WT: Giannis Antetokounmpo's Future With Bucks 'The Elephant In The Room' In NBA

[Pointgod]

Masai is gonna be very aggressive in his pursuit for Giannis. This might be his last chance to acquire Giannis.

I believe everyone is on the table.

RJ + Poeltl + #8 + Dick + Mogbo + 3 first round picks.

Gotta start there.

Literally every trade will start with Scottie, leaving him out is comical. This is the KD situation all over again, we do not have the assets to acquire AND have a team with any real chance of becoming a contender.

This is what happens when you endlessly retool, and never collect any substantial assets.

Ironically enough, I could see a package being built around BI/RJ. The only argument for that would be since they don't have any of their own picks, they need to be good enough team until they can tank again, kinda like the Nets had to.

But I still see any trade not including Scottie being like a 1% chance.

Ultimately if we were able to get Giannis, the team isn't achieving anything meaningful, and I don't see why he'd want to come to a worse situation than he is already in. The spurs could put together both a better package AND pair him with Wemby, not sure how we compete with that.

It comes down to us lucking into getting Cooper Flagg whether or not we have a team around Giannis. I think with the first pick, you don’t trade it and just throw everything and the kitchen sink at Milwaukee and then trade Ingram later on for more depth. I think at a minimum Milwaukee asks for Barnes, Poeltl and Grady Dick plus all the picks and swaps we can offer. That team still has some depth with Flagg as your ace in the hole to develop into an allstar

[Pointgod]

They hold the cards because they can make a rebuild possible for the Bucks since they hold the pick swap in 26 and 27. The 27 one is a bit more complicated as the Pelicans get the better pick while the Hawks get the worse one.

Trading Giannis while not having any of their own picks just doesn't make much sense really.

It’s pretty simple and the Bucks options are as follows:

- Trade Giannis for a package of established players that ensures they’re still a playoff team.
-Trade Giannis for a heavy pick package (minimum 6 first round picks) to make compensate for the fact that the Bucks won’t have control of their picks until 2031 so tanking is literally the dumbest thing they could do.
-Trade Giannis in a deal that gets them their picks from New Orleans or Portland back. See the point above.

This is why I’ve said New Orleans is a darkhorse since they can trade both Zion and give back Milwaukee control picks in the next 2 years and they’ll have a top lottery pick this year as well. Depending on who goes out they’d still have enough assets to trade for more depth.

There's no trade out there that keeps them a playoff team after moving Giannis.

KAT, Mikal Bridges plus whatever for Giannis certainly does.

[PushDaRock]

It’s pretty simple and the Bucks options are as follows:

- Trade Giannis for a package of established players that ensures they’re still a playoff team.
-Trade Giannis for a heavy pick package (minimum 6 first round picks) to make compensate for the fact that the Bucks won’t have control of their picks until 2031 so tanking is literally the dumbest thing they could do.
-Trade Giannis in a deal that gets them their picks from New Orleans or Portland back. See the point above.

This is why I’ve said New Orleans is a darkhorse since they can trade both Zion and give back Milwaukee control picks in the next 2 years and they’ll have a top lottery pick this year as well. Depending on who goes out they’d still have enough assets to trade for more depth.

There's no trade out there that keeps them a playoff team after moving Giannis.

KAT, Mikal Bridges plus whatever for Giannis certainly does.

That's not a Playoff team.

[Pointgod]

There's no trade out there that keeps them a playoff team after moving Giannis.

KAT, Mikal Bridges plus whatever for Giannis certainly does.

That's not a Playoff team.

Yes two of the top 4 players from a top 3 team in the East isn’t good enough to make the playoffs in the dog **** East. Let me remind you, the Miami Heat made the playoffs.

[PushDaRock]

KAT, Mikal Bridges plus whatever for Giannis certainly does.

That's not a Playoff team.

Yes two of the top 4 players from a top 3 team in the East isn’t good enough to make the playoffs in the dog **** East. Let me remind you, the Miami Heat made the playoffs.

The Heat were a Play-In team. Playoff Team = Top 6.

I would also take that Heat roster over Kat + Bridges + Bunch of Scrubs and Dame eating up 55m and out for the year.

[Pointgod]

That's not a Playoff team.

Yes two of the top 4 players from a top 3 team in the East isn’t good enough to make the playoffs in the dog **** East. Let me remind you, the Miami Heat made the playoffs.

The Heat were a Play-In team. Playoff Team = Top 6.

