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Re: Official Immanuel Quickley Thread 

Post#541 » by dozo » Tue Jan 16, 2024 3:57 am

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He hit 6 3's today.... He's younger, faster, can finish at the rim etc.. It's a poor version of the real deal which is ok I guess.. Let's hope we don't go crazy and give him too much money


I would wait until next year to see what IQ will be. KLow came off the bench his 1st year as a Raptor.

Maxey is special. Check out this dunk in traffic.

https://youtu.be/TVV6XywKGbw?si=5dKF_vqb2uQ4ux73


Can't really wait until next year. He's a restricted free agent this off-season. They'll need to give him a contract of some sort. The question is how much and for how long.


From what I read he's looking for 25 mil per. The last year of the contract will probably have a player option.
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Re: Official Immanuel Quickley Thread 

Post#542 » by Starr1 » Tue Jan 16, 2024 4:19 am

dozo wrote:
aminiaturebuddha wrote:
dozo wrote:
I would wait until next year to see what IQ will be. KLow came off the bench his 1st year as a Raptor.

Maxey is special. Check out this dunk in traffic.

https://youtu.be/TVV6XywKGbw?si=5dKF_vqb2uQ4ux73


Can't really wait until next year. He's a restricted free agent this off-season. They'll need to give him a contract of some sort. The question is how much and for how long.


From what I read he's looking for 25 mil per. The last year of the contract will probably have a player option.

$25m for a player who can’t distribute or do proper PG duties? I hope not honestly.
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Re: Official Immanuel Quickley Thread 

Post#543 » by Badonkadonk » Tue Jan 16, 2024 4:22 am

Starr1 wrote:
dozo wrote:
aminiaturebuddha wrote:
Can't really wait until next year. He's a restricted free agent this off-season. They'll need to give him a contract of some sort. The question is how much and for how long.


From what I read he's looking for 25 mil per. The last year of the contract will probably have a player option.

$25m for a player who can’t distribute or do proper PG duties? I hope not honestly.

Current luxury tax threshold is $165M.

$25M is just NBA starter money now. He'll get it easily.
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Re: Official Immanuel Quickley Thread 

Post#544 » by HumbleRen » Tue Jan 16, 2024 4:26 am

Starr1 wrote:
dozo wrote:
aminiaturebuddha wrote:
Can't really wait until next year. He's a restricted free agent this off-season. They'll need to give him a contract of some sort. The question is how much and for how long.


From what I read he's looking for 25 mil per. The last year of the contract will probably have a player option.

$25m for a player who can’t distribute or do proper PG duties? I hope not honestly.


25M per year for a guard that can give you 20/5/5 on elite 3 point shooting is a steal.
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Re: Official Immanuel Quickley Thread 

Post#545 » by DatHomieYouHaTe » Tue Jan 16, 2024 5:33 am

dozo wrote:
aminiaturebuddha wrote:
dozo wrote:
I would wait until next year to see what IQ will be. KLow came off the bench his 1st year as a Raptor.

Maxey is special. Check out this dunk in traffic.

https://youtu.be/TVV6XywKGbw?si=5dKF_vqb2uQ4ux73


Can't really wait until next year. He's a restricted free agent this off-season. They'll need to give him a contract of some sort. The question is how much and for how long.


From what I read he's looking for 25 mil per. The last year of the contract will probably have a player option.



He's looking for it... Let's hope he doesn't find it.... lol
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Re: Official Immanuel Quickley Thread 

Post#546 » by seanbig » Tue Jan 16, 2024 5:35 am

I like him but he’s not the man in the fourth - just momentum killing missed layups

He’s no maxey
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Post#547 » by Statistician MK » Tue Jan 16, 2024 12:00 pm

Immanuel Quickley, this season

With the Knicks:
15.0 pts per game (3pt ... 39.5%)
2.6 reb per game
2.5 ast per game


With the Raptors:
18.9 pts per game (3pt ... 46.9%)
4.6 reb per game
5.0 ast per game
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Re: Official Immanuel Quickley Thread 

Post#548 » by OakleyDokely » Tue Jan 16, 2024 12:53 pm

DatHomieYouHaTe wrote:
dozo wrote:
aminiaturebuddha wrote:
Can't really wait until next year. He's a restricted free agent this off-season. They'll need to give him a contract of some sort. The question is how much and for how long.


From what I read he's looking for 25 mil per. The last year of the contract will probably have a player option.



He's looking for it... Let's hope he doesn't find it.... lol


25M isn't a lot anymore.

Vassell got 5/135. McDaniels got 5/131. Poole got 4/128. Herro 4/120. Murray 4/114. That's the going rate for the players below the max tier.

IQ is a pretty good bet for 20/5/5 (at a minimum) on solid efficiency and that's well worth 25M in the current market, especially considering you're getting him in his prime. The Raps would be smart to lock him up to a 5 year, 25 mill a year deal because that contract will be a steal a year or two into it with a rising cap.

Don't know why there's so much discussion about Maxey either. He's going to get the max next season.
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Re: Official Immanuel Quickley Thread 

Post#549 » by Statistician MK » Tue Jan 16, 2024 1:21 pm

Immanuel Quickley for 25M?
Definitely yes!

We have Poeltl for 19.5M, Trent Jr. for 18.56M, Boucher for 11.75M...

