5 or #6 would anyone be opposed to swapping picks and taking back our pick next year?


Would SA do that deal though?


They would have to love a player. LOVE. Unlikely I'm sure.
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Post#503 » by Kevin Willis » Sat Apr 13, 2024 12:17 am

Jerry Lucas wrote:CMB and Mogbo were both on the lists of Masai-type college prospects I posted in another thread back in mid-March.

https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=2365034&p=111956705#p111956705

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Post#504 » by deeps6x » Sat Apr 13, 2024 1:02 am

MEDIC wrote:I am definitely buying into Reed Sheppard a little more. He at least has an elite level NBA skill (Off the catch & off the dribble 3 point shooting). You could use him & Quick kind of like they used Lowry & Fred. Have him come off the bench as the backup PG, but also give him minutes at the 2 with Quick in the game. I think he fits the system really well. This team desperately needs some elite 3 point shooting. Between Quick, GD & Sheppard, that's a nice guard rotation with some serious firepower. If they re-sign, Gary.....he's another one. Very versatile lineup. Scottie can average 10 assists a game with that group.

Sheppards game reminds me of Quickley's. Less speed, but he has a lot in his bag (Catch & shoot, shooting off the dribble, 3 point, mid range, good hesitation moves, good ball handling skills, decent court vision & passing, floaters, etc). He has a pretty good vertical as well, so athletically there is something to work with. He has more length & athleticism than Fred.

A 6th MOTY type player like Malcom Brogdon isn't a bad haul in a draft like this one (I think he has more athleticism than Brogdon). This team can't afford to come away empty so I am not keen on drafting a high risk player.

I am definitely higher on Sheppard for this team than Castle or Dillingham.


I agree with all of this, except for the last line. I'm only slightly higher on Sheppard then Castle or Dillingham. I think we need 3 point shooting more then D or another facilitator.
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Post#505 » by RoteSchroder » Sat Apr 13, 2024 1:40 am

nivisi9 wrote:I really wish we hadn't traded one of our picks for (Atrashji and olynk) always making treadmillish moves even in a rebuild...

I think we could've had ultimate dream draft is we got some lottery luck...

lottery to top 4- Alex Sarr

Pacers pick - Kyshaun George

Traded pick- Tyler Kolek

Detroit pick - Ulirch Chomche

Could've got a little bit of everything, and I actually love all those prospects...

-Sarr + Chomche HUGE ceiling future bigs
- Kolek arguably the most underrated player in the draft, will atleast be a great NBA backup PG
- K.George high ceiling + high IQ , 6'8 wing who can shoot


damn...


Sarr - Offense will probably be limited, especially in today's league. Value is obviously in his defense. I think he's closer to a Bosh type defender, good mobility, but weak in the post against strong C's.

Kyshawn George - good shooter, very slow, not good at anything else, prone to making a couple dumb mistakes per game

Kolek - good back up PG

Chomche - a bit of an unknown still, will have to see how he does at the Hoops Summit

That line could turn out to be: back-up big/back-up PG/bust/bust
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Post#506 » by OAKLEY_2 » Sat Apr 13, 2024 3:26 am

Because players are a tad individually underwheming I am breaking this down as:
1-6 pick lotto balls convey or or pick guards. Guards I like best 1. Topic. 2. Castle. 3. Ja Kobe Walter.
17 -19 known as the Pacers pick is where I grab one of the many centres. Zac if there or Missi or take a flyer on Zvonimir Ivisic.
31. Power forwards. Surprise me Masai. Klintman, Hall, Bona. maybe small forward Pacome Dadiet.
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Post#507 » by nivisi9 » Sat Apr 13, 2024 9:08 am

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nivisi9 wrote:I really wish we hadn't traded one of our picks for (Atrashji and olynk) always making treadmillish moves even in a rebuild...

I think we could've had ultimate dream draft is we got some lottery luck...

lottery to top 4- Alex Sarr

Pacers pick - Kyshaun George

Traded pick- Tyler Kolek

Detroit pick - Ulirch Chomche

Could've got a little bit of everything, and I actually love all those prospects...

-Sarr + Chomche HUGE ceiling future bigs
- Kolek arguably the most underrated player in the draft, will atleast be a great NBA backup PG
- K.George high ceiling + high IQ , 6'8 wing who can shoot


damn...


