Shams: Raps acquire Ingram for Brown + Olynyk + IND 1st

[Johnny Bball]

This opened up a roster spot no?

Orlando probably gets signed for the balance of the year.

[djsunyc]

I honestly hope that pick ends up being a top 5 pick in 2026 just so everyone saying "it's great value" will shut up.

This team isn't close to making any sort or noise, and we just gave up a 1st. I'd rather have used the pick to move up in the draff if Masai didn't want to keep it. Puke worthy trade IMO.

Translation: i want the worst possible outcome so i have more to complain and whine about to my hearts desire.

if it ends up top 4, indy keeps it. hating is worse when it's backed up with alternative facts lol.

[Johnny Bball]

Btw... nobody seems to have mentioned yet...if NOP can't move Brown and Olynyk by later today, they are only going to hurt their tank. They aren't injured.

[NinjaBro]

Only on the Raptors board are people crying about getting a 27 yr old 22 5 and 5 player for expiring scraps and a pick in the late teens to 20s. Absolute nuttiness.

[djsunyc]

it's been clear that we dont have a guy that can get a tough iso bucket in the halfcourt. we are trying to develop scottie there with not so great returns. ingram addresses that hole while we can still develop scottie too. now we just dont have to solely rely on scottie to do it which means we can win games too.

[ArthurVandelay]

I am not a fan of including the Pacers pick…at all.

At minimum it should have been worse of the 2026 firsts. I guess Masai going with his own bet on yourself.

Now I’m just praying they don’t mess up their 2025 pick.

[Risk101]

Only on the Raptors board are people crying about getting a 27 yr old 22 5 and 5 player for expiring scraps and a pick in the late teens to 20s. Absolute nuttiness.

It’s because he doesn’t fit the roster.

Players will clog up the lane daring him and RJ to shoot the ball. Not to mention he’s a ball dominant player. He’s going to try and force his game and in this system in won’t work.

We should tank the season and get a high pick in a very talented draft.

Not throw our chips into a team that would struggle to get out of the first round of a playoff series.

[KingFox]

LOVE this for you guys, i don't think it hurts a rebuild at all. Don't pay attention to anyone that craps on this deal as if Ingram is some over the hill 40 year old

[DreamTeam09]

This opened up a roster spot no?

I would think this would be to sign Orlando Robinson. Poeltl is hurt and no Kelly O means trouble protecting the rim. Orlando at least has moments.

We had a roster spot for Orlando already, we have one more now and still space to take on a little more money

[Anticon]

I am not a fan of including the Pacers pick…at all.

At minimum it should have been worse of the 2026 firsts. I guess Masai going with his own bet on yourself.

Now I’m just praying they don’t mess up their 2025 pick.

For me, the issue is why a team that is so strong at drafting sells a pick every year (25 -1st+ 2nd, 24 - 1st, 23-1st). For Ochai, Poeltl and Ingram. I don't think any other team is forced to burn assets like that so often.

[navyblue]

Only on the Raptors board are people crying about getting a 27 yr old 22 5 and 5 player for expiring scraps and a pick in the late teens to 20s. Absolute nuttiness.

It’s because he doesn’t fit the roster.

Players will clog up the lane daring him and RJ to shoot the ball. Not to mention he’s a ball dominant player. He’s going to try and force his game and in this system in won’t work.

We should tank the season and get a high pick in a very talented draft.

Not throw our chips into a team that would struggle to get out of the first round of a playoff series.

So he is both not going to work in the system here and also hurt the tank.

Also people making it seem like this is training camp and whole season ahead of us. In reality 2/3 of the season is done, and by the time he suits up there will be 1/5 season left in season.

[youngRAPZ]

This opened up a roster spot no?

I would think this would be to sign Orlando Robinson. Poeltl is hurt and no Kelly O means trouble protecting the rim. Orlando at least has moments.

We had a roster spot for Orlando already, we have one more now and still space to take on a little more money

Hopefully we lock up battle on a 4yr min okc style and sign ORob for the remainder of the year to be replaced by Maluach if we don’t jump up.

[ArthurVandelay]

I can already hear Bobby: “we made the trade because it was good value.”

Should have been worse of 2026 picks. My only complaint,

[youngRAPZ]

I am not a fan of including the Pacers pick…at all.