The prices for the players will go up, from year to year!
If we don't pay 25M for IQ, many other teams would pay it!
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Re: Official Immanuel Quickley Thread 

Post#550 » by alpngso » Tue Jan 16, 2024 2:25 pm

Devin Vassell signed rookie ext for 5/135+11M. Not even sure 25M is an overpay for Quickley if he keeps up
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Post#551 » by StopitLeo » Tue Jan 16, 2024 2:43 pm

The $25M number came up when he was with the Knicks. I think that is probably low if he’s your starting point guard moving forward since it represents only 18% of the cap. At minimum you’d probably have to start him around 20%, which is $28M. That’s what we gave Lowry if you want to draw parallels.
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Re: Official Immanuel Quickley Thread 

Post#552 » by Psubs » Tue Jan 16, 2024 2:53 pm

Statistician MK wrote:Immanuel Quickley for 25M?
Definitely yes!

We have Poeltl for 19.5M, Trent Jr. for 18.56M, Boucher for 11.75M...

The prices for the players will go up, from year to year!
If we don't pay 25M for IQ, many other teams would pay it!


25-27-29-32 (team option) sounds good
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Re: Official Immanuel Quickley Thread 

Post#553 » by AkelaLoneWolf » Tue Jan 16, 2024 2:55 pm

StopitLeo wrote:The $25M number came up when he was with the Knicks. I think that is probably low if he’s your starting point guard moving forward since it represents only 18% of the cap. At minimum you’d probably have to start him around 20%, which is $28M. That’s what we gave Lowry if you want to draw parallels.

I thought the max he could be signed for was 25M per year.
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Re: Official Immanuel Quickley Thread 

Post#554 » by ash_k » Tue Jan 16, 2024 2:59 pm

seanbig wrote:I like him but he’s not the man in the fourth - just momentum killing missed layups

He’s no maxey

At the moment, I am more confident in his floaters than layups
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Post#555 » by Tha Cynic » Tue Jan 16, 2024 3:14 pm

Fact is, players do have to adjust to being fouled and not getting calls when attacking the rack with the Raptors. It is what it is. We don't get calls when attacking that other teams get and this team lives in the paint.
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Post#556 » by HumbleRen » Tue Jan 16, 2024 3:24 pm

Tha Cynic wrote:Fact is, players do have to adjust to being fouled and not getting calls when attacking the rack with the Raptors. It is what it is. We don't get calls when attacking that other teams get and this team lives in the paint.



RJ Barrett was getting 5 FT’s a game with the Knicks this season, down to 3.6 with us.

That’s in spite of getting to the rim more than ever and finishing at an elite rate lol.
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Post#557 » by OakleyDokely » Tue Jan 16, 2024 3:33 pm

HumbleRen wrote:
Tha Cynic wrote:Fact is, players do have to adjust to being fouled and not getting calls when attacking the rack with the Raptors. It is what it is. We don't get calls when attacking that other teams get and this team lives in the paint.



RJ Barrett was getting 5 FT’s a game with the Knicks this season, down to 3.6 with us.

That’s in spite of getting to the rim more than ever and finishing at an elite rate lol.


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Per 36, FT attempts
With the Lakers: 4.6
With the Raptors 3.3

Schroder's 3.3 attempts per 36 this season is the lowest of his entire career if you don't count his rookie season when he barely played.

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Post#558 » by Fairview4Life » Tue Jan 16, 2024 3:33 pm

HumbleRen wrote:
Tha Cynic wrote:Fact is, players do have to adjust to being fouled and not getting calls when attacking the rack with the Raptors. It is what it is. We don't get calls when attacking that other teams get and this team lives in the paint.



RJ Barrett was getting 5 FT’s a game with the Knicks this season, down to 3.6 with us.

That’s in spite of getting to the rim more than ever and finishing at an elite rate lol.


His FTr was 0.320 in NY and....0.266 in Toronto. The lowest of his career since 20/21. Despite the % of his FGA's from 0-3 ft. being the same, his % of FGA's between 3-10 feet going up ~ 12% in Toronto, his shooting from 10-16, 16-3P and 3P %'s going down ~ 6.5%, 2%, and 2% respectively.

Basically he has been shooting more shots closer to the basket ( < 10 feet) and picking up fewer fouls. Weird. How can we ever explain that.
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Re: Official Immanuel Quickley Thread 

Post#559 » by Tha Cynic » Tue Jan 16, 2024 3:46 pm

OakleyDokely wrote:
HumbleRen wrote:
Tha Cynic wrote:Fact is, players do have to adjust to being fouled and not getting calls when attacking the rack with the Raptors. It is what it is. We don't get calls when attacking that other teams get and this team lives in the paint.



RJ Barrett was getting 5 FT’s a game with the Knicks this season, down to 3.6 with us.

That’s in spite of getting to the rim more than ever and finishing at an elite rate lol.


Schroeder:

Per 36, FT attempts
With the Lakers: 4.6
With the Raptors 3.3

Schroder's 3.3 attempts per 36 this season is the lowest of his entire career if you don't count his rookie season when he barely played.

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This team's offense focuses a lot on driving downhill and putting pressure at the rim. We routinely kill our opponents in points in the paint. It's very clear we're working from a disadvantage because of the way we are reffed. Masai has said they track these things and know how many calls we get vs others. It's not going to change imo. The Raptors are not considered a marquee team due to being in Canada.

Now if you can see this is how things works, should we actually change our strategy to be more of a 3 point shooting team and maybe even start taking more midrange jumpers? Maybe this strategy of taking the ball to the hoop isn't something that will work when the NBA is clearly going to put you at a disadvantage vs others.
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Re: Official Immanuel Quickley Thread 

Post#560 » by WiggOuts » Tue Jan 16, 2024 3:58 pm

How can people already have their minds made up about what IQ should make lol. He just got here, barely played a handful of games for us and is learning a new team as the starting PG...there's just no way you know what he's made of yet...with that being said, 25 per is a steal, it'll probably cost more than that

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