Raptors NBA Draft Thread: Damian Lillard (POR)

[Marvin!]

Considering BC's not even looking at Lamb I'm slowly just accepting that this is our guy.

Not that I have a problem at all with Lillard just annoys me BC isn't doing his homework on Lamb at all and it may turn out to be a SG Rudy Gay situation all over again.

you're pissed off at BC for not doing his homework on Lamb, when the truth is you have no f@cking idea if they are doing homework on Lamb or not... ok

[cdel00]

An O-rating above 130, second best PER in college, NBA size, NBA range, ambidextrous, and an uncomprimising work ethic.

But best of all he's the type of personality that maximizes his situation to improve.

He torched the combine on both ends of the court.

He'll reward the team smart enough to pick him very well. e

[itbobby007]

An O-rating above 130, second best PER in college, NBA size, NBA range, ambidextrous, and an uncomprimising work ethic.

But best of all he's the type of personality that maximizes his situation to improve.

He torched the combine on both ends of the court.

He'll reward the team smart enough to pick him very well. e

cdel00, you should be his agent! I'm leaning towards Lillard and Rivers moreso than Lamb currently. Really hoping Lillard is the pick. I'm also a big fan of the Nash scenario provided we don't go into win now mode and make a Rudy Gay type trade.

[Legal Non-Conforming]

Considering BC's not even looking at Lamb I'm slowly just accepting that this is our guy.

Not that I have a problem at all with Lillard just annoys me BC isn't doing his homework on Lamb at all and it may turn out to be a SG Rudy Gay situation all over again.

you're pissed off at BC for not doing his homework on Lamb, when the truth is you have no f@cking idea if they are doing homework on Lamb or not... ok

Glad someone said it. The ignorance combined with arrogance of the armchair GMs is often breathtaking.

[Boner Champ]

An O-rating above 130, second best PER in college, NBA size, NBA range, ambidextrous, and an uncomprimising work ethic.

But best of all he's the type of personality that maximizes his situation to improve.

He torched the combine on both ends of the court.

He'll reward the team smart enough to pick him very well. e

At his age he should have NBA size and range. You'd almost hope he'd have NBA experience too.

Not that I'd hate him at 8, but it just seems to be, I dunno, settling.

[OAKLEY_2]

Even if both players only had one skill say shooting Lillard would win hands down. Lillard has the mindset to run an offence and he can be a scorer when he has to. Lamb will be under pressure to be a scorer all the time. Lillard is clearly the superior selection. I can hear it now" we were all about to trade the pick but after meeting this young man and scouting him we felt..." I would bet in this draft for all players not named Davis the board is Barnes, Lillard, Waiters, Ross, Harkless, Sullinger.

[fredericklove]

An O-rating above 130, second best PER in college, NBA size, NBA range, ambidextrous, and an uncomprimising work ethic.

But best of all he's the type of personality that maximizes his situation to improve.

He torched the combine on both ends of the court.

He'll reward the team smart enough to pick him very well. e

At his age he should have NBA size and range. You'd almost hope he'd have NBA experience too.


Not that I'd hate him at 8, but it just seems to be, I dunno, settling.

Second best PER in the league resulted from facing crappy competition is not really a big fuss. And combine was pretty much a scrimmage style setting. A lot of combine studs end up crapping on the NBA floor. I'd agree with boner, this doesn't seem right either.

[JamesNaismith]

Even if both players only had one skill say shooting Lillard would win hands down. Lillard has the mindset to run an offence and he can be a scorer when he has to. Lamb will be under pressure to be a scorer all the time. Lillard is clearly the superior selection. I can hear it now" we were all about to trade the pick but after meeting this young man and scouting him we felt..." I would bet in this draft for all players not named Davis the board is Barnes, Lillard, Waiters, Ross, Harkless, Sullinger.

I don't want to turn this into a Lamb vs Lillard discussion because I like both guys but....

I'm not sure how you can say one is "clearly the superior selection"

Lamb has won national championship being a major part of that success (Lillard didn't even get his team into the tourney), Lamb was selected to the FIBA team and did very well leading the team and than you're pointing out that Lamb would be under pressure to be a scorer all the time BUT THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT HE DOES --- SCORE.

He is the TOP scoring wing in the lottery lol

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But back to Lillard, the Teague comparison does worry me a bit but I do know his numbers should be a lot better considering his role would be completely different (as one of the centerpieces vs being used as a complimentary role player). When I look at Teague's numbers there is potential there and if he were playing around his best most games his numbers look like they would resemble a Brandon Jennings but at greater efficiency and obviously you can't really complain about that....IF he were to pan out that way. I think it's completely possible but I'm coming down a notch from buying into some hype where I was really starting to think he was a borderline all-star guard in the making with a ceiling of Tony Parker lol.

[cdel00]

Yawn, if you don't want to believe that all those small check marks equals a stud that's ok.