At minimum it should have been worse of the 2026 firsts. I guess Masai going with his own bet on yourself.

Now I’m just praying they don’t mess up their 2025 pick.

For me, the issue is why a team that is so strong at drafting sells a pick every year (25 -1st+ 2nd, 24 - 1st, 23-1st). For Ochai, Poeltl and Ingram. I don't think any other team is forced to burn assets like that so often.

Because picks aren’t everything. The front office clearly doesn’t see it that way.

[RapsFanInOhio]

I am not a fan of including the Pacers pick…at all.

At minimum it should have been worse of the 2026 firsts. I guess Masai going with his own bet on yourself.

Now I’m just praying they don’t mess up their 2025 pick.

For me, the issue is why a team that is so strong at drafting sells a pick every year (25 -1st+ 2nd, 24 - 1st, 23-1st). For Ochai, Poeltl and Ingram. I don't think any other team is forced to burn assets like that so often.

Some of it is circumstantial - here, they added an All-Star caliber guy and one of those was for Poeltl who has absolutely been worth that pick. But they’ve also openly talked about developing a finite number of guys at any given point, so some of it is philosophical.

The writing was on the wall for one of those picks next year as soon as they nailed the draft last year.

[Risk101]

Only on the Raptors board are people crying about getting a 27 yr old 22 5 and 5 player for expiring scraps and a pick in the late teens to 20s. Absolute nuttiness.

It’s because he doesn’t fit the roster.

Players will clog up the lane daring him and RJ to shoot the ball. Not to mention he’s a ball dominant player. He’s going to try and force his game and in this system in won’t work.

We should tank the season and get a high pick in a very talented draft.

Not throw our chips into a team that would struggle to get out of the first round of a playoff series.

So he is both not going to work in the system here and also hurt the tank.

Also people making it seem like this is training camp and whole season ahead of us. In reality 2/3 of the season is done, and by the time he suits up there will be 20ish games left in season.

This move is an obvious long term deal. He is not worth the money he is asking for nor the type of player that fits on a team with RJ and Poeltl.

Maybe Masai redeems himself in the future by trading away those player but paying Ingram 50 million a year pretty much keeps the main core him Quickley and Barnes going forward with whatever little that’s left over.

I’m sorry a core of those 3 aren’t going to cut it.

I don’t see it at all.

[Raps in 4]

I am not a fan of including the Pacers pick…at all.

At minimum it should have been worse of the 2026 firsts. I guess Masai going with his own bet on yourself.

Now I’m just praying they don’t mess up their 2025 pick.

Unless the Pacers have injuries, that pick is guaranteed to end up in the late teens/early 20s. Trading it isn't a big deal. I still don't get the point of the trade, but I'm not losing any sleep over what we gave up. This is not like the Yak trade where it was clear the team was heading towards a rebuild and that the pick would come back to haunt us, or like the Thad trade where we were trading a FRP for basically a player coach.

[RapsFanInOhio]

Btw... nobody seems to have mentioned yet...if NOP can't move Brown and Olynyk by later today, they are only going to hurt their tank. They aren't injured.

I would be shocked if Brown played a game for them.

[douggood]

I am not a fan of including the Pacers pick…at all.

At minimum it should have been worse of the 2026 firsts. I guess Masai going with his own bet on yourself.

Now I’m just praying they don’t mess up their 2025 pick.

Unless the Pacers have injuries, that pick is guaranteed to end up in the late teens/early 20s. Trading it isn't a big deal. I still don't get the point of the trade, but I'm not losing any sleep over what we gave up.

even if they have injuries they have enough depth to cover it at all position maybe besides C especially if Myles turner walks for free.

[douggood]

I am not a fan of including the Pacers pick…at all.

At minimum it should have been worse of the 2026 firsts. I guess Masai going with his own bet on yourself.

Now I’m just praying they don’t mess up their 2025 pick.

For me, the issue is why a team that is so strong at drafting sells a pick every year (25 -1st+ 2nd, 24 - 1st, 23-1st). For Ochai, Poeltl and Ingram. I don't think any other team is forced to burn assets like that so often.

i think 20+ team are in a pick deficit, so yeah team burn picks like this often.