Jonas Valanciunas Summer Discussion II

blocked · Post #521 » by **blocked** » Sun Jul 22, 2012 5:15 pm

Val stats: Jonas Valančiūnas 12 (6/8).
You don't have to be genius to see how running offense through him could make Lithuania much stronger and open up opportunities for the other guys. Lithuanians need some math whiz to show the coach why they loose statistically.

Airball · Post #522 » by **Airball** » Sun Jul 22, 2012 5:26 pm

UcanUwill wrote:(Epic facepalm)

Well, I am glad you're not the coach... Your whole comment is a complete disaster.

First of all, Cizauskas? This is where your evaluation fails. Cizauskas is nowhere close to senior level, and he dominates juniors mainly because he went through puberty when he was 8 or smth... If anyone from 92 who is anywhere close to senior level skill wize, is Edgaras Ulanovas.

Second, D-Mo was invited ok... He had contract issues. Or you think it was a good idea to invite him now? ts a terrible idea. Not to mention D Mo's deuche attitude. You dont invite player who missed the whole practice session and demands guaranteed minutes before even proved anything.

Third, you re talking about rebuilding right after you said Kemzara needed to invite one of the bros? Its exactly what Kemzura is doing - rebuilding. He brought a young team, now you attack him because team has some needed veteran presence?

I don't even bother to name your evaluation when you want to replace Jasikevicius with Ulanovas :roll:

And you called " Motiejunas is not a good basketball player" so I will stop talking with you about player evaluation...

Yea Dmo so bad. His attitude... Lets keep old fart Songaila. Damn Robertas injured...lets invite our CENTER of the future Kavaliauskas :lol:

How it's a rebuild when all old farts came back after Turkey success?
Kemzura is a Clown. His biggest highlight will be training that polish club who just signed him...

Listas · Post #523 » by **Listas** » Sun Jul 22, 2012 6:07 pm

Airball wrote:
UcanUwill wrote:(Epic facepalm)

Well, I am glad you're not the coach... Your whole comment is a complete disaster.

First of all, Cizauskas? This is where your evaluation fails. Cizauskas is nowhere close to senior level, and he dominates juniors mainly because he went through puberty when he was 8 or smth... If anyone from 92 who is anywhere close to senior level skill wize, is Edgaras Ulanovas.

Second, D-Mo was invited ok... He had contract issues. Or you think it was a good idea to invite him now? ts a terrible idea. Not to mention D Mo's deuche attitude. You dont invite player who missed the whole practice session and demands guaranteed minutes before even proved anything.

Third, you re talking about rebuilding right after you said Kemzara needed to invite one of the bros? Its exactly what Kemzura is doing - rebuilding. He brought a young team, now you attack him because team has some needed veteran presence?

I don't even bother to name your evaluation when you want to replace Jasikevicius with Ulanovas
And you called " Motiejunas is not a good basketball player" so I will stop talking with you about player evaluation...

Yea Dmo so bad. His attitude... Lets keep old fart Songaila. Damn Robertas injured...lets invite our CENTER of the future Kavaliauskas

How it's a rebuild when all old farts came back after Turkey success?
Kemzura is a Clown. His biggest highlight will be training that polish club who just signed him...

UcanUwill · Post #524 » by **UcanUwill** » Sun Jul 22, 2012 6:26 pm

I said I want to replace Saras with Ulanovas? I pointed out which player is closest to being a good pro. No, its you who said he wants to replace Saras with junior player... And yes, if I was forced to pick one guy, I would take Ulanovas for sure, Cizauskas cant play at senior level at all. Just because guy can ball in junior level, does not mean hes a better pro. Can't believe I waste time on this, you are typical Internet ''expert''... This is embarrassing. :oops:

And I never question D-Mo's talent, I question his game. And yes, if D-Mo continues playing like he did in the Euroleague this year, I do not want him, sorry.

You have no idea why you even hate Kemzura, one stuff you say compromises the other stuff. The main coach's fault was trusting in young guys, not the opposite... You want one of the bros and yet you hate old guys (old farts by the way :nonono:

)?
Which young player should be there instead? He needed to invite Donatas? Well he WAS invited, he WAS! Its not coaches fault he is not with the team right now.

