Raps V. Nuggets - Preseason - Mon, Oct 6th, 2025 - 10PM EST

[Troubadour]

I'd like to see us use SB in the Jokic role. High post, run actions/movement around him. Let him playmake

Thing about Jokic is he's one of the most skilled players in league history and has more size and touch than almost any big in league history. I still agree with you that he is probably most likely to achieve his full potential in that kind of role. I just don't think he wants to do it. He wants to bring the ball up, take pull-up jumpers, and not much else. Every so often he remembers he's 6'8 / 240 lbs, but that's becoming less common.

[PushDaRock]

imho i dont think this offense maximizes our player's skill sets. it's a bit too reliant on yak. if darko wants a hub then he should be using scottie there when yak is out.

and without yak, IQ can't get any good looks.

the offense needs more pnr's to simplify stuff and get some guys better looks. we dont have guys that can create space off the dribble so picks are needed. i dont think the .5 stuff really works.

imho, the biggest mistake was trying to develop scottie as a shooter when he shouldve been working in the post and elbow only. basically a barkley type of player with webber type passing.

this has nothing to do with today's game. just how ive seen stuff overall.

I don't see how you can blame the team for trying to develop him as a shooter. If you're not a C in this league, you basically have to be able to shoot. There's 2 guys that aren't C's that can dominate without being able to shoot. They both happen to have generational type athleticism (Giannis and Zion).

[Stromile12]

idk if this is true but I think I read somewhere that his trainer is his friend and not some professional trainer.

Isn't he part of a collective of professional trainers?

no clue man. Just a thought on why Scotties offence shows no signs of improvement.

Whatever they're doing ain't working lol. Mans looks the same every year, no noticeable improvement.

[mademan]

Love Masai but he buried us

He refused to rebuild because losing seasons would get him fired, and he got fired regardless. You cant skip the process of being bad in the NBA

[aminiaturebuddha]

Jokic spending most of that half whining to the refs was pretty funny considering he was initiating almost everything by shoving guys and chicken winging anyone who came near the paint.

Too bad CMB got hurt early there because he never really got into rhythm after that. Hopefully that'll change in the second half. Being forced to guard Jokic is trial by fire though. It sucks that Poeltl (and to a much lesser extent Chomche) are out for this one.

And I think people are being too hard on Shead. I noticed a bunch of potential assists. Guys just weren't making shots off of his passes or they were trying to drive against closeouts and got into trouble instead of making another advantage pass.

[Raptors_Dynasty]

We’re paying Scottie the max to be the 4th offensive option.

He has not developed one standout offensive skill in 5 years.

Yes he’s a good defender but paired with 0 offensive improvement since year 1… the MAX???

He’s the only reason I can’t fully buy into this team. What a horrible miscalculation by the front office and coaching staff.

In their defence, I don't know what other choice they had other than to max him out. They got rid of any other potential franchise cornerstone, got him a fringe All-Star selection, and then told him it was his franchise. It was either max him out or trade him, which was not really an option at that point.

That’s fair. I’ll direct my frustration more so at our bad luck these last few years. Dallas with the #1 pick, SAS with Wemby and Dylan. And we got stuck with Scottie. Frustrating stuff

[Mr.Raptorsingh]

Sup y'all how the squad looking

[dandaman]

Everyone is trying to find themselves with Ingram addition, where their shots come from, I'll give it a few games but tonight has been ugly

[HumbleRen]

I'd like to see us use SB in the Jokic role. High post, run actions/movement around him. Let him playmake

He can’t. He’s a below average screener.

Jokic is one of the best of all time at it.

[djsunyc]

imho i dont think this offense maximizes our player's skill sets. it's a bit too reliant on yak. if darko wants a hub then he should be using scottie there when yak is out.

and without yak, IQ can't get any good looks.

the offense needs more pnr's to simplify stuff and get some guys better looks. we dont have guys that can create space off the dribble so picks are needed. i dont think the .5 stuff really works.

imho, the biggest mistake was trying to develop scottie as a shooter when he shouldve been working in the post and elbow only. basically a barkley type of player with webber type passing.

this has nothing to do with today's game. just how ive seen stuff overall.

