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Thank Nation! Pre-Lottery: Denver 9th, NY pick 7th (PART 4)

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Re: Thank Nation! NY pick currently 7th, DEN 9th (PART 4) 

Post#561 » by OAKLEY_2 » Wed Apr 13, 2016 9:43 pm

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OAKLEY_2 wrote:Wondering if we get the 8th or 9th pick whether we could do a swap with NOLA. Say our 8th and 26 plus TRoss for the 6th, the 38th and the 42nd. That should give us Hield or Murray and make this lotto pick MUCH more special. Then we can take some fliers in the second round like Chinanu Onuaku and Wayne Selden who can be stashed for a year. Ross could slide in as a replacement for departing Eric Gordon.

So you feel trading Ross and either the 8th or 9th pick in a weak draft to move up 2 or 3 spots for either Hield or Murray
is a good move.
Both Hield and Murray are currently not capable of playing defence at the NBA level, Norman Powell seems to have
a higher potential then either of the above.
You would cause the Raptors to play less competitive ball for 1 or 2 seasons while Hield or Murray develop their NBA
skills.
Casey has shown and expressed his desire to have players who can play superior defence and has stated that the
Raptors do not have any problem scoring points but need players that can prevent the other team from scoring.
How much impact will these 2 have when 60% plus of the Raptors offence is run thru either Kyle or Demar.
So even if the other team is willing to make this trade I feel it will only make sense for the Raptors if they are
not planning on resigning Demar Derozan.


But... We are much closer to having a star out of the draft and Casey got Demar to play reasonable D so yeah would be fn stoked to get either Hield or Murray.
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Post#562 » by Kinger95 » Wed Apr 13, 2016 11:50 pm

mynbadraft,com and nbadraft,net both put up new mocks today, one has us passing on thon at pick 26
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Re: Thank Nation! NY pick currently 7th, DEN 9th (PART 4) 

Post#563 » by wegetitin08 » Wed Apr 13, 2016 11:59 pm

Kinger95 wrote:mynbadraft,com and nbadraft,net both put up new mocks today, one has us passing on thon at pick 26


I know its NBAdraft.net but they also have updated their Comparisons(ratings) Davis lovers get to read more about him and see his "comparison"
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Post#564 » by MEDIC » Thu Apr 14, 2016 12:03 am

Kinger95 wrote:mynbadraft,com and nbadraft,net both put up new mocks today, one has us passing on thon at pick 26


I wouldn't absolutely hate if they picked Thon, but there are a lot of players that I would probably rather have in the mid 20's.

I think a lot of teams will be leery of Thon & having to deal with his "caregiver". I hope he gets picked by a solid organization like the Spurs though. He'll need a solid support system that will influence him the right way.
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Post#565 » by OAKLEY_2 » Thu Apr 14, 2016 12:08 am

So Thon is a go for the draft? Hadn't heard that.
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Post#566 » by BoyzNTheHood » Thu Apr 14, 2016 12:20 am

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Kinger95 wrote:mynbadraft,com and nbadraft,net both put up new mocks today, one has us passing on thon at pick 26


I wouldn't absolutely hate if they picked Thon, but there are a lot of players that I would probably rather have in the mid 20's.

I think a lot of teams will be leery of Thon & having to deal with his "caregiver". I hope he gets picked by a solid organization like the Spurs though. He'll need a solid support system that will influence him the right way.


At 27 I don't think you can pass on Thon. Even if he turns out to be nothing you have to take the risk on a potential talent like him. Unless someone who was expected to go in the lottery drops that far, I think you have to take Thon and see what you can make of him.
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Post#567 » by MEDIC » Thu Apr 14, 2016 12:27 am

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At 27 I don't think you can pass on Thon. Even if he turns out to be nothing you have to take the risk on a potential talent like him. Unless someone who was expected to go in the lottery drops that far, I think you have to take Thon and see what you can make of him.


That's basically why I said I wouldn't hate it if they took him (even though I am not a fan). Low risk, possible high reward.

Honestly though.....I kinda hope he is denied draft eligibility & has to spend a year in the D-League so that teams can assess his game a little further. That would probably be the best thing for everyone (not named Thon).
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Post#568 » by BoyzNTheHood » Thu Apr 14, 2016 12:33 am

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At 27 I don't think you can pass on Thon. Even if he turns out to be nothing you have to take the risk on a potential talent like him. Unless someone who was expected to go in the lottery drops that far, I think you have to take Thon and see what you can make of him.