Airball · Post #525 » by **Airball** » Sun Jul 22, 2012 6:30 pm

"Can't believe I waste time on this, you are typical Internet ''expert''..."
That's just right how I feel about you

UcanUwill · Post #526 » by **UcanUwill** » Sun Jul 22, 2012 6:48 pm

Airball wrote:"Can't believe I waste time on this, you are typical Internet ''expert''..."
That's just right how I feel about you

Yeah, Of course. I mean I let my hate go through by acting like I know everything what is wright and wrong and staying ignorant, judging actual coach completely using my ''superior'' basketball knowledge, saying stupid things which aren't even true or/and compromises other things I say.

8-)

LithuanianOne · Post #527 » by **LithuanianOne** » Sun Jul 22, 2012 8:31 pm

Los Manos wrote:
juostu wrote:Tonight the last final for Jonas' golden generation
Free stream on FIBA website
http://u20men.fibaeurope.com/en/cid_FW2 ... 3-A-1.html

The 'golden generation' don't look quite as golden without Valanciunas. They're 2-3 so far in the under 20's.

Still they won the 5th gold medal o their young careers today beating France in the U - 20 finals.

RPzB · Post #528 » by **RPzB** » Sun Jul 22, 2012 8:31 pm

Airball wrote:"Can't believe I waste time on this, you are typical Internet ''expert''..."
That's just right how I feel about you

Just stop it, you look bad enough already. No need to go even further and destroy yourself completely.

UcanUwill · Post #529 » by **UcanUwill** » Sun Jul 22, 2012 8:36 pm

LithuanianOne wrote:
Los Manos wrote:
juostu wrote:Tonight the last final for Jonas' golden generation
Free stream on FIBA website
http://u20men.fibaeurope.com/en/cid_FW2 ... 3-A-1.html

The 'golden generation' don't look quite as golden without Valanciunas. They're 2-3 so far in the under 20's.

Still they won the 5th gold medal o their young careers today beating France in the U - 20 finals.

Who would've thought 50 points is enough to win a game? First junior team to win absolutely everything? I think so, amazing, historical team.

Westermann had a terrible game, 2/16 shooting, and very disappointing overall tournament, 33.3 FG% and 3 TO's per game is absolutely horrendous.

Laure · Post #530 » by **Laure** » Sun Jul 22, 2012 8:56 pm

I didn't think they would even make the final four without Valanciunas, yet alone winning it all. Heck of a generation this one, great chemistry.

Elastic · Post #531 » by **Elastic** » Sun Jul 22, 2012 9:11 pm

And Westermann was given the MVP...

DA_SCOUT · Post #532 » by **DA_SCOUT** » Sun Jul 22, 2012 9:25 pm

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6IFh4-EjYI[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2fbfM01gWQ[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=560-8N6Krxo&feature=plcp[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Ocpkx9RzwY&feature=plcp[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcIN79PfTiI&feature=plcp[/youtube]

Taeyoung · Post #533 » by **Taeyoung** » Sun Jul 22, 2012 9:43 pm

Thank you Scout, I totally missed the game today lol.

JPHolling · Post #534 » by **JPHolling** » Sun Jul 22, 2012 11:46 pm

final stats for jonas? couldnt find the box score

UcanUwill · Post #535 » by **UcanUwill** » Mon Jul 23, 2012 12:07 am

JPHolling wrote:final stats for jonas? couldnt find the box score

12 points (6/8FG), 3 rebounds in 21 minutes. The most interesting stat, Lithuania lost by 22, but Jonas finished with +4 +/-.

kirkwood · Post #536 » by **kirkwood** » Mon Jul 23, 2012 12:20 am

3 rebounds? bustcinuas

Scraptor · Post #537 » by **Scraptor** » Mon Jul 23, 2012 12:42 am

Since this is one of the few stickied tabs, does anyone know why fredericklove and JamesNaismith were waived?

Those two had a LOT of posts, I'm surprised they were just disappeared like that.

Dweetright · Post #538 » by **Dweetright** » Mon Jul 23, 2012 2:05 am

Why did Jonas ended up with only 3 rebounds tho?

T-Ross the Boss · Post #539 » by **T-Ross the Boss** » Mon Jul 23, 2012 2:10 am

Dweetright wrote:Why did Jonas ended up with only 3 rebounds tho?

Because you touch yourself at night.

CanadaB-Ball · Post #540 » by **CanadaB-Ball** » Mon Jul 23, 2012 2:20 am

kirkwood wrote:3 rebounds? bustcinuas

All in the first-quarter, in which he played its entirety.

After the first, he got some spotty minutes here and there. 10 minutes in the first, and 11 throughout the last three I believe. It would be pretty hard to get a rhythm going playing 3 minutes here, and 3 minutes there.