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2014 NBA Draft Prospects Thread #5 | Raps picking 20th

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Re: Your Top 30 players 

Post#561 » by Jstock12 » Tue May 27, 2014 7:59 pm

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Yallbecrazy wrote:lol Saric, lol Lavine, lol Randle, lol Mcdermott.

What's the difference between Randle and Stokes? They're pretty much the same player.


I don't see that.

Randle has much more varied offensive skills than Stokes. ALTHOUGH, not sure if Randle's bull rushing style off the dribble will work effectively at the next level like it did at UK against inferior athletes.


Randle = Kenyon Martin w/o the D.


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Re: 2014 NBA Draft Prospects Thread #5 | Raps picking 20th 

Post#562 » by Chriscross » Tue May 27, 2014 8:12 pm

The thought of the Raptors possibility drafting Glenn Robinson makes me shudder
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Re: 2014 NBA Draft Prospects Thread #5 | Raps picking 20th 

Post#563 » by SkywalkerAC » Tue May 27, 2014 8:18 pm

Risk101 wrote:[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtlejAVemjw[/youtube]

MJ said "I'm gonna make them pay for taking me 3rd".

That competitive spirit from these new age guys is gone. If Wiggins was picked 3 overall in this years draft he would have been like "Meh whatever".


lol, you're basically comparing them to the one of the most competitive athletes of all time.
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Re: 2014 NBA Draft Prospects Thread #5 | Raps picking 20th 

Post#564 » by bballsparkin » Tue May 27, 2014 8:23 pm

Chriscross wrote:The thought of the Raptors possibility drafting Glenn Robinson makes me shudder

Not if it's the second round ;)
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Re: 2014 NBA Draft Prospects Thread #5 | Raps picking 20th 

Post#565 » by Raptorfan2012 » Tue May 27, 2014 8:25 pm

Chriscross wrote:The thought of the Raptors possibility drafting Glenn Robinson makes me shudder


Why though? I keep hearing he hasn't improved much but his numbers look okay:

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketb ... binson-iii

His PPG and FT% improved a bit, plus he played on a pretty stacked team. He has good size and athleticism for the SF spot.
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Re: 2014 NBA Draft Prospects Thread #5 | Raps picking 20th 

Post#566 » by Chriscross » Tue May 27, 2014 8:37 pm

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Chriscross wrote:The thought of the Raptors possibility drafting Glenn Robinson makes me shudder


Why though? I keep hearing he hasn't improved much but his numbers look okay:

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketb ... binson-iii

His PPG and FT% improved a bit, plus he played on a pretty stacked team. He has good size and athleticism for the SF spot.


Got a decent elbow jumper but doesn't really bring anything else to the table

He regressed from year 1 to year 2. 3 Point shot. Not really. Playmaking. None. Rebounding. Decent but doesn't stand out. Defense. Ok but effort and focus isn't always there

His impressive physique will fool GMs into taking him earlier than they should. Take him late 2nd if he is there
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Re: Your Top 30 players 

Post#567 » by Dr Positivity » Tue May 27, 2014 8:51 pm

Yallbecrazy wrote:lol Saric, lol Lavine, lol Randle, lol Mcdermott.

What's the difference between Randle and Stokes? They're pretty much the same player.


Randle is a lot more physically gifted. Other than an athleticism chasm, Randle has 8'9.5 standing reach to Stokes 8'7.5, which is a crucial difference (average for PF is 8'11).
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Re: 2014 NBA Draft Prospects Thread #5 | Raps picking 20th 

Post#568 » by rapz101 » Tue May 27, 2014 8:58 pm

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSDl9JF5hvU[/youtube]

Obv hes out of our pick range, but jus watching this vid is entertaining...i can only think of one other guy in the league at his weight and hieght that could dribble the ball the way he does, his name is lebron

Not saying hes gunna be anything like lebron but this guy is going to one entertaining player, especially in transition
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Re: 2014 NBA Draft Prospects Thread #5 | Raps picking 20th 

Post#569 » by Rapsfan07 » Tue May 27, 2014 9:27 pm

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BillyGM wrote:Whois Perry Jones of this years draft (projected to go top 10 and then falling heavily)?


I don't know, but PJ had health issues which caused him to slide. We haven't heard enough draft buzz yet to find out. I personally think Gordon is going to slide based on a weak skillset and tweener status. I also think Saric' buyout might cause him to slip a bit, too.

It will be either Aaron Gordon, Doug McDermott or Tyler Ennis


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Re: 2014 NBA Draft Prospects Thread #5 | Raps picking 20th 

Post#570 » by mappiah19 » Tue May 27, 2014 9:45 pm

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BillyGM wrote:Whois Perry Jones of this years draft (projected to go top 10 and then falling heavily)?


I don't know, but PJ had health issues which caused him to slide. We haven't heard enough draft buzz yet to find out. I personally think Gordon is going to slide based on a weak skillset and tweener status. I also think Saric' buyout might cause him to slip a bit, too.

It will be either Aaron Gordon, Doug McDermott or Tyler Ennis


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I'd add Kyle Anderson to this list too.
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Re: 2014 NBA Draft Prospects Thread #5 | Raps picking 20th 

Post#571 » by Rapsfan07 » Tue May 27, 2014 9:53 pm

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I don't know, but PJ had health issues which caused him to slide. We haven't heard enough draft buzz yet to find out. I personally think Gordon is going to slide based on a weak skillset and tweener status. I also think Saric' buyout might cause him to slip a bit, too.

