2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD 3

[Psubs]

Outside of Sarr, the guy near the top that makes the most sense alongside our core long-term is Topic.

Some will disagree because they'll argue Quickley is our PG. I love the progress IQ has made as a play maker but he isn't a true PG. Neither is Scottie. Neither is RJ. All three of those guys are good off ball players though.

Raptors could use an organizer to push their offense to the next level. Someone who actually creates good shots for others as appose to just making good reads. We haven't had a player like that since Kyle.

Long-term, Topic would likely push IQ to the bench where he's probably best suited as a high usage 6th man. I'd still like to re-sign Quickly because this process would take a couple years to play out (i.e. Topic starts out as back up PG and moves into the SL in year 2).

We also need another multi-dimensional forward though I don't see great options in the top 6.

Topic otoh is a good bet to work out and we could really use someone with his skillset.

You're talking about Reed Sheppard.

Not remotely the same quality of play maker though I like him too for other reasons. Edit: to put some numbers to it, Topic is averaging 11 assists per 100 in a pro league in Europe whereas Reed is averaging 8 assists per 100 in college.

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[TimeForChange]

Topic hasn't played a game in 3+ months. No one knows what that knee looks like right now.

[ArthurVandelay]

We won’t be bad enough next year to be anywhere near the top-5. This roster has playoff potential, and play-in potential at least.

you don't know this

I could say the same for you. Nothing is guaranteed, but just looking at roster construction at this point will tell you Washington, Charlotte, Detroit, Portland, and Utah are worse rosters. It’s also highly possible that Brooklyn, Chicago, and Atlanta (if they trade one of Young or Murray) could be around where we are as is. That could mean we’re flirting with anywhere between the 7-11 picks with year 4 Barnes, RJ, Gradey and Quick getting better next year.

Trade Poeltl and start KO next year at C and the Raptors will be bottom 5

[BoyzNTheHood]

you don't know this

I could say the same for you. Nothing is guaranteed, but just looking at roster construction at this point will tell you Washington, Charlotte, Detroit, Portland, and Utah are worse rosters. It’s also highly possible that Brooklyn, Chicago, and Atlanta (if they trade one of Young or Murray) could be around where we are as is. That could mean we’re flirting with anywhere between the 7-11 picks with year 4 Barnes, RJ, Gradey and Quick getting better next year.

Trade Poeltl and start KO next year at C and the Raptors will be bottom 5

That’s a fact but we don’t know what the plan is for next year. With a rebrand incoming I would think winning would be the preference.

Also, if we lose the pick, then trade Poeltl who we traded that pick for, AND suck people will riot.

[TimeForChange]

Spurs don't even want to finish in the bottom 4

[ArthurVandelay]

I could say the same for you. Nothing is guaranteed, but just looking at roster construction at this point will tell you Washington, Charlotte, Detroit, Portland, and Utah are worse rosters. It’s also highly possible that Brooklyn, Chicago, and Atlanta (if they trade one of Young or Murray) could be around where we are as is. That could mean we’re flirting with anywhere between the 7-11 picks with year 4 Barnes, RJ, Gradey and Quick getting better next year.

Trade Poeltl and start KO next year at C and the Raptors will be bottom 5

That’s a fact but we don’t know what the plan is for next year. With a rebrand incoming I would think winning would be the preference.

Also, if we lose the pick, then trade Poeltl who we traded that pick for, AND suck people will riot.

We have to see what happens with the lotto pick this year and what Poeltl would return.

But yeah, it would be tough optics for the Raptors PR department. They can still do a rebrand in a losing season though pretty easily. The focus becomes the future and selling hope. That isn’t hard to do.

[VanWest82]

You're talking about Reed Sheppard.

Not remotely the same quality of play maker though I like him too for other reasons. Edit: to put some numbers to it, Topic is averaging 11 assists per 100 in a pro league in Europe whereas Reed is averaging 8 assists per 100 in college.

Spoiler:

Watch on YouTube

I'm sure you meant this as more of a statement based on the title as appose to actual analysis but that video was horrible. He goes off about how Topic is just this monumentally terrible shooter despite being an 87% FT shooter. Like, I think he's going to be decent shooter in NBA. His defense could be problems though.

[Yallbecrazy]

Not remotely the same quality of play maker though I like him too for other reasons. Edit: to put some numbers to it, Topic is averaging 11 assists per 100 in a pro league in Europe whereas Reed is averaging 8 assists per 100 in college.

Spoiler:

Watch on YouTube

I'm sure you meant this as more of a statement based on the title as appose to actual analysis but that video was horrible. He goes off about how Topic is just this monumentally terrible shooter despite being an 87% FT shooter. Like, I think he's going to be decent shooter in NBA. His defense could be problems though.

Ya, that's when he lost me and I stopped watching.
Also, Reed is a good passer and smart player, but not really a playmaker as he doesn't break down a defense or finish at the rim.

[CazOnReal]

Obviously you don't draft for needs and expecting a rookie to immediately fix these issues is unrealistic but still we have a clear list imo
-More Shooting
-POA defense
-Size at 3/4
-Backup pg

Exactly the draft, this draft, may not be the place to backfill Siakam, OG and Precious but... there's gonna be shooting and there's gonna be Centre projects. Win the draft in the shooting department and or the Centre sweepstakes and this draft won't look so Ammo or Jimmer. What if Reed Sheppard turns out to be an almost Tyler Herro? = win. Pacers pick gets you Big Zac Edey? = win for Canada basketball. What if Furphy was there at 31? 6'9 shooter project with possibly decent defence. The biggest win will be staying in the lotto as that sets the table for other moves. I just wish we would actually make moves like teams did last year when they flipped picks for Coulibaly, Lively and Wallace. Why will we not charge up our smart devices and make deals?

