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Tripod wrote:Yeah I pointed out the Thad trade because certain people ignore what SA actually got in return with that 1st instead of the hypothetical best case scenario that was picked later on.
Tripod wrote:tsherkin wrote:Tripod wrote:And what about the ACTUAL guy they got in the Thad deal with their pick? He sucks too.
I don't think anything has landed that well for them lately besides drafting Wemby. Castle is, by some opinions, looking pretty good, so we'll see how he develops. They got 82 games out of Chris Paul, but Wemby missed almost half the season, so it ultimately didn't matter. Because Paul's 39 and could only manage 28 mpg.
DeRozan move didn't work out, but they didn't have a choice with Kawhi. They were sub-.500 during both of what would pass as basically his best individual seasons, because he wasn't a huge impact player. Pivoting from him and moving him to Chicago, he came with what? Al-Farouq Aminu, 2 2nd-rounders and a 1st-rounder this season, right? And then they moved Young for what remained of Goran Dragic, whom they waived. And they got Malaki Branham, right? Nobody player who hit the 3 all right this year for half a season.
Yeah I pointed out the Thad trade because certain people ignore what SA actually got in return with that 1st instead of the hypothetical best case scenario that was picked later on.
mihaic wrote:MiamiSPX wrote:Spurs have that new shiny ROY to offer up.
I know his wife went to university in Houston, and is from California. Coupled with the fact they are awesome places to live (keep in mind she is American) and nothing will dissuade me from thinking those teams have the inside track (Cali and TX teams).
I honestly think Cali is not that great a place to live. Taxes and gas prices on par with Canada, life more expensive than Toronto, and people seem not so nice. Lots of homeless everywhere. 20 years ago it was good, not so much now in my opinion. SF has degraded so much in the last 10-15 years imo.
Florida is much better a.t.m. to be honest, if I had a choice that's where I'd go. Haven't been in a Texas for a long time now so not sure how it is nowadays.
Granted maybe millionaires are shielded somewhat, but they still need to go out when they're living in LA or SF, otherwise... they can move to Cleveland or something. There are some real nice neighborhoods in The Land.
mtcan wrote:navyblue wrote:Same people listing vassell as an asset/good pick, are the same one disparaging RJ barret. Makes no sense.
You mean you have not experienced the toxic behaviour and culture around these boards and quite frankly a good part of the fanbase where we fawn over other teams' players and kids who have never even played an NBA game over our own guys who are actually good players just to sound intelligent by being overly critical of guys we really should be hoping the best for because god forbid we actually cheer for our own team at the risk of being called out as "casuals" and "homers"?
LoveMyRaps wrote:Masai is gonna be very aggressive in his pursuit for Giannis. This might be his last chance to acquire Giannis.
I believe everyone is on the table.
RJ + Poeltl + #8 + Dick + Mogbo + 3 first round picks.
Gotta start there.
Scase wrote:LoveMyRaps wrote:Masai is gonna be very aggressive in his pursuit for Giannis. This might be his last chance to acquire Giannis.
I believe everyone is on the table.
RJ + Poeltl + #8 + Dick + Mogbo + 3 first round picks.
Gotta start there.
Literally every trade will start with Scottie, leaving him out is comical. This is the KD situation all over again, we do not have the assets to acquire AND have a team with any real chance of becoming a contender.
This is what happens when you endlessly retool, and never collect any substantial assets.
Ironically enough, I could see a package being built around BI/RJ. The only argument for that would be since they don't have any of their own picks, they need to be good enough team until they can tank again, kinda like the Nets had to.
But I still see any trade not including Scottie being like a 1% chance.
Ultimately if we were able to get Giannis, the team isn't achieving anything meaningful, and I don't see why he'd want to come to a worse situation than he is already in. The spurs could put together both a better package AND pair him with Wemby, not sure how we compete with that.
AkelaLoneWolf wrote:Scase wrote:LoveMyRaps wrote:Masai is gonna be very aggressive in his pursuit for Giannis. This might be his last chance to acquire Giannis.
I believe everyone is on the table.
RJ + Poeltl + #8 + Dick + Mogbo + 3 first round picks.