Personally I love that D Lill feeds off this doubt and pushes himself so hard to prove himself. Day in day out 1 thing is certain Lillard is pounding that rock.

With the eighth pick I'm very happy with Lillard. I think he'll be in the running for ROY and will bust his ass to make it so.

Lemme say it again

With the eighth pick I'm very happy with Lillard. I think he'll be in the running for ROY and will bust his ass to make it so.

Feed him your doubt make him work!

[fredericklove]

Lets hope he pans out like you so confident with your claim. If he doesn't pan out, I am for sure I'll be the first one to trash him for his mediocrity, it'll be worst than what the board is doing to bargs and demar.

[Fenris-77]

Lets hope he pans out like you so confident with your claim. If he doesn't pan out, I am for sure I'll be the first one to trash him for his mediocrity, it'll be worst than what the board is doing to bargs and demar.

That'll happen to any player picked at 8 who struggles though, it's not unique to Lillard.

[cdel00]

Lets hope he pans out like you so confident with your claim. If he doesn't pan out, I am for sure I'll be the first one to trash him for his mediocrity, it'll be worst than what the board is doing to bargs and demar.

R. O. F. L.

E-thuggin

Seriously that shnizzle is so over played.

[team edward]

Lemme say it again

With the eighth pick I'm very happy with Lillard. I think he'll be in the running for ROY and will bust his ass to make it so.

Feed him your doubt make him work!

I would hope he busts his ass and does whatever it is Casey tells him so that we're in the running for a playoff seed in 2013 and home court in 2014. Could care less if he gets ROY and so should he. I have no idea where Lillard really stabnds with respect to that kind of approach (I'm sure he'd say all the right things), but if there's a similarly talented player that better fits that attitude requirement, that's who I want.

[fredericklove]

Lets hope he pans out like you so confident with your claim. If he doesn't pan out, I am for sure I'll be the first one to trash him for his mediocrity, it'll be worst than what the board is doing to bargs and demar.

R. O. F. L.

E-thuggin

Seriously that shnizzle is so over played.

I'm just saying you guys might regret and be ashamed for being so high on a certain prospect IF he does end up being medicore. Not that its a problem, but you do expect alot of people will trash certain player that doesn't pan out. It becomes a custom on this board nowadays nor is it flash news anyways. Vice-versa, I'll regret what I said too if Damian ends up being a top notch point guard in this league. I'm not afraid to show I'm wrong about prospects, especially w/ Bismack. Just saying, be prepared mentally, I'm not the only one that will do this lol.

[CoachJReturns]

I'm not really interested in Lillard. If we pick him I'll be rooting for it to work out, like everyone else, but I'm not very confident in him as our selection. He played weak competition and put up big numbers. Okay, so he can be good, but as a long term solution I'd pass on him. The point guard position is stacked across the NBA and he'll be one of the 10 worst starting point guards, in all likelyhood. That's not getting us anywhere. Damn I hate having the 8th pick.

[fredericklove]

I'm not really interested in Lillard. If we pick him I'll be rooting for it to work out, like everyone else, but I'm not very confident in him as our selection. He played weak competition and put up big numbers. Okay, so he can be good, but as a long term solution I'd pass on him. The point guard position is stacked across the NBA and he'll be one of the 10 worst starting point guards, in all likelyhood. That's not getting us anywhere. Damn I hate having the 8th pick.

And there's a list of PG available in the free agency too. Why force ourselves to draft Lillard because of PG need. I wouldn't be surprised if we end up drafting a wing or a big and then sign Dragic.

[Fenris-77]

And there's a list of PG available in the free agency too. Why force ourselves to draft Lillard because of PG need. I wouldn't be surprised if we end up drafting a wing or a big and then sign Dragic.

Drafting Lillard for need is a terrible idea. At 8 you draft him if you think he's the best guy on the board, but not for any other reason. The Raps absolutely need to stick to BPA this draft. We might disagree about what the BPA is there, but I think we agree completely about the principle involved.

[CoachJReturns]

Yeah, they need to go for BPA. Whether that's the most skilled, the most physically gifted or whatever. But not a pick just to fill a hole. Even if the BPA is a power forward, we need to take them. Trades can always be made later and Amir could be amnestied if necessary.

[dagger]

And there's a list of PG available in the free agency too. Why force ourselves to draft Lillard because of PG need. I wouldn't be surprised if we end up drafting a wing or a big and then sign Dragic.

Drafting Lillard for need is a terrible idea. At 8 you draft him if you think he's the best guy on the board, but not for any other reason. The Raps absolutely need to stick to BPA this draft. We might disagree about what the BPA is there, but I think we agree completely about the principle involved.

The question is whether there is a clearcut BPA when you come to draft. The principle may be sound but in practice, you have to consider all the consequences, including the challenge of unloading surplus talent at a position when everyone knows you are being forced to sell. For example, if we draft a big, I'd postulate that Ed Davis' trade value goes down.

[HolyMage110]

if keeping jose, would lillard learn alot from jose from coming off the bench?