Lotto is coming. To send someone only to get bounced would be a sad sports moment. Send Larry T. he is friends with Silver.

Drafting Edey with the Pacers pick over Ware, Missi or literally any other center prospect is a fireable offense if those players are on the board.

[CazOnReal]

Who wants some potential draft day f*ckery? Now that the Spurs are 5th pre-lottery there's some potentially likely headaches that could arise depending on where the balls land.

If there's a Spurs pick from 7-9 now, we won't know whether it's ours or not until we hit the Top 4.

If it's 6 or 10 then we either jumped up or dropped down significantly and thus it conveyed.

[DreamTeam09]

I'm still on the big wings if we land in the top 6

Rischarer
Holland
C.Williams
Buzelis

Pacers pick - Ware/Kyshawn George/T.Salaun/

[BoyzNTheHood]

Who wants some potential draft day f*ckery? Now that the Spurs are 5th pre-lottery there's some potentially likely headaches that could arise depending on where the balls land.

If there's a Spurs pick from 7-9 now, we won't know whether it's ours or not until we hit the Top 4.

If it's 6 or 10 then we either jumped up or dropped down significantly and thus it conveyed.

They reveal it in the lottery as the Raptors pick even if it’s in a spot where it’s conveyed.

[LoveMyRaps]

I'm still on the big wings if we land in the top 6

Rischarer
Holland
C.Williams
Buzelis

Pacers pick - Ware/Kyshawn George/T.Salaun/

The thought of drafting Cody makes me nauseous.
No thanks.

[WuTang_CMB]

Who wants some potential draft day f*ckery? Now that the Spurs are 5th pre-lottery there's some potentially likely headaches that could arise depending on where the balls land.

If there's a Spurs pick from 7-9 now, we won't know whether it's ours or not until we hit the Top 4.

If it's 6 or 10 then we either jumped up or dropped down significantly and thus it conveyed.

Each pick gets unveiled. If the Raps/SAS pick show up on 8th or 7th, they will tell u the raps pick has now been conveyed to SA

[Psubs]

I'm still on the big wings if we land in the top 6

Rischarer
Holland
C.Williams
Buzelis

Pacers pick - Ware/Kyshawn George/T.Salaun/

The thought of drafting Cody makes me nauseous.
No thanks.

Taller Josh Richardson? Worse than his brother?

[mtcan]

Who wants some potential draft day f*ckery? Now that the Spurs are 5th pre-lottery there's some potentially likely headaches that could arise depending on where the balls land.

If there's a Spurs pick from 7-9 now, we won't know whether it's ours or not until we hit the Top 4.

If it's 6 or 10 then we either jumped up or dropped down significantly and thus it conveyed.

Each pick gets unveiled. If the Raps/SAS pick show up on 8th or 7th, they will tell u the raps pick has now been conveyed to SA

Exactly. The pick will be announced a Raptors pick but we will all know who it really belongs to.

[LoveMyRaps]

I'm still on the big wings if we land in the top 6

Rischarer
Holland
C.Williams
Buzelis

Pacers pick - Ware/Kyshawn George/T.Salaun/

The thought of drafting Cody makes me nauseous.
No thanks.

Taller Josh Richardson? Worse than his brother?

Somewhere between Jaden and Jalen McDaniels.

[OAKLEY_2]

Outside of Sarr, the guy near the top that makes the most sense alongside our core long-term is Topic.

Some will disagree because they'll argue Quickley is our PG. I love the progress IQ has made as a play maker but he isn't a true PG. Neither is Scottie. Neither is RJ. All three of those guys are good off ball players though.

Raptors could use an organizer to push their offense to the next level. Someone who actually creates good shots for others as appose to just making good reads. We haven't had a player like that since Kyle.

Long-term, Topic would likely push IQ to the bench where he's probably best suited as a high usage 6th man. I'd still like to re-sign Quickly because this process would take a couple years to play out (i.e. Topic starts out as back up PG and moves into the SL in year 2).

We also need another multi-dimensional forward though I don't see great options in the top 6.

Topic otoh is a good bet to work out and we could really use someone with his skillset.

He is a home run for us. Ditto Sarr and Castle. I cannot see Topic happening at 6 but I can see Reed Sheppard.

[RoteSchroder]

I'm still on the big wings if we land in the top 6

Rischarer
Holland
C.Williams
Buzelis

Pacers pick - Ware/Kyshawn George/T.Salaun/

The thought of drafting Cody makes me nauseous.
No thanks.

Ppl need to consider that around half the players (or more) mocked in the 1st round are likely to bust or be non-factors..and this is a weak draft at the top end. All the players pretty much have major flaws, but some have serious red flags that make them not worth drafting at their respective mocked position.

On another note, the top 8 of the 2021 draft was really solid. All of them turned out to be starting level NBA players, not sure if I've seen that before:

Cunningham
Green
Mobley
Barnes
Suggs
Giddey
Kuminga
Wagner

[OAKLEY_2]

Who wants some potential draft day f*ckery? Now that the Spurs are 5th pre-lottery there's some potentially likely headaches that could arise depending on where the balls land.

If there's a Spurs pick from 7-9 now, we won't know whether it's ours or not until we hit the Top 4.

If it's 6 or 10 then we either jumped up or dropped down significantly and thus it conveyed.

Each pick gets unveiled. If the Raps/SAS pick show up on 8th or 7th, they will tell u the raps pick has now been conveyed to SA

Exactly. The pick will be announced a Raptors pick but we will all know who it really belongs to.

It all goes in reverse order. 14 gets lotto ball selected first. If them cards do not show raps logo even at 6 start the party. It is 4 and up. 7 and 8 are more or less 50-50 with 6. Or so I tell myself. So if we haven't seen it at 8 big drumroll for calling the 7th!