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Re: 2024-25 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V1.0 

Post#541 » by Thaddy » Sun Feb 9, 2025 9:00 pm

Perimeter defense doesn't exist anymore. Interior defense is also a sham but intimidating 7 footers still have an impact. We got Mogbo, Poeltl, Barnes and probably Maluach. Then we have offense coming from the perimeter, it seems obvious what Masai is doing.
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Post#542 » by CazOnReal » Mon Feb 10, 2025 1:56 am

Masai's plan:
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Post#543 » by sidsid » Mon Feb 10, 2025 4:02 am

bobbyp3588 wrote:
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Mr Swagtastic wrote:Teams will outbid you easily. Orlando and New Orleans come to mind. New Orleans probably offers one of CJ or Murray to a third team plus their pick this year the Pacers pick plus. Orlando could offer Black or Suggs plus

Honestly I would prefer Lamelo Ball he's younger and a better fit


I feel like Trae was on the table last summer and none of those offers came about. I don’t think he’ll get more than what SAS had to give for Fox given his rep. Pelicans already passed on him and opted for Murray, no way they move a top 4 pick in this draft for him when they have a chance at Harper or Kasp.

I honestly doubt Orlando moves Suggs for him.

I think he’ll be a sneaky buy low target unless he demands a specific team


Yuck. Trae is a total Do Not Want from my perspective. Like at all. Not even for a few SRP’s. He’s paid as if he’s really really good but seems like such a net negative player. Sure he can score, but so can any and everyone attacking him.

Maybe I’ll be wrong one day but I don’t imagine a Trae led team ever goes on a deep run. He screams LOSER. He’s certainly not of the quality to demand a certain team. lol. If he does, I pity that team.


You're not wrong. It's a terrible idea. BI wasn't a good one either, and Jak was a terrible one. But they still happened. Can't rule it out.
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Post#544 » by LoveMyRaps » Mon Feb 10, 2025 4:13 am

Draft Flagg + any one of the Ivisic twins:

Quickley/Barrett/Shead
Ingram/Dick/(Walter)
Flagg/Ochai/(Walter)
Barnes/Mogbo
Poeltl/Ivisic



Draft Bailey + any one of the Ivisic twins:

Quickley/Barrett/Shead
Bailey/Dick/(Walter)
Ingram/Ochai/(Walter)
Barnes/Mogbo
Poeltl/Ivisic


Draft Harper + any one of the Ivisic twins:

Quickley/Harper/Shead
Barrett/Dick/(Walter)
Ingram/Ochai/(Walter)
Barnes/Mogbo
Poeltl/Ivisic


Draft Edgecombe + any one of the Ivisic twins:

Quickley/Walter/Shead
Barrett/Dick/(Edgecombe)
Ingram/Ochai/(Edgecombe)
Barnes/Mogbo
Poeltl/Ivisic
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Re: 2024-25 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V1.0 

Post#545 » by LoveMyRaps » Mon Feb 10, 2025 4:14 am

We're going to need to add a couple bigs this summer.

Razor thin front-court.

We're very guard/wing heavy, which is not a bad problem to have.
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Post#546 » by Dexjackson » Mon Feb 10, 2025 12:43 pm

LoveMyRaps wrote:Draft Flagg + any one of the Ivisic twins:

Quickley/Barrett/Shead
Ingram/Dick/(Walter)
Flagg/Ochai/(Walter)
Barnes/Mogbo
Poeltl/Ivisic



Draft Bailey + any one of the Ivisic twins:

Quickley/Barrett/Shead
Bailey/Dick/(Walter)
Ingram/Ochai/(Walter)
Barnes/Mogbo
Poeltl/Ivisic


Draft Harper + any one of the Ivisic twins:

Quickley/Harper/Shead
Barrett/Dick/(Walter)
Ingram/Ochai/(Walter)
Barnes/Mogbo
Poeltl/Ivisic


Draft Edgecombe + any one of the Ivisic twins:

Quickley/Walter/Shead
Barrett/Dick/(Edgecombe)
Ingram/Ochai/(Edgecombe)
Barnes/Mogbo
Poeltl/Ivisic


Interesting to see on paper. Obviously Flagg is the #1 option. Then we would have a log jam at SG/SF with Gradey, Ochai, Walter, and RJ. Ideally you can trade RJ for a big or consolidate a few bench pieces for a better player. I'd hate to have any of the young guys just sitting on the bench.

In order of preference I'd probably go: 1) Flagg, 2) Harper, 3) Edgecombe, and then 4) Bailey. Bailey to me is very similar to Ingram and I think redundant on this team if we resign BI.
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Post#547 » by Thaddy » Mon Feb 10, 2025 4:16 pm

Not that it's likely or going to happen but Barrett or IQ + Poeltl would be about 45M to 52M. If the Kings blew it up we could compete for Sabonis.