Sarr - Offense will probably be limited, especially in today's league. Value is obviously in his defense. I think he's closer to a Bosh type defender, good mobility, but weak in the post against strong C's.

Kyshawn George - good shooter, very slow, not good at anything else, prone to making a couple dumb mistakes per game

Kolek - good back up PG

Chomche - a bit of an unknown still, will have to see how he does at the Hoops Summit

That line could turn out to be: back-up big/back-up PG/bust/bust


Obviously evaluating them all at basically worst case scenario.... in which you still mentioned Bosh and a backup PG (both of which this team is desperate for)...

George isnt a super athlete but hes also 19 yrs old, 6'8, high bbiq, wing, who can shoot-----typical projection kid at the most valuable position in the league and plays smart, the tools are there. You could easily see some poor mans Paul George in his game if he were to develop nicely over the next 5-6 yrs

Kolek is gonna be a steal book it

Sarr could be alot of things and has super elite tools (may never be an offensive beast but who knows?)

Chomche is super intriguing, kind of the Giannis type swing

that's a super enticing crop in our development system over the next 5-6 yrs, all in a single "weakest draft ever"
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Post#508 » by anotherhomer » Sat Apr 13, 2024 10:14 am

imagine talking about the draft, only to end up giving the pick to the Spurs
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Post#509 » by OAKLEY_2 » Sat Apr 13, 2024 10:21 am

anotherhomer wrote:imagine talking about the draft, only to end up giving the pick to the Spurs


Then we pick late lotto next year.
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Post#510 » by nivisi9 » Sat Apr 13, 2024 11:26 am

OAKLEY_2 wrote:
anotherhomer wrote:imagine talking about the draft, only to end up giving the pick to the Spurs


Then we pick late lotto next year.


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Post#511 » by Psubs » Sat Apr 13, 2024 1:51 pm

I'm still firm on Tristan DaSilva at the Pacers pick unless reach for Carlton Carrington.

I see DaSilva being like a 6'9 Mo Pete or a Hedo Turkoglu or Ersan Ilyasova.
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Post#512 » by Jstock12 » Sat Apr 13, 2024 2:04 pm

OakleyDokely wrote:Unless Reed comes from extreme wealth, you enter the draft and take the payday of a top 10 pick.

One bad season or injury and all the money disappears.

Yeah that would be even worse than Schroder rejecting LA's 90 mil contract few years ago cause at least Schroder had already made enough money. Reed's stock it at the highest that it can be. He played a great season and had, let's be honest, an unsustainable 3PT percentage. And it just so happens that this draft is one of the weakest ones where he's all of a sudden a projected top10 pick. This could compound to be a potential $100 mil decision for him even if he doesn't get some nasty injury and reaches his full potential. You really want to be able to sign a big or max contract in the NBA as soon as possible if you're a really good player to maximize the money you can earn over your career.
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Post#513 » by BoyzNTheHood » Sat Apr 13, 2024 3:42 pm

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Post#514 » by Fansince95 » Sat Apr 13, 2024 3:55 pm

bballsparkin wrote:
Yallbecrazy wrote:If we get the #1 or #2 pick and SA gets #5 or #6 would anyone be opposed to swapping picks and taking back our pick next year?


It's got to be the dream scenario at this point.

Dream scenario is we win lottery and get #1
Then pacers drop to play in and lose. Are now in the lottery and get the 4th pick (top 3 protected)
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Post#515 » by aminiaturebuddha » Sat Apr 13, 2024 3:58 pm

Anyone know if there's a way to watch the Nike Hoop Summit in Canada? I can't really find it anywhere. I guess it's on FS1 in the US, but that doesn't help much.
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Post#516 » by BoyzNTheHood » Sat Apr 13, 2024 3:58 pm

Imagine getting a 7’1” unicorn. Whoever gets Sarr will be very happy. Wemby has spoiled people but there will probably never be another Wemby as long as we all live. He’s a once in a lifetime prototype.

But if you can grab a 7’1” guy with handles you have to do it. I’d even contemplate trading up or in for him. If other GM’s think this draft is weak we can capitalize, for the blank canvas of a 7 footer with quick feet and handles alone.

