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Raps in 4 wrote:PhilBlackson wrote:Bobby did mention he made a call about Kyrie...
Tbh I don't even think I would like the fit of Kyrie here lol
Just for the sake of thinking what that trade would look like and the line up after (Lowry + Powell + unprotected pick)
Irving
DeRozan
Miles
Ibaka
Valanciunas
We get worse. Lowry is better than Irving.
Double Helix wrote:This is classic Dan Gilbert. He lets you taste the Quicken Loan and then he jacks the price up.
RonaldArtest wrote:They rescind this deal and the cavs still win. They'll get a nice return for Kyrie, though probably not as great as the Boston package with that BKN pick. But the point is he's easily tradeable.
The celts bring back IT who will be extremely demoralized, plus his value will be depleted with all the talk about his hip. I heard even his wife helped recruit GH's wife, so being moved and then sent back should be fun to watch from afar.
Not to mention Crowder, who is no star player but a damn good role player on a steal of a contract. He'll almost certainly have to be moved given all the history with GH, and he's at least a player capable of keeping up with the Lebrons, Durants, Georges, etc. Now he'll be traded separately for peanuts if the celts don't offer IT compensation.
Even though it's risky to lose that BKN pick it seems the cavs are in the drivers seat here. Will be interesting seeing what they choose to do. Keep the Boston package as is if Ainge won't budge, and keep it mainly for the BKN pick. Or rescind the deal based on the physical and Boston unwilling to compensate, and try to get different win-now pieces to appease Lebron, knowing it's unlikely to get another pick like the one Boston traded them. Fun times.
raf1995 wrote:I just don’t think he has that kind of potential. I think we will regret not trading him for a haul in a few years when he’s a mid-tier starter with nice playmaking and defense and a shaky jumper.
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yodamaster wrote:RonaldArtest wrote:They rescind this deal and the cavs still win. They'll get a nice return for Kyrie, though probably not as great as the Boston package with that BKN pick. But the point is he's easily tradeable.
The celts bring back IT who will be extremely demoralized, plus his value will be depleted with all the talk about his hip. I heard even his wife helped recruit GH's wife, so being moved and then sent back should be fun to watch from afar.
Not to mention Crowder, who is no star player but a damn good role player on a steal of a contract. He'll almost certainly have to be moved given all the history with GH, and he's at least a player capable of keeping up with the Lebrons, Durants, Georges, etc. Now he'll be traded separately for peanuts if the celts don't offer IT compensation.
Even though it's risky to lose that BKN pick it seems the cavs are in the drivers seat here. Will be interesting seeing what they choose to do. Keep the Boston package as is if Ainge won't budge, and keep it mainly for the BKN pick. Or rescind the deal based on the physical and Boston unwilling to compensate, and try to get different win-now pieces to appease Lebron, knowing it's unlikely to get another pick like the one Boston traded them. Fun times.
As much as I hate Celts, I hate Dan Gilbert as NBA owner more. Best scenario is deal gets canned, cavs are in disarray for most of season as trade rumour swirls, Celtics lose team cohesion as its best player is unmotivated... then celtics get top 3 pick next year and cavs somehow lose kyrie for peanuts due to dan gilbert's intervetion...
DreamTeam09 wrote:Boston will cave and throw in a couple of 2nds or maybe replace Ziczic with Rozier or something. No way they can bring back both IT n Crowder now, but Cavs and rescind the deal and trade kyrie elsewhere
Raps in 4 wrote:DreamTeam09 wrote:Boston will cave and throw in a couple of 2nds or maybe replace Ziczic with Rozier or something. No way they can bring back both IT n Crowder now, but Cavs and rescind the deal and trade kyrie elsewhere
Ainge should throw Tatum in there too. He needs to save face.
mtcan wrote:My feeling is that Cleveland knew IT would fail his physical. Everyone knows that Thomas elected for no surgery and that the issue is still there. Cleveland knew this and decided to agree anyways, with the expectation that IT's hip issue would come out and that would either nullify the deal and send an unhappy IT back to Boston...or force Boston's hand to squeeze more assets out of them.