In the off season:

Barrett + Poeltl for Sabonis + Murray

Sabonis - Maluach
Barnes - Mogbo - Murray
Ingram - Walter
Agbaji - Dick
Quickely - Shead

That would be a contender in the East
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Post#548 » by Psubs » Mon Feb 10, 2025 5:32 pm

LoveMyRaps wrote:We're going to need to add a couple bigs this summer.

Razor thin front-court.

We're very guard/wing heavy, which is not a bad problem to have.


The analytics for Luke Kornet everywhere he's played are really good. He'd be a solid backup C, much better than Orlando Robinson.

Really shouldn't draft any player under 6'7, except for VJ Edgecombe.
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Post#549 » by Psubs » Mon Feb 10, 2025 5:34 pm

Thaddy wrote:Not that it's likely or going to happen but Barrett or IQ + Poeltl would be about 45M to 52M. If the Kings blew it up we could compete for Sabonis.

In the off season:

Barrett + Poeltl for Sabonis + Murray

Sabonis - Maluach
Barnes - Mogbo - Murray
Ingram - Walter
Agbaji - Dick
Quickely - Shead

That would be a contender in the East


Sabonis should (lol Luka) be a SuperMax lifer in Sacramento. OMG, how are you going to tack on Murray, even though his stock is low right now. :lol:

Sabonis and 2025 2nd pick (Chi) for Poeltl, Agbaji, Dick and our 2025 1st pick that isn't Cooper Flagg. I might add another future 1st pick (2027).

PG IQ - Shead - Jakobe
SG Barrett - Jakobe
SF Ingram - Mogbo/Battle
PF Scottie - Boucher - Mogbo
C Sabonis - 2nd pick (Alex Condon) / Chomche

I proposed a package for Joel Embiid and hope for the stars to align 1 season where Ingram and Embiid would be healthy in the same playoff run. :D
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Post#550 » by LoveMyRaps » Mon Feb 10, 2025 5:41 pm

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LoveMyRaps wrote:We're going to need to add a couple bigs this summer.

Razor thin front-court.

We're very guard/wing heavy, which is not a bad problem to have.


The analytics for Luke Kornet everywhere he's played are really good. He'd be a solid backup C, much better than Orlando Robinson.

Really shouldn't draft any player under 6'7, except for VJ Edgecombe.


Please tell me your just forgot Dylan
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Post#551 » by Psubs » Mon Feb 10, 2025 5:46 pm

LoveMyRaps wrote:
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LoveMyRaps wrote:We're going to need to add a couple bigs this summer.

Razor thin front-court.

We're very guard/wing heavy, which is not a bad problem to have.


The analytics for Luke Kornet everywhere he's played are really good. He'd be a solid backup C, much better than Orlando Robinson.

Really shouldn't draft any player under 6'7, except for VJ Edgecombe.


Please tell me your just forgot Dylan


I would let go of Dylan Harper for Sabonis. Sabonis is Scottie if he reaches his potential.
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Post#552 » by LoveMyRaps » Mon Feb 10, 2025 7:29 pm

Psubs wrote:
LoveMyRaps wrote:
Psubs wrote:
The analytics for Luke Kornet everywhere he's played are really good. He'd be a solid backup C, much better than Orlando Robinson.

Really shouldn't draft any player under 6'7, except for VJ Edgecombe.


Please tell me your just forgot Dylan


I would let go of Dylan Harper for Sabonis. Sabonis is Scottie if he reaches his potential.


Interesting take.

I wouldn't trade Harper for him.

But if the Kings collapse, I could see them blow it up in the off-season. In that case, I would love to target Sabonis. A deal centered around Quickley/Barrett + Fillers + Picks could make sense for both sides.

Kings need a PG and Quickly makes sense for them.
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Post#553 » by Rapsfan07 » Mon Feb 10, 2025 10:57 pm

Psubs wrote:
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Psubs wrote:
The analytics for Luke Kornet everywhere he's played are really good. He'd be a solid backup C, much better than Orlando Robinson.

Really shouldn't draft any player under 6'7, except for VJ Edgecombe.


Please tell me your just forgot Dylan


I would let go of Dylan Harper for Sabonis. Sabonis is Scottie if he reaches his potential.


That's nuts man. I'd rather Harper
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Post#554 » by Johnston » Tue Feb 11, 2025 2:05 am

Do you guys think our front office would have would have done a Salary+Knecht+ unprotected 1st rounder+pick swap for Poeltl trade?
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Post#555 » by bballsparkin » Tue Feb 11, 2025 4:23 am

Johnston wrote:Do you guys think our front office would have would have done a Salary+Knecht+ unprotected 1st rounder+pick swap for Poeltl trade?


A 2031 pick? and 2030 pick swap? Knecht is nice and all but i vote nay.
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Post#556 » by Thaddy » Tue Feb 11, 2025 4:25 am

Johnston wrote:Do you guys think our front office would have would have done a Salary+Knecht+ unprotected 1st rounder+pick swap for Poeltl trade?

No we're looking to be competitive and that package is hot trash. NBA teams are dumping good players for picks anymore they want good players back.