That's basically why I said I wouldn't hate it if they took him (even though I am not a fan). Low risk, possible high reward.

Honestly though.....I kinda hope he is denied draft eligibility & has to spend a year in the D-League so that teams can assess his game a little further. That would probably be the best thing for everyone (not named Thon).


I think they'd be hard pressed to deny his eligibility, but if he does have to choose a college or head to the D-League I wouldn't mind seeing if he can grow with a capable coach.
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Post#569 » by BoyzNTheHood » Thu Apr 14, 2016 12:41 am

I'll be watching a lot of Arizona games next year!

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Post#570 » by BJaysRaps » Thu Apr 14, 2016 1:05 am

will portland go all out tonight if dallas win? does portland hold a tie breaker against dallas?
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Post#571 » by ciueli » Thu Apr 14, 2016 1:22 am

BJaysRaps wrote:will portland go all out tonight if dallas win? does portland hold a tie breaker against dallas?


If Dallas wins Portland needs to win.
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Post#572 » by PapeSowish » Thu Apr 14, 2016 2:18 am

Damn. Got a bad feeling about the POR/DEN game.
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Post#573 » by anj » Thu Apr 14, 2016 2:18 am

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James_Raptors wrote:BPA and run, regardless of the position he plays.


Exactly, I think we've had enough of picks like Rafael Araújo over Andre Iguodala, Terrence Ross over Andre Drummond and Delon Wright over Bobby Portis. We took Araújo over Iguodala because we had Carter and Peterson and needed a centre. We took Ross over Drummond because we already had Val, our centre of the future, and we took Wright over Portis because the offseason plan had us short a man at backup point guard... until we lost out on Wes Matthews and signed Corey Joseph instead.

The key is, you never know what will happen, DeMar could decide he wants to play in LA, some team could throw a max contract at Lowry in 2017, or either of them could suffer a career altering injury that completely transforms what team needs are. Smart teams take BPA and figure the rest out later.


I agree about BPA, but let's be clear about why they took Wright over Portis: because they liked Wright better.
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Post#574 » by Skeezo » Thu Apr 14, 2016 2:21 am

PapeSowish wrote:Damn. Got a bad feeling about the POR/DEN game.


Damage has already been done with Milwaukee and Sacramento losing... Raps never win coin flips...
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Post#575 » by 0 - 100 » Thu Apr 14, 2016 2:23 am

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Post#576 » by DHK » Thu Apr 14, 2016 2:51 am

Portland's W has huge implications on the draft. Hoping they pull it off.
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Post#577 » by deeps6x » Thu Apr 14, 2016 3:00 am

anj wrote:
ciueli wrote:
James_Raptors wrote:BPA and run, regardless of the position he plays.


Exactly, I think we've had enough of picks like Rafael Araújo over Andre Iguodala, Terrence Ross over Andre Drummond and Delon Wright over Bobby Portis. We took Araújo over Iguodala because we had Carter and Peterson and needed a centre. We took Ross over Drummond because we already had Val, our centre of the future, and we took Wright over Portis because the offseason plan had us short a man at backup point guard... until we lost out on Wes Matthews and signed Corey Joseph instead.

The key is, you never know what will happen, DeMar could decide he wants to play in LA, some team could throw a max contract at Lowry in 2017, or either of them could suffer a career altering injury that completely transforms what team needs are. Smart teams take BPA and figure the rest out later.


I agree about BPA, but let's be clear about why they took Wright over Portis: because they liked Wright better.


No, lets really be clear. Because they only had one PG on the roster and needed another one. But damn, if he ain't looking real good right now. Well done Masai. Well. Done.
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Re: Thank Nation! NY pick currently 7th, DEN 9th (PART 4) 

Post#578 » by TheFutureMM » Thu Apr 14, 2016 3:05 am

Get the hell out of here Denver. You win this game and I will hate your franchise forever.
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Post#579 » by EventHorizon » Thu Apr 14, 2016 3:14 am

Exactly, Denver is doing us a disfavor!
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Post#580 » by 0 - 100 » Thu Apr 14, 2016 3:16 am

Dallas had to go lose to the Spurs 3rd line. I hope Portland pulls out a win

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