Gotta start there.
Literally every trade will start with Scottie, leaving him out is comical. This is the KD situation all over again, we do not have the assets to acquire AND have a team with any real chance of becoming a contender.
This is what happens when you endlessly retool, and never collect any substantial assets.
Ironically enough, I could see a package being built around BI/RJ. The only argument for that would be since they don't have any of their own picks, they need to be good enough team until they can tank again, kinda like the Nets had to.
But I still see any trade not including Scottie being like a 1% chance.
Ultimately if we were able to get Giannis, the team isn't achieving anything meaningful, and I don't see why he'd want to come to a worse situation than he is already in. The spurs could put together both a better package AND pair him with Wemby, not sure how we compete with that.
iq, rj, bi, giannis, poeltl lineup is right up there with knicks level at least.
plus why go to the west when its easier to win in the east.
any trade would center around scottie plus 7th pick and not necessarily give up rj
sidsid wrote:
They have their upcoming picks. I don't think Giannis will approve a trade there, but they are a prime third team candidate to facilitate a bigger trade.
AkelaLoneWolf wrote:Scase wrote:LoveMyRaps wrote:Masai is gonna be very aggressive in his pursuit for Giannis. This might be his last chance to acquire Giannis.
I believe everyone is on the table.
RJ + Poeltl + #8 + Dick + Mogbo + 3 first round picks.
Gotta start there.
Literally every trade will start with Scottie, leaving him out is comical. This is the KD situation all over again, we do not have the assets to acquire AND have a team with any real chance of becoming a contender.
This is what happens when you endlessly retool, and never collect any substantial assets.
Ironically enough, I could see a package being built around BI/RJ. The only argument for that would be since they don't have any of their own picks, they need to be good enough team until they can tank again, kinda like the Nets had to.
But I still see any trade not including Scottie being like a 1% chance.
Ultimately if we were able to get Giannis, the team isn't achieving anything meaningful, and I don't see why he'd want to come to a worse situation than he is already in. The spurs could put together both a better package AND pair him with Wemby, not sure how we compete with that.
iq, rj, bi, giannis, poeltl lineup is right up there with knicks level at least.
plus why go to the west when its easier to win in the east.
any trade would center around scottie plus 7th pick and not necessarily give up rj
mihaic wrote:AkelaLoneWolf wrote:Scase wrote:Literally every trade will start with Scottie, leaving him out is comical. This is the KD situation all over again, we do not have the assets to acquire AND have a team with any real chance of becoming a contender.
This is what happens when you endlessly retool, and never collect any substantial assets.
Ironically enough, I could see a package being built around BI/RJ. The only argument for that would be since they don't have any of their own picks, they need to be good enough team until they can tank again, kinda like the Nets had to.
But I still see any trade not including Scottie being like a 1% chance.
Ultimately if we were able to get Giannis, the team isn't achieving anything meaningful, and I don't see why he'd want to come to a worse situation than he is already in. The spurs could put together both a better package AND pair him with Wemby, not sure how we compete with that.
iq, rj, bi, giannis, poeltl lineup is right up there with knicks level at least.
plus why go to the west when its easier to win in the east.
any trade would center around scottie plus 7th pick and not necessarily give up rj
We need to give up one of rj or iq or Yak (perhaps to a 3rd team) for salary matching. Giannis makes 54m Scottie 38m. I doubt we trade Poeltl.
Scase wrote:AkelaLoneWolf wrote:Scase wrote:Literally every trade will start with Scottie, leaving him out is comical. This is the KD situation all over again, we do not have the assets to acquire AND have a team with any real chance of becoming a contender.
This is what happens when you endlessly retool, and never collect any substantial assets.
Ironically enough, I could see a package being built around BI/RJ. The only argument for that would be since they don't have any of their own picks, they need to be good enough team until they can tank again, kinda like the Nets had to.
But I still see any trade not including Scottie being like a 1% chance.
