2023 Draft Discussion Part 5

[DreamTeam09]

Wallace and Walker are the two drop/fall candidates

[Mark_83]

Coulibaly’s skills are much better than people give him credit for. He has a lot of work to do but you don’t have to lay the foundation and build an entire house with him. He’s a shell of a house. Just need to pick out kitchen cabinets, flooring, and fixtures.

Hopefully the analogy makes sense lol.

I think he’s going to be a stud.

Are there hardwood floors and is there a gas oven?

[docholliday99]

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Damn, boy looking like Yao Lopez out there. If he's got that in the bag he's an NBA player imo.

Have to be careful analyzing non-competitive shooting drills, in game pressure is quite different; this was Ben last year......

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[docholliday99]

Why's that? Gut?

For myself I see Scoot as a bust, he has shades of DSJ for me.

I'm pretty low on Scoot too. You have to bring a lot to the table to be a scoring guard who doesn't shoot well and doesn't play defense. This guy is getting compared to prime Westbrook but he can't lick Westbrook's shoes athletically. That's like comparing Auser to Amen athletically in this draft.

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Hes clearly got some skills at his age....Thing people forget is how raw Sikam was as a 22 year old rookie...Scoot is just 19 and already is ways ahead of what a Siakam/FVV were coming into the league and look at them now they are the 1st and 2nd options on our team...

Im pretty confident if we develop Scoot or even Miller the right way they both have a chance to be much better than Siakam....plus whichever player we could potentially get could grow with Barnes...

Development and working hard is all either Scoot , Miller need cause they are both really talented at their ages.

No denying Scoot/Miller's talent but I'm not sure Siakam is the right comparison. Over 34 games as a sophomore at New Mexico, PS average 20 / 11.6 (3.9 off) with a steal and 2.2 blocks a game with really good defense. He had 68 college games under his belt when he was drafted. I'm not sure raw is the right word but he certainly had some areas to improve upon.

Scoot has a lot of hype and definitely has talent but who doesn't in the first round every year? He just reminds me a lot of DSJ, similar scoring stats, both struggled with defense, both with a lot of hype. I'm sure DSJ worked hard too, that just isn't always enough.

[gbball]

Nice writeup on Coulibaly.

“It’s his first year as a pro, so we had to go slowly,” explains Collet. “Everything looks easy when you watch him play. He is graceful. Bilal has been blessed with superior athletic abilities. He learns fast, he is smart, he feels the game, you tell him something once and he gets it. Bilal has a ways to go but he is gifted.”

Coulibaly’s relationship with basketball is the typical Euro prospect story. Rejected by soccer (because the team was full), he fell in love with the orange ball at first sight—he was 10 years old at the time, playing for Courbevoie. “My first mentor was Manu De Carvalho. He coached Evan Fournier, he taught me everything I know,” says Coulibaly.

“Bilal is one of the most talented players I have had the chance to coach,” explains De Carvalho. “He is smart, he works, he is humble, he has that drive to become a beautiful player. In my team, he could score 40, 50 points easily. I challenged him all the time. During this quarter, you will only be able to use your left hand. During the next quarter, you will only make plays for your teammates.”

One of the things that had me so high on Shaedon Sharpe last year (and still) is that he seemed to be a quick study while having a good grasp of nuance to go along with his freakish athleticism and promising skillset. Coach Cal was also raving about his potential too and the things he was doing in practice.

By all accounts Coulibaly is similar. For guys with good tools, a solid foundation of skill and are willing to put in the work, the sky's the limit.

https://www.slamonline.com/the-magazine/bilal-coulibaly/

[Tofubeque]

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Fluid athlete in open flood

Good in transition? Welcome to the Raptors

[gbball]

I'm pretty low on Scoot too. You have to bring a lot to the table to be a scoring guard who doesn't shoot well and doesn't play defense. This guy is getting compared to prime Westbrook but he can't lick Westbrook's shoes athletically. That's like comparing Auser to Amen athletically in this draft.

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Hes clearly got some skills at his age....Thing people forget is how raw Sikam was as a 22 year old rookie...Scoot is just 19 and already is ways ahead of what a Siakam/FVV were coming into the league and look at them now they are the 1st and 2nd options on our team...

Im pretty confident if we develop Scoot or even Miller the right way they both have a chance to be much better than Siakam....plus whichever player we could potentially get could grow with Barnes...

Development and working hard is all either Scoot , Miller need cause they are both really talented at their ages.

No denying Scoot/Miller's talent but I'm not sure Siakam is the right comparison. Over 34 games as a sophomore at New Mexico, PS average 20 / 11.6 (3.9 off) with a steal and 2.2 blocks a game with really good defense. He had 68 college games under his belt when he was drafted. I'm not sure raw is the right word but he certainly had some areas to improve upon.

Scoot has a lot of hype and definitely has talent but who doesn't in the first round every year? He just reminds me a lot of DSJ, similar scoring stats, both struggled with defense, both with a lot of hype. I'm sure DSJ worked hard too, that just isn't always enough.

Like you, I'm not as high on Scoot as I was last year. He's a good athlete like Suggs was, but not special like Westbrook or even pre-injury DSJ. He's built well though and I'm sure he'll be better than DSJ, but I don't know if he's going to be that great.

I'm reminded of guys like Bill Walker and OJ Mayo who were hyped up a lot coming into the NBA, but peaked too early and never really took another step once they got to the league.

For Scoot, it will come down to his shooting, playmaking and decision making for him to live up to the hype.

