2023 Draft Prospect discussion

[tripa]

I refuse to support a man named Gradey Dick. Dont care if hes shooting 100%

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Emoni Bates is the bucket-getter off the bench that the Raptors should draft with their 2nd round pick.

Have him prove himself in the G-League and earn a spot in the rotation is probably the best to see if they can get him to produce. Like a Brandon Boston drafted in the 2nd round.

The 1 year of college or pro has helped weed out the Boston's and Bates' from being committed for a team to draft them in the top 10 and stuck with developing them.

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Bates turns 19 next month. With proper guidance by age 25 he has the potential to be like TMac.

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He's an older PG but an A/T of 3 and shooting 50% from 3 on 6 attempts per game and shooting 87.% FT. I good candidate for the 2nd round pick.

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https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/adam-flagler-1.html

[ItsDanger]

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[ItsDanger]

I refuse to support a man named Gradey Dick. Dont care if hes shooting 100%

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[JShuttlesworth]

- Baba Miller
- Gradey Dick
- GG Jackson

All three of these guys are currently projected outside the lottery, and I think all 3 could potentially be lotto picks on draft night

[ItsDanger]

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[Kevin Willis]

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Seriously Gradey looks pretty long. Especially when he gets full extension on his dunks. He might be one of the long bois at 6'8". Put him at SG and call it a day.

[PhilBlackson]

Idk what this board's obsession is with Gradey D lol

I hate to take it there & apologise ahead of time for it but what white American wing that can't defend (other than Luka who's obv European) has gone on to be a top player in the league?! Anybody??? The same people advocating for him will be the same ones that hate on Herro (who is much better with the ball in his hands), Duncan Robinson etc.

There's NO WAY I'd use a lottery pick on him if any of Whitmore, Brandon Miller, Black, Ausar, Baba Miller etc were available & I'd still be higher on any of GG, Walker, Ware long term.

[ItsDanger]

Idk what this board's obsession is with Gradey D lol

I hate to take it there & apologise ahead of time for it but what white American wing that can't defend (other than Luka who's obv European) has gone on to be a top player in the league?! Anybody??? The same people advocating for him will be the same ones that hate on Herro (who is much better with the ball in his hands), Duncan Robinson etc.

There's NO WAY I'd use a lottery pick on him if any of Whitmore, Brandon Miller, Black, Ausar, Baba Miller etc were available & I'd still be higher on any of GG, Walker, Ware long term.

You seriously look at him in 14-20 range though. Great complimentary player. Players who excel off ball are underrated. NOAH can't teach this guy's range.

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Idk what this board's obsession is with Gradey D lol

I hate to take it there & apologise ahead of time for it but what white American wing that can't defend (other than Luka who's obv European) has gone on to be a top player in the league?! Anybody??? The same people advocating for him will be the same ones that hate on Herro (who is much better with the ball in his hands), Duncan Robinson etc.

There's NO WAY I'd use a lottery pick on him if any of Whitmore, Brandon Miller, Black, Ausar, Baba Miller etc were available & I'd still be higher on any of GG, Walker, Ware long term.

You seriously look at him in 14-20 range though. Great complimentary player. Players who excel off ball are underrated. NOAH can't teach this guy's range.

Agreed in that range. He's 6'8 Kevin Huerter and I'd start him over GTJr.

Really though in the top 10, I'd go with either Thompson Twin.

[BoyzNTheHood]

Idk what this board's obsession is with Gradey D lol

I hate to take it there & apologise ahead of time for it but what white American wing that can't defend (other than Luka who's obv European) has gone on to be a top player in the league?! Anybody??? The same people advocating for him will be the same ones that hate on Herro (who is much better with the ball in his hands), Duncan Robinson etc.

There's NO WAY I'd use a lottery pick on him if any of Whitmore, Brandon Miller, Black, Ausar, Baba Miller etc were available & I'd still be higher on any of GG, Walker, Ware long term.

Not sure where you're getting the random Tyler Herro hate comparison from, but okay. Gradey does a lot of what we need. You want more defenders who can't shoot? This team needs shooting above all else. If you can get shooters that fit you get them. If his defense is lacking I'm sure the other 4 defenders around him can help him out. The funniest thing is, after saying all of that we don't even play good defense anymore nor can we shoot. So what do really we have? We might as well try to get guys with a real skill.