It will be either Aaron Gordon, Doug McDermott or Tyler Ennis


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I'd add Kyle Anderson to this list too.


I don't think so. Anderson, similar to PJ3 in 2012 had a unique skillset and slide but not out of the first round


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Re: 2014 NBA Draft Prospects Thread #5 | Raps picking 20th 

Post#572 » by mappiah19 » Tue May 27, 2014 9:56 pm

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Rapsfan07 wrote:It will be either Aaron Gordon, Doug McDermott or Tyler Ennis


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I'd add Kyle Anderson to this list too.


I don't think so. Anderson, similar to PJ3 in 2012 had a unique skillset and slide but not out of the first round


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Yea I didn't say to the second round. But I think he could slide to the 17-24 range because of his poor athleticism
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Re: 2014 NBA Draft Prospects Thread #5 | Raps picking 20th 

Post#573 » by Rapsfan07 » Tue May 27, 2014 10:02 pm

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I'd add Kyle Anderson to this list too.


I don't think so. Anderson, similar to PJ3 in 2012 had a unique skillset and slide but not out of the first round


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Yea I didn't say to the second round. But I think he could slide to the 17-24 range because of his poor athleticism


Well according to DX, he's already projected around there so I thought you meant the second round


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Re: 2014 NBA Draft Prospects Thread #5 | Raps picking 20th 

Post#574 » by Risk101 » Tue May 27, 2014 10:12 pm

rapz101 wrote:[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSDl9JF5hvU[/youtube]

Obv hes out of our pick range, but jus watching this vid is entertaining...i can only think of one other guy in the league at his weight and hieght that could dribble the ball the way he does, his name is lebron

Not saying hes gunna be anything like lebron but this guy is going to one entertaining player, especially in transition


He's a more well rounded player than Wiggins is right now.

1.Embiid
2.Parker
3.Wiggins

After watching all 3 Wiggins is not as good as those 2 are but could be better than both of them in the foreseeable future.
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Re: 2014 NBA Draft Prospects Thread #5 | Raps picking 20th 

Post#575 » by BillyGM » Tue May 27, 2014 10:19 pm

Risk101 wrote:
rapz101 wrote:[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSDl9JF5hvU[/youtube]

Obv hes out of our pick range, but jus watching this vid is entertaining...i can only think of one other guy in the league at his weight and hieght that could dribble the ball the way he does, his name is lebron

Not saying hes gunna be anything like lebron but this guy is going to one entertaining player, especially in transition


He's a more well rounded player than Wiggins is right now.

1.Embiid
2.Parker
3.Wiggins

After watching all 3 Wiggins is not as good as those 2 are but could be better than both of them in the foreseeable future.

Same with Damien Inglis in our range, he's not as good as other prospect at 20# but could be better then others
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Re: 2014 NBA Draft Prospects Thread #5 | Raps picking 20th 

Post#576 » by Risk101 » Tue May 27, 2014 10:25 pm

BillyGM wrote:
Risk101 wrote:
rapz101 wrote:[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSDl9JF5hvU[/youtube]

Obv hes out of our pick range, but jus watching this vid is entertaining...i can only think of one other guy in the league at his weight and hieght that could dribble the ball the way he does, his name is lebron

Not saying hes gunna be anything like lebron but this guy is going to one entertaining player, especially in transition


He's a more well rounded player than Wiggins is right now.

1.Embiid
2.Parker
3.Wiggins

After watching all 3 Wiggins is not as good as those 2 are but could be better than both of them in the foreseeable future.

Same with Damien Inglis in our range, he's not as good as other prospect at 20# but could be better then others


He'll be know more for a defensive player. Offensively he will never be a threat unless he can hit some open 3 shots with consistency.
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Re: 2014 NBA Draft Prospects Thread #5 | Raps picking 20th 

Post#577 » by for_tdot » Tue May 27, 2014 10:46 pm

IMO at 20 I'd rather draft Glenn Robinson over Jerami Grant or Kj McDaniels.
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Re: 2014 NBA Draft Prospects Thread #5 | Raps picking 20th 

Post#578 » by Kenyon009 » Tue May 27, 2014 10:47 pm

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Kenyon009 wrote:Gordon shooting threes? Lawwwl. He can barely shoot free throws, granted that's why he has the potential tag on him. I agree about Lavine he can definitely grow into a player better than DeRozan but that's iffy. Not many guys can draw and take as much contact as DeRozan. He's an elite free throw drawer and his post up game is upcoming. DeRozan at 27 will be making contested 3 balls (like he does Kong twos now). I see him peaking as a top 3 shooting guard in the league...

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How can you see him making contested three pointers, when he can't even make open ones?

Look at his long two percentages. He takes those contested fairly often, if he can stretch his range just a fewww feet he'll be doing that same but from three point range.
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Re: 2014 NBA Draft Prospects Thread #5 | Raps picking 20th 

Post#579 » by Undefeated » Tue May 27, 2014 10:52 pm

for_tdot wrote:IMO at 20 I'd rather draft Glenn Robinson over Jerami Grant or Kj McDaniels.


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Re: 2014 NBA Draft Prospects Thread #5 | Raps picking 20th 

Post#580 » by Rejected » Tue May 27, 2014 11:00 pm

Every year there seems to be at least one good player that was projected to go higher and falls to the 20s for whatever reason. We need to get that guy. Dont really care who it is.

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