[DG88]

Bilal and Wemby playing now for those who want to watch
https://www.nba.com/watch/event/game-lnb-betclic-elite-boulonge-levallois-vs-cholet

[HumbleRen]

Bilal and Wemby playing now for those who want to watch
https://www.nba.com/watch/event/game-lnb-betclic-elite-boulonge-levallois-vs-cholet

Victor is something else man. Jesus.

[Psubs]

Bilal and Wemby playing now for those who want to watch
https://www.nba.com/watch/event/game-lnb-betclic-elite-boulonge-levallois-vs-cholet

Is there no one playing for Cholet over 6'8?

[BoyzNTheHood]

Wemby is forcing the issue a lot. The game seems over but still..

[Psubs]

Bilal and Wemby playing now for those who want to watch
https://www.nba.com/watch/event/game-lnb-betclic-elite-boulonge-levallois-vs-cholet

Victor is something else man. Jesus.

He's so weak but should be at least Kristaps Porzingis. But not sure how much better?

NY didn't want to pay Porzingis? Dallas dumped him for Dinwiddie! lol

[ItsDanger]

Wemby will get challenged physically in the NBA by stronger players. Can he handle it? That would be my strategy, wear him down physically in the post.

[HumbleRen]

Bilal and Wemby playing now for those who want to watch
https://www.nba.com/watch/event/game-lnb-betclic-elite-boulonge-levallois-vs-cholet

Victor is something else man. Jesus.

He's so weak but should be at least Kristaps Porzingis. But not sure how much better?

NY didn't want to pay Porzingis? Dallas dumped him for Dinwiddie! lol

Significantly better lol.

[REJECTEDBYCLARK]

There was an interview I saw with Scoot that scares me where he said that he's a complete player and ready for the NBA and it gave off the vibe that he thinks he's already a god-tier player which clearly isn't the case. Even though his g-league coach raves about his work ethic I mean every coach tries to hype up their players. I wonder if Scoot has the drive to be great or not, I guess it's up to front offices to figure that out. The framework is there but his shooting and defensive consistency needs to improve. If you're being talked about as a generational talent you better be shooting the 3 ball at 36%+ as a guard and get your FT% over 80%.

I think Scoot is another example of a kid who needs a good organization to bring him along. I'm not worried about where a guy like Cason Wallace ends up but Scoot needs to be kept on the right path and pushed in order for him to realize his potential. If he ends up with the kind of shooting percentages Ja Morant puts up it will be extremely disappointing.

[Psubs]

There was an interview I saw with Scoot that scares me where he said that he's a complete player and ready for the NBA and it gave off the vibe that he thinks he's already a god-tier player which clearly isn't the case. Even though his g-league coach raves about his work ethic I mean every coach tries to hype up their players. I wonder if Scoot has the drive to be great or not, I guess it's up to front offices to figure that out. The framework is there but his shooting and defensive consistency needs to improve. If you're being talked about as a generational talent you better be shooting the 3 ball at 36%+ as a guard and get your FT% over 80%.

I think Scoot is another example of a kid who needs a good organization to bring him along. I'm not worried about where a guy like Cason Wallace ends up but Scoot needs to be kept on the right path and pushed in order for him to realize his potential. If he ends up with the kind of shooting percentages Ja Morant puts up it will be extremely disappointing.

I think that his ceiling is John Wall, who was a #1 pick. Wall also wasn't a great 3pt shooter but did most things really good.

[HumbleRen]

There was an interview I saw with Scoot that scares me where he said that he's a complete player and ready for the NBA and it gave off the vibe that he thinks he's already a god-tier player which clearly isn't the case. Even though his g-league coach raves about his work ethic I mean every coach tries to hype up their players. I wonder if Scoot has the drive to be great or not, I guess it's up to front offices to figure that out. The framework is there but his shooting and defensive consistency needs to improve. If you're being talked about as a generational talent you better be shooting the 3 ball at 36%+ as a guard and get your FT% over 80%.

I think Scoot is another example of a kid who needs a good organization to bring him along. I'm not worried about where a guy like Cason Wallace ends up but Scoot needs to be kept on the right path and pushed in order for him to realize his potential. If he ends up with the kind of shooting percentages Ja Morant puts up it will be extremely disappointing.

He's not a generational prospect.

[Psubs]

Victor is something else man. Jesus.

He's so weak but should be at least Kristaps Porzingis. But not sure how much better?

NY didn't want to pay Porzingis? Dallas dumped him for Dinwiddie! lol

Significantly better lol.

I guess but if you just zone him up and soft double team him with 2 guys over 6'8, that might be enough.

I guess his development arc could be like Giannis if he's able to get stronger.

[HumbleRen]

He's so weak but should be at least Kristaps Porzingis. But not sure how much better?

NY didn't want to pay Porzingis? Dallas dumped him for Dinwiddie! lol

Significantly better lol.

I guess but if you just zone him up and soft double team him with 2 guys over 6'8, that might be enough.

I guess his development arc could be like Giannis if he's able to get stronger.

That's what it is to me.

I don't expect him to be like Lebron and immediately be a top 30 player in the league. He's going to follow the Giannis arc except coming into the league way more polished.

His ceiling is dependent on if he could put on muscle mass.

[ItsDanger]

Scoot has all the physical tools you'd want in a PG. Glaring weakness is a perimeter shot but not unlike many other prospects. De'Aaron Fox is my comparison for him and he didn't have good perimeter shot at Kentucky either.