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OT: WOJ: Anthony Davis requests trade; no intention of resigning with Pelicans

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Re: OT: WOJ: Anthony Davis requests trade; no intention of resigning with Pelicans 

Post#581 » by hankscorpioLA » Mon Jan 28, 2019 11:25 pm

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Yeah but like Kuzma or Ingram or whoever sure as **** aren’t frontline players or anything.


Lol , ask any GM in the league who they would rather have : Siakim + OG or Ingram + Kuzma and 99% would say Siakim + OG


I am not so sure about that.

At this moment, Siakam is probably the best player of the bunch, but he is also the oldest. Kuzma is one year younger and may have the most polished overall game. But even though he has regressed a bit this year, there is no question that the guy with the most potential of the four is still Ingram.
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Re: OT: WOJ: Anthony Davis requests trade; no intention of resigning with Pelicans 

Post#582 » by sidsid » Mon Jan 28, 2019 11:29 pm

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Depends what else you're giving up in that 3way that might push the trade out of favour. The limit being basically AD ending up on a team that's no better than what he has in NO, and him forcing his way out again.

But that bar can be really high. Upgrading from your generic all-star (Kyrie) to a real deal MVP candidate (AD) is massive. Look what it did to our team.


What did it do for our team? :lol:


Considering our bench has turned from an all time great one to a consistent negative, and that Lowry's shooting has cratered for 2/3rd of the year, Kawhi has carried it in a way DeRozan could never do.

The Celtics defense is held together by the old bones of Horford, and their offense can't get to the rim ever. AD makes those things better or solves the problems, and he puts up as many assists and scores more than Kyrie. Oh and he rebounds, which the Celtics don't. There are massive improvements to be had.
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Re: OT: WOJ: Anthony Davis requests trade; no intention of resigning with Pelicans 

Post#583 » by nabbs » Mon Jan 28, 2019 11:29 pm

If Siakam gets named an all star reserve, we're in the front seat boys
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Re: OT: WOJ: Anthony Davis requests trade; no intention of resigning with Pelicans 

Post#584 » by SurgeIblocka » Mon Jan 28, 2019 11:38 pm

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Yeah but like Kuzma or Ingram or whoever sure as **** aren’t frontline players or anything.


Lol , ask any GM in the league who they would rather have : Siakim + OG or Ingram + Kuzma and 99% would say Siakim + OG


I am not so sure about that.

At this moment, Siakam is probably the best player of the bunch, but he is also the oldest. Kuzma is one year younger and may have the most polished overall game. But even though he has regressed a bit this year, there is no question that the guy with the most potential of the four is still Ingram.


I can almost guarantee that Siakim will have a much better career than Ingram. Kuzma we will see but players like Kuzma you can get in the draft all the time. Rare talents like Siakim and his skillset are very hard to find. Someone who can defend all positions, has motor, can even play point forward. He is the closest thing there is in the league to a prime Draymond Green.
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Re: OT: WOJ: Anthony Davis requests trade; no intention of resigning with Pelicans 

Post#585 » by Dalek » Mon Jan 28, 2019 11:43 pm

All 28 other teams don't realize how much collusion is going on with Rich Paul, AD and Lebron. Like two weeks ago LBJ is saying he would love to play with AD. Then a trade demand from Rich Paul who reps Davis and James. New Orleans has come out to say that they want this type of transaction to be looked at.

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After this, stuff is leaking out that AD doesn't want to go to Boston because of uncertainty with Kyrie re-signing. I mean LA is in the driver's seat with this because Lebron wants this to happen. It is terrible that an agent and one player can control this, but with AD's trade demand it does put pressure on NO to deal.

My only hope is that James Dolan somehow steps up and deals a Knicks unprotected 2019 first for AD. It will at least delay the inevitable.
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Re: OT: WOJ: Anthony Davis requests trade; no intention of resigning with Pelicans 

Post#586 » by SurgeIblocka » Mon Jan 28, 2019 11:48 pm

This new leak of AD not wanting Boston helps us immensely! We might be the only team to not care if he wants to resign. So it may be between us an LA.

FFS the entire media said Kawhi doesn't want to be here with multiple reports from Kawhi's camp saying he wants to be in LA to try and stop Masai from trading for him. Then what happened, our Jedi Master traded for him anyways.

Come on Masai do this we have complete faith in you. If we were going all in on Kawhi then this trade makes absolute sense.
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Re: OT: WOJ: Anthony Davis requests trade; no intention of resigning with Pelicans 

Post#587 » by jimmy keys » Mon Jan 28, 2019 11:48 pm

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Double Helix wrote:Every one of the players mentioned in trade packages for Brow is a complimentary player though. Every single one of them is looking more like a tier 2 or tier 3 star than someone who will someday be a top 15 nba player.

Yeah, I dont think the players will make the difference. It will be the drafts picks.

NO is smart to wait until Boston can make a trade. They can put together the best package.