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[rapstarter]

Idk what this board's obsession is with Gradey D lol

I hate to take it there & apologise ahead of time for it but what white American wing that can't defend (other than Luka who's obv European) has gone on to be a top player in the league?! Anybody??? The same people advocating for him will be the same ones that hate on Herro (who is much better with the ball in his hands), Duncan Robinson etc.

There's NO WAY I'd use a lottery pick on him if any of Whitmore, Brandon Miller, Black, Ausar, Baba Miller etc were available & I'd still be higher on any of GG, Walker, Ware long term.

Gordon Hayward.

[Jadoogar]

Idk what this board's obsession is with Gradey D lol

I hate to take it there & apologise ahead of time for it but what white American wing that can't defend (other than Luka who's obv European) has gone on to be a top player in the league?! Anybody??? The same people advocating for him will be the same ones that hate on Herro (who is much better with the ball in his hands), Duncan Robinson etc.

There's NO WAY I'd use a lottery pick on him if any of Whitmore, Brandon Miller, Black, Ausar, Baba Miller etc were available & I'd still be higher on any of GG, Walker, Ware long term.

Gordon Hayward?

[T-d0t]

Need to aim higher than Gradey Dick

[macketeer]

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Seriously Gradey looks pretty long. Especially when he gets full extension on his dunks. He might be one of the long bois at 6'8". Put him at SG and call it a day.

Is Gradey Dick a big? We need a big, and someone who can finish around the rim.

[ItsDanger]

I see Gradey as an excellent 3rd/4th option. Question on him is who will he defend, that's who you are in the NBA. Mid 1st round he's going to get a lot of attention because he fits a role in NBA perfectly. If you have your core already, an off ball shooter like this makes more sense than on ball wing scorer.

[Syd-TK3]

Keyonte George

[Dalek]

Keyonte George

Seriously, whoever we draft, we need a high end creator or a franchise big. None of this 6'8 wing with potential. It all means nothing if these guys can't fix what issues we have. Keyonte is one of the best creators, so I am onboard with this, but honestly we should aim for Scoot or Wemby or Amen Thompson.

[PhilBlackson]

Keyonte George

Seriously, whoever we draft, we need a high end creator or a franchise big. None of this 6'8 wing with potential. It all means nothing if these guys can't fix what issues we have. Keyonte is one of the best creators, so I am onboard with this, but honestly we should aim for Scoot or Wemby or Amen Thompson.

If you're putting Amen in there, I'm not sure why you wouldn't have AUSAR too who's also looking like the better shooter of the two...

His potential here would also be pretty droolable (HERE in particular) if (and I'd assume we either would or get close) cleaned up his shooting mechanics because the key thing is it looks like the TOUCH is there. Just like what OG had and I'm ONLY really comparing the touch. But being that they're a similar physical profile, imagine OG was a freakish athlete, with ELITE quickness, came into the league being able to drive to the rim, much faster up & down the court, has already showed more advanced ball skills than OG and had much better court vision/passing ability to come in. I'm sorry even tying his name to OG because his potential DWARFS Anunoby.

But he's basically the same measurements but a freakish athlete that's coming in superior in almost every skill other than possibly shooting. I was unable to find the percentage online but I know I've heard multiple analysts that cover him say they're surprised at how well he's shooting & I know they mentioned the number was somewhere around high 30s (around 40%)....if he has that touch and we just have to clean up mechanics, Ausar would be a MONSTER. Just because he's not Amen, doesn't mean he's a different kind of athlete.

Reminds me almost of the athletic difference between VC (Amen) & TMac (Ausar)...by any normal standard TMac was one of the best athletes in the league but yeah almost anyone next to Vince (Amen) looked/looks fairly average. He can get anywhere he wants on a court, he has some touch, if you clean up the kinks in the lower half like OG had, watch out because Ausar would the potential to be a top 10-15 (I believe could crack top 10) player in the league at some point in his career (if Amen can do likewise, there's no question he could be a top 10 player imo). Those Twins are just different, they just need to get with the right organizations.