I don't see how you can blame the team for trying to develop him as a shooter. If you're not a C in this league, you basically have to be able to shoot. There's 2 guys that aren't C's that can dominate without being able to shoot. They both happen to have generational type athleticism (Giannis and Zion).

what i meant was making him purely an outside in player when you can slowly add catch and shoot 3s after youve established him as a 15 feet and in hub/scorer. but they basically abandoned that after his rookie year thinking they can mold him into a giannis type of attacker with a 3 but that hasnt worked.

[canz55]

Guys the Scottie takes are really tiring. It's a preseason game, give it a rest please.

[DemHeavyHands]

Scottie is hurting my soul rn

Plz man, show us that what you worked on this summer is actually gonna be there

[Troubadour]

Everyone is trying to find themselves with Ingram addition, where their shots come from, I'll give it a few games but tonight has been ugly

RJ seems to have benefitted from it. IQ seems tentative. Scottie is just MIA.

[Raptors_Dynasty]

Sup y'all how the squad looking

Scottie’s going crazy

[Prestige]

Scottie needs to wear ball hog gloves with Coach Caron Godwin.

[HumbleRen]

Guys the Scottie takes are really tiring. It's a preseason game, give it a rest please.

This isn’t a preseason thing. Just look at how he attempts to create advantages with the ball in his hands, it’s subpar. That isn’t going to get fixed magically in the regular season.

He won’t be this bad but it’s 100% valid to be concerned about his offence.

[Merit]

imho i dont think this offense maximizes our player's skill sets. it's a bit too reliant on yak. if darko wants a hub then he should be using scottie there when yak is out.

and without yak, IQ can't get any good looks.

the offense needs more pnr's to simplify stuff and get some guys better looks. we dont have guys that can create space off the dribble so picks are needed. i dont think the .5 stuff really works.

imho, the biggest mistake was trying to develop scottie as a shooter when he shouldve been working in the post and elbow only. basically a barkley type of player with webber type passing.

this has nothing to do with today's game. just how ive seen stuff overall.

I don't see how you can blame the team for trying to develop him as a shooter. If you're not a C in this league, you basically have to be able to shoot. There's 2 guys that aren't C's that can dominate without being able to shoot. They both happen to have generational type athleticism (Giannis and Zion).

IMO it’s early. As for generational athleticism, it’s easier to be a non-shooter if you’re a big and can pass.

[Stromile12]

Guys the Scottie takes are really tiring. It's a preseason game, give it a rest please.

He's being paid a max contract, it comes with the territory. People want to see improvement.

[deck]

A very typical stat line for the Raptors at half time. Turn overs keeping us alive while we struggle on offence.

[Troubadour]

We’re paying Scottie the max to be the 4th offensive option.

He has not developed one standout offensive skill in 5 years.

Yes he’s a good defender but paired with 0 offensive improvement since year 1… the MAX???

He’s the only reason I can’t fully buy into this team. What a horrible miscalculation by the front office and coaching staff.

In their defence, I don't know what other choice they had other than to max him out. They got rid of any other potential franchise cornerstone, got him a fringe All-Star selection, and then told him it was his franchise. It was either max him out or trade him, which was not really an option at that point.

That’s fair. I’ll direct my frustration more so at our bad luck these last few years. Dallas with the #1 pick, SAS with Wemby and Dylan. And we got stuck with Scottie. Frustrating stuff

Raptors media members still talk about All-NBA upside with Scottie, but I just don't see it. He's not a game-changing defender (or at least not one today) and making an All-NBA team as a sub-20 PT scorer is incredibly difficult. It feels like BI will be the obvious All-Star candidate if he's healthy.