New Orleans is smart should never be the beginning of a sentence. Who says they'll wait or that's even the best option for them. They don't have to wait for Boston and won't. If Boston wants him they can make it happen, but it involves trading Kyrie to a 3rd team + including Tatum in the deal I'm guessing.
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Re: OT: WOJ: Anthony Davis requests trade; no intention of resigning with Pelicans 

Post#588 » by joshgc » Mon Jan 28, 2019 11:49 pm

I really hope NO does what SA did and ship AD to us as a big **** you to LA.
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Re: OT: WOJ: Anthony Davis requests trade; no intention of resigning with Pelicans 

Post#589 » by sogood » Mon Jan 28, 2019 11:53 pm

SurgeIblocka wrote:
hankscorpioLA wrote:
SurgeIblocka wrote:
Lol , ask any GM in the league who they would rather have : Siakim + OG or Ingram + Kuzma and 99% would say Siakim + OG


I am not so sure about that.

At this moment, Siakam is probably the best player of the bunch, but he is also the oldest. Kuzma is one year younger and may have the most polished overall game. But even though he has regressed a bit this year, there is no question that the guy with the most potential of the four is still Ingram.


I can almost guarantee that Siakim will have a much better career than Ingram. Kuzma we will see but players like Kuzma you can get in the draft all the time. Rare talents like Siakim and his skillset are very hard to find. Someone who can defend all positions, has motor, can even play point forward. He is the closest thing there is in the league to a prime Draymond Green.


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Re: OT: WOJ: Anthony Davis requests trade; no intention of resigning with Pelicans 

Post#590 » by Jordo960 » Mon Jan 28, 2019 11:55 pm

https://www.sbnation.com/nba/2019/1/28/18200424/anthony-davis-trades-pelicans-rumors-lakers-celtics-76ers

Every NBA team’s possible trade offer for Anthony Davis, ranked

8. Toronto Raptors
Pascal Siakam, Serge Ibaka, OG Anunoby, and a first-round pick (2021 or beyond). If Toronto wants to go all-in on keeping Kawhi Leonard, pairing him with AD will make it that much tougher for him to leave. That duo could reasonably take down Golden State.
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Re: OT: WOJ: Anthony Davis requests trade; no intention of resigning with Pelicans 

Post#591 » by NotMyKawhi » Tue Jan 29, 2019 12:01 am

Jordo960 wrote:https://www.sbnation.com/nba/2019/1/28/18200424/anthony-davis-trades-pelicans-rumors-lakers-celtics-76ers

Every NBA team’s possible trade offer for Anthony Davis, ranked

8. Toronto Raptors
Pascal Siakam, Serge Ibaka, OG Anunoby, and a first-round pick (2021 or beyond). If Toronto wants to go all-in on keeping Kawhi Leonard, pairing him with AD will make it that much tougher for him to leave. That duo could reasonably take down Golden State.


we are clearly #2 since Boston can't trade for him

Sixers aren't trading Simmons
The Pelicans don't want 3 expiring contracts and thon maker from the bucks
Dallas? not if Doncic isn't involved
BK maybe but they would only have AD if they traded for him


We are the only team that can trade for AD and still be a championship level team...we are getting him!
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Re: OT: WOJ: Anthony Davis requests trade; no intention of resigning with Pelicans 

Post#592 » by Ado05 » Tue Jan 29, 2019 12:08 am

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Re: OT: WOJ: Anthony Davis requests trade; no intention of resigning with Pelicans 

Post#593 » by Raps in 4 » Tue Jan 29, 2019 12:13 am

hankscorpioLA wrote:
SurgeIblocka wrote:
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Yeah but like Kuzma or Ingram or whoever sure as **** aren’t frontline players or anything.


Lol , ask any GM in the league who they would rather have : Siakim + OG or Ingram + Kuzma and 99% would say Siakim + OG


I am not so sure about that.

At this moment, Siakam is probably the best player of the bunch, but he is also the oldest. Kuzma is one year younger and may have the most polished overall game. But even though he has regressed a bit this year, there is no question that the guy with the most potential of the four is still Ingram.


Kuzma is the most overrated player in the NBA. Sure he might be "polished", but he's polished at being mediocre. He doesn't even sniff Pascal's impact.

Ingram is still a coveted prospect, but he hasn't actually shown any flashes of brilliance. He's being carried by potential alone.

Ball also sucks.

The Lakers chest of prospects is not very impressive.
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Re: OT: WOJ: Anthony Davis requests trade; no intention of resigning with Pelicans 

Post#594 » by Son Goku 25 » Tue Jan 29, 2019 12:21 am

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SurgeIblocka wrote:
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Yeah but like Kuzma or Ingram or whoever sure as **** aren’t frontline players or anything.