Poeltl is probably going to be traded for a better player in the future. A framework like IQ + Poeltl + Dick for Sabonis + Filler would make sense for us.

My dream rotation would be something like:

Sabonis / Chomche
Barnes / Mogbo
Flagg / Walter
Ingram / Agbaji
Barrett / Shead

The shooting isn't amazing but it would be a fun team to watch and I think they'd be killers in transition and the half court.
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Post#557 » by hyper316 » Tue Feb 11, 2025 9:23 am

LoveMyRaps wrote:
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LoveMyRaps wrote:
Please tell me your just forgot Dylan


I would let go of Dylan Harper for Sabonis. Sabonis is Scottie if he reaches his potential.


Interesting take.

I wouldn't trade Harper for him.

But if the Kings collapse, I could see them blow it up in the off-season. In that case, I would love to target Sabonis. A deal centered around Quickley/Barrett + Fillers + Picks could make sense for both sides.

Kings need a PG and Quickly makes sense for them.


Love idea trading IQ to kings.

I can't believe kings traded away both Haliburton and Fox
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Re: 2024-25 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V1.0 

Post#558 » by Dexjackson » Tue Feb 11, 2025 2:17 pm

Thaddy wrote:
Johnston wrote:Do you guys think our front office would have would have done a Salary+Knecht+ unprotected 1st rounder+pick swap for Poeltl trade?

No we're looking to be competitive and that package is hot trash. NBA teams are dumping good players for picks anymore they want good players back.

Poeltl is probably going to be traded for a better player in the future. A framework like IQ + Poeltl + Dick for Sabonis + Filler would make sense for us.

My dream rotation would be something like:

Sabonis / Chomche
Barnes / Mogbo
Flagg / Walter
Ingram / Agbaji
Barrett / Shead

The shooting isn't amazing but it would be a fun team to watch and I think they'd be killers in transition and the half court.


I don't see the point of RJ in this lineup. I would rather let Shead play (not my preference either) or try to get a 3&D pg. The spacing would be pretty awful with that team. The length of the lineup would be fun to watch though.
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Re: 2024-25 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V1.0 

Post#559 » by Thaddy » Tue Feb 11, 2025 2:30 pm

Dexjackson wrote:
Thaddy wrote:
Johnston wrote:Do you guys think our front office would have would have done a Salary+Knecht+ unprotected 1st rounder+pick swap for Poeltl trade?

No we're looking to be competitive and that package is hot trash. NBA teams are dumping good players for picks anymore they want good players back.

Poeltl is probably going to be traded for a better player in the future. A framework like IQ + Poeltl + Dick for Sabonis + Filler would make sense for us.

My dream rotation would be something like:

Sabonis / Chomche
Barnes / Mogbo
Flagg / Walter
Ingram / Agbaji
Barrett / Shead

The shooting isn't amazing but it would be a fun team to watch and I think they'd be killers in transition and the half court.


I don't see the point of RJ in this lineup. I would rather let Shead play (not my preference either) or try to get a 3&D pg. The spacing would be pretty awful with that team. The length of the lineup would be fun to watch though.

It's a dream scenario. RJ doesn't have a great pull up 3 but we've seen non-shooters have success since they apply rim pressure. We would be relying heavily on Sabonis, Flagg, and BI to space for us. It's a dream scenario but I think it would be contender level, however I doubt the Kings ever give up Sabonis. If Jokic wasn't in the league a lot of fans would recognize his game as elite level more.
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Re: 2024-25 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V1.0 

Post#560 » by Thaddy » Tue Feb 11, 2025 4:03 pm

The 2025 draft dictates our future. If we get a top 10 positional player it would make one of the current starters expendable. Based on our prior picks Masai values wings and guards more than bigs. I think Fears is someone he would value since he's shifty, creates his own shot, and we need a future bench creator. In the 2nd round he'll want to go after a defensive player who's offense can grow I think that's Miles Byrd.

The back up big men vacancy would still be there and it has to be addressed. I think we look for a winning trade involving Agbaji. I would guess we have a target that slips into the 2nd round and we use that 1 day intermission to workout a deal. We likely get back another 2nd rounder in the 2025 draft and future draft compensation. If we can avoid taking back salary we would get room under the tax to also work with.

Masai lost his only finesse big man in Olynyk and Wolf would be a good replacement. He's a junior in college that could probably be used right away. With Mogbo and Barnes we can risk losing some defense at the C position for additional offense, we also need to make sure we have some kind of stretch big in our rotation.

Poeltl / Wolf / Chomche
Barnes / Mogbo
Ingram / Battle / Byrd
Barrett / Dick / Walter
Quickley / Fears / Shead

I predict Battle, Walter, and Mogbo break out next year while Wolf and Fears are surprises. We are a top 6 seed and on the look out for any available superstars. We could put together a solid package with 2 of IQ/Barrett/Yak, a prospect, and future 2nd rounders or even firsts.

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