I would also take that Heat roster over Kat + Bridges + Bunch of Scrubs and Dame eating up 55m and out for the year.

Distinction without a difference. The point is that of they don’t want to tank, there are deals out there that keeps them from being the worst team in the league and that’s an option.

[PushDaRock]

Yes two of the top 4 players from a top 3 team in the East isn’t good enough to make the playoffs in the dog **** East. Let me remind you, the Miami Heat made the playoffs.

The Heat were a Play-In team. Playoff Team = Top 6.

I would also take that Heat roster over Kat + Bridges + Bunch of Scrubs and Dame eating up 55m and out for the year.

Distinction without a difference. The point is that of they don’t want to tank, there are deals out there that keeps them from being the worst team in the league and that’s an option.

If they think potentially sneaking into the Play-In is a worthy goal, sure that's an option.

[metafisical]

Masai is gonna be very aggressive in his pursuit for Giannis. This might be his last chance to acquire Giannis.

I believe everyone is on the table.

RJ + Poeltl + #8 + Dick + Mogbo + 3 first round picks.

Gotta start there.

RJ + Poeltl + Dick + 2 2nds for Giannis + 3 unprotected 1sts.

[Purple+Black]

Why is everyone trying to skirt around trading Scottie in a prospective deal. Scottie + Giannis is pretty redundant, and if you think you can get Giannis without either trading Scottie or a lucky #1 pick, you are being delusional.

Throw Scottie+Jakobe+Picks/Swaps.

Then keep IQ, Ochai, Dick, Ingram because they all fit well around Giannis

Trade RJ, Poeltl for a solid stretch big and good bench strength/3&D roleplayers.

IQ/Shead
3&D experienced starting SG/Ochai
Brandon Ingram/Gradey Dick
Giannis/Mogbo
Stretch Big/Bench C/Mogbo

I think you have a competitive team there.

[DreamTeam09]

Thank goodness for Masai

[hype_2004]

Masai is gonna be very aggressive in his pursuit for Giannis. This might be his last chance to acquire Giannis.

I believe everyone is on the table.

RJ + Poeltl + #8 + Dick + Mogbo + 3 first round picks.

Gotta start there.

RJ + Poeltl + Dick + 2 2nds for Giannis + 3 unprotected 1sts.

Pipedream the starting point will revolve around Scottie, fillers plus draft picks

[TheRaptor!]

Masai is gonna be very aggressive in his pursuit for Giannis. This might be his last chance to acquire Giannis.

I believe everyone is on the table.

RJ + Poeltl + #8 + Dick + Mogbo + 3 first round picks.

Gotta start there.

RJ + Poeltl + Dick + 2 2nds for Giannis + 3 unprotected 1sts.

Pipedream the starting point will revolve around Scottie, fillers plus draft picks

They play the same position anyway, it would be ideal to trade Scottie

[djsunyc]

indy is a good trading partner for the bucks

[Vtop]

Do not see this working unless Giannis can attract another star. Masai will try his best no doubt.

[AkelaLoneWolf]

you look at the games today, you NEED a generational superstar to win. not sure the hesitation about trading for giannis even if it means trading scottie.

[AkelaLoneWolf]

indy is a good trading partner for the bucks

not without gutting their depth and assuming they bring turner back, cap hell.

[Nebuchadnezzar]

Do not see this working unless Giannis can attract another star. Masai will try his best no doubt.

BI is perfect

[bballsparkin]

you look at the games today, you NEED a generational superstar to win. not sure the hesitation about trading for giannis even if it means trading scottie.

As long as they don't mortgage 7 years of picks I'm game.

[Scase]

iq, rj, bi, giannis, poeltl lineup is right up there with knicks level at least.
plus why go to the west when its easier to win in the east.
any trade would center around scottie plus 7th pick and not necessarily give up rj

That is not Knicks level IMO, Knicks have a multitude of good defensive players, we would have 2 or 3.

We need to give up one of rj or iq or Yak (perhaps to a 3rd team) for salary matching. Giannis makes 54m Scottie 38m. I doubt we trade Poeltl.

It also ignores that the bucks are almost certainly going to try and staple Kuzma to any Giannis trade, so that 54m is now 80m.

Bucks have zero leverage, they most likely won't be dictating things like that.

Zero leverage? They have Giannis on a contract with 2 + a PO, that is plenty of leverage, they aren't the raptors with multiple players on expirings, they have leverage.

[Vtop]

Do not see this working unless Giannis can attract another star. Masai will try his best no doubt.

BI is perfect

Does Giannis agree?