Ultimately if we were able to get Giannis, the team isn't achieving anything meaningful, and I don't see why he'd want to come to a worse situation than he is already in. The spurs could put together both a better package AND pair him with Wemby, not sure how we compete with that.
iq, rj, bi, giannis, poeltl lineup is right up there with knicks level at least.
plus why go to the west when its easier to win in the east.
any trade would center around scottie plus 7th pick and not necessarily give up rj
That is not Knicks level IMO, Knicks have a multitude of good defensive players, we would have 2 or 3.mihaic wrote:AkelaLoneWolf wrote:iq, rj, bi, giannis, poeltl lineup is right up there with knicks level at least.
plus why go to the west when its easier to win in the east.
any trade would center around scottie plus 7th pick and not necessarily give up rj
We need to give up one of rj or iq or Yak (perhaps to a 3rd team) for salary matching. Giannis makes 54m Scottie 38m. I doubt we trade Poeltl.
It also ignores that the bucks are almost certainly going to try and staple Kuzma to any Giannis trade, so that 54m is now 80m.
LoveMyRaps wrote:
PoopB as a source in 2025
#11 » by ontnut » Tue Apr 29, 2025 6:58 am
Roy T wrote:
CaHgO wrote:
Dame is done, but man oh man, are the Bucks spectacularly f-ed...
I think thats a great opportunity to start a rebuild.
Trade Giannis to a contender and do him right. Get young players and some assets. Tank for 2 seasons and start from scratch.
Pelicans own the Bucks' picks. Not that they're ready to contend, but it would be hilarious to me, and not entirely inconceivable if they trade Zion + Bucks picks back to them for Giannis lol.
PushDaRock wrote:sidsid wrote:
They have their upcoming picks. I don't think Giannis will approve a trade there, but they are a prime third team candidate to facilitate a bigger trade.
They hold the cards because they can make a rebuild possible for the Bucks since they hold the pick swap in 26 and 27. The 27 one is a bit more complicated as the Pelicans get the better pick while the Hawks get the worse one.
Trading Giannis while not having any of their own picks just doesn't make much sense really.
Scase wrote:AkelaLoneWolf wrote:Scase wrote:Literally every trade will start with Scottie, leaving him out is comical. This is the KD situation all over again, we do not have the assets to acquire AND have a team with any real chance of becoming a contender.
This is what happens when you endlessly retool, and never collect any substantial assets.
Ironically enough, I could see a package being built around BI/RJ. The only argument for that would be since they don't have any of their own picks, they need to be good enough team until they can tank again, kinda like the Nets had to.
But I still see any trade not including Scottie being like a 1% chance.
Ultimately if we were able to get Giannis, the team isn't achieving anything meaningful, and I don't see why he'd want to come to a worse situation than he is already in. The spurs could put together both a better package AND pair him with Wemby, not sure how we compete with that.
iq, rj, bi, giannis, poeltl lineup is right up there with knicks level at least.
plus why go to the west when its easier to win in the east.
any trade would center around scottie plus 7th pick and not necessarily give up rj
That is not Knicks level IMO, Knicks have a multitude of good defensive players, we would have 2 or 3.
Pointgod wrote:PushDaRock wrote:sidsid wrote:
They have their upcoming picks. I don't think Giannis will approve a trade there, but they are a prime third team candidate to facilitate a bigger trade.
They hold the cards because they can make a rebuild possible for the Bucks since they hold the pick swap in 26 and 27. The 27 one is a bit more complicated as the Pelicans get the better pick while the Hawks get the worse one.
Trading Giannis while not having any of their own picks just doesn't make much sense really.
It’s pretty simple and the Bucks options are as follows:
- Trade Giannis for a package of established players that ensures they’re still a playoff team.
-Trade Giannis for a heavy pick package (minimum 6 first round picks) to make compensate for the fact that the Bucks won’t have control of their picks until 2031 so tanking is literally the dumbest thing they could do.
-Trade Giannis in a deal that gets them their picks from New Orleans or Portland back. See the point above.
This is why I’ve said New Orleans is a darkhorse since they can trade both Zion and give back Milwaukee control picks in the next 2 years and they’ll have a top lottery pick this year as well. Depending on who goes out they’d still have enough assets to trade for more depth.