Lol , ask any GM in the league who they would rather have : Siakim + OG or Ingram + Kuzma and 99% would say Siakim + OG

They're all complementary players ultimately. I thought Ingram would be special and was a fan of his since high school, but he's like another Gerald Green to me now. A guy with superstar talent, but there's something missing. Kuzma is a role player plain and simple. OG is meh at this point, but Pascal is clearly the best of the bunch. He's a secondary player as well, but he's one that can defend all 5 positions depending on the specific matchup. He's more valuable than any of these guys to any team that wants to build a winner. He's also a good, but not great offensive weapon, so he likely doesn't hurt anyone's chances of finishing with a high lottery pick should they start a rebuild with him on the team. By the time you get your stud at the draft, Pascal will be the veteran on the team and still have his prime years remaining.


Siakam is the 2nd best player on the Lakers
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Re: OT: WOJ: Anthony Davis requests trade; no intention of resigning with Pelicans 

Post#595 » by Hero » Tue Jan 29, 2019 12:23 am

Going all in sounds good but other teams can offer more. It's an outside shot at best.
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Re: OT: WOJ: Anthony Davis requests trade; no intention of resigning with Pelicans 

Post#596 » by 6moomoo6 » Tue Jan 29, 2019 12:25 am

Offer whatever they want to try and pair Kawhi with AD and own the East for the near future. If Kawhi still bolts then flip AD for Boston's assets. Win win!
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Re: OT: WOJ: Anthony Davis requests trade; no intention of resigning with Pelicans 

Post#597 » by souljah006 » Tue Jan 29, 2019 12:27 am

You know...

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y7w856at

...one can dream

Raptors Trade: JV, Ibaka, Powell, FVV and CJ

Pelicans Trade: Anthony Davis, Mirotic and Jrue

Raptors Lineup:

AD/Mirotic/Monroe
Siakam/OG/Boucher
Kawhi/McCaw
Green/Delon
Lowry/Jrue

Hmmm....
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Re: OT: WOJ: Anthony Davis requests trade; no intention of resigning with Pelicans 

Post#598 » by Son Goku 25 » Tue Jan 29, 2019 12:27 am

Raps in 4 wrote:
hankscorpioLA wrote:
SurgeIblocka wrote:
Lol , ask any GM in the league who they would rather have : Siakim + OG or Ingram + Kuzma and 99% would say Siakim + OG


I am not so sure about that.

At this moment, Siakam is probably the best player of the bunch, but he is also the oldest. Kuzma is one year younger and may have the most polished overall game. But even though he has regressed a bit this year, there is no question that the guy with the most potential of the four is still Ingram.


Kuzma is the most overrated player in the NBA. Sure he might be "polished", but he's polished at being mediocre. He doesn't even sniff Pascal's impact.

Ingram is still a coveted prospect, but he hasn't actually shown any flashes of brilliance. He's being carried by potential alone.

Ball also sucks.

The Lakers chest of prospects is not very impressive.


I laugh at all these laker pieces lmao these guys are mad overrated, the league trying to get Lakers to be significant again so bad, especially since lebron is on the team.
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Re: OT: WOJ: Anthony Davis requests trade; no intention of resigning with Pelicans 

Post#599 » by Raps in 4 » Tue Jan 29, 2019 12:34 am

Son Goku 25 wrote:
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hankscorpioLA wrote:
I am not so sure about that.

At this moment, Siakam is probably the best player of the bunch, but he is also the oldest. Kuzma is one year younger and may have the most polished overall game. But even though he has regressed a bit this year, there is no question that the guy with the most potential of the four is still Ingram.


Kuzma is the most overrated player in the NBA. Sure he might be "polished", but he's polished at being mediocre. He doesn't even sniff Pascal's impact.

Ingram is still a coveted prospect, but he hasn't actually shown any flashes of brilliance. He's being carried by potential alone.

Ball also sucks.

The Lakers chest of prospects is not very impressive.


I laugh at all these laker pieces lmao these guys are mad overrated, the league trying to get Lakers to be significant again so bad, especially since lebron is on the team.


The NBA is going to pull an NFL and have an all-SoCal ref team for the Lakers in the playoffs.
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Re: OT: WOJ: Anthony Davis requests trade; no intention of resigning with Pelicans 

Post#600 » by souljah006 » Tue Jan 29, 2019 12:38 am

souljah006 wrote:You know...

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y7w856at

...one can dream

Raptors Trade: JV, Ibaka, Powell, FVV and CJ

Pelicans Trade: Anthony Davis, Mirotic and Jrue

Raptors Lineup:

AD/Mirotic/Monroe
Siakam/OG/Boucher
Kawhi/McCaw
Green/Delon
Lowry/Jrue

Hmmm....


It’s funny, because initially I put this in as a pipe dream but it is actually pretty interesting for NOP. This Trade let’s them drop over $74 million in salary in year 2021. In the meantime, they get relatively younger while evaluating what pieces will they want to invest in. These two years they also position themselves for a high draft pick...not as far fetched as I originally believed.
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