At his peak he’s KG, and at his worst he’s a wash out. But I’m willing to do what it takes to see it play out in Toronto.
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Post#517 » by Psubs » Sat Apr 13, 2024 4:00 pm

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I can see Memphis drafting him at #7 or Atlanta at #10.
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Post#518 » by RoteSchroder » Sat Apr 13, 2024 4:42 pm

nivisi9 wrote:
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nivisi9 wrote:I really wish we hadn't traded one of our picks for (Atrashji and olynk) always making treadmillish moves even in a rebuild...

I think we could've had ultimate dream draft is we got some lottery luck...

lottery to top 4- Alex Sarr

Pacers pick - Kyshaun George

Traded pick- Tyler Kolek

Detroit pick - Ulirch Chomche

Could've got a little bit of everything, and I actually love all those prospects...

-Sarr + Chomche HUGE ceiling future bigs
- Kolek arguably the most underrated player in the draft, will atleast be a great NBA backup PG
- K.George high ceiling + high IQ , 6'8 wing who can shoot


damn...


Sarr - Offense will probably be limited, especially in today's league. Value is obviously in his defense. I think he's closer to a Bosh type defender, good mobility, but weak in the post against strong C's.

Kyshawn George - good shooter, very slow, not good at anything else, prone to making a couple dumb mistakes per game

Kolek - good back up PG

Chomche - a bit of an unknown still, will have to see how he does at the Hoops Summit

That line could turn out to be: back-up big/back-up PG/bust/bust


Obviously evaluating them all at basically worst case scenario.... in which you still mentioned Bosh and a backup PG (both of which this team is desperate for)...

George isnt a super athlete but hes also 19 yrs old, 6'8, high bbiq, wing, who can shoot-----typical projection kid at the most valuable position in the league and plays smart, the tools are there. You could easily see some poor mans Paul George in his game if he were to develop nicely over the next 5-6 yrs

Kolek is gonna be a steal book it

Sarr could be alot of things and has super elite tools (may never be an offensive beast but who knows?)

Chomche is super intriguing, kind of the Giannis type swing

that's a super enticing crop in our development system over the next 5-6 yrs, all in a single "weakest draft ever"


More so realistic than worst case. Sarr has been compared to a poor man’s Mobley. I’d stick Sarr at PF rather than C and have him develop his shooting, he can back-up Scottie.

The Bosh comparison is only on D. Bosh was a tier 3 defender at PF at best. Sarr has a bit more potential than that with better shot blocking, but he can’t defend the post at all, which limits his upside as a defender.

Kyshawn doesn’t have good b-ball IQ, he can make simple passes, but he should be more of a connector on offense in the NBA rather than being an on-ball playmaker, as he’s not a very high level playmaker. Outside of his shooting, nothing he does really look great. Doesn’t have great advanced stats either, I would have thought that his shooting talent would at least give him a better impact on the game.

We almost know nothing about Chomche.
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Post#519 » by aminiaturebuddha » Sat Apr 13, 2024 4:46 pm

Psubs wrote:I'm still firm on Tristan DaSilva at the Pacers pick unless reach for Carlton Carrington.

I see DaSilva being like a 6'9 Mo Pete or a Hedo Turkoglu or Ersan Ilyasova.


I'm on the Da Silva bandwagon as well with that pick.

My next preferences would probably be DaRon Holmes and Jared McCain. And part of that would depend on who they take with the lottery pick (if it's retained), and how they're trying to build out the rest of the roster because I like all 3 of those guys, but they do very different things.
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Post#520 » by DG88 » Sat Apr 13, 2024 4:51 pm

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Psubs wrote:I'm still firm on Tristan DaSilva at the Pacers pick unless reach for Carlton Carrington.

I see DaSilva being like a 6'9 Mo Pete or a Hedo Turkoglu or Ersan Ilyasova.


I'm on the Da Silva bandwagon as well with that pick.

My next preferences would probably be DaRon Holmes and Jared McCain. And part of that would depend on who they take with the lottery pick (if it's retained), and how they're trying to build out the rest of the roster because I like all 3 of those guys, but they do very different things.

I'm in the same camp. Da Silva would be perfect with the Pacers pick. If he's not there then getting one of the guards like Devin Carter or Jared McCain would be a good consolation. Then I'd take a flyer on a wing with the Detroit pick.
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