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Re: Team Canada Basketball Thread V3.0 

Post#581 » by Hair Canada » Mon Jun 28, 2021 3:12 am

TrueNorth31 wrote:Final roster - maybe ( with CB you never know ) ?

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If that's the final roster (certainly seems like it), then I'm a bit annoyed they dragged Edey to Victoria instead of letting him be a central player with the U19 team next week. Maybe it's not too late to set him free?
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Post#582 » by Kenter16 » Mon Jun 28, 2021 3:39 am

Hair Canada wrote:
TrueNorth31 wrote:Final roster - maybe ( with CB you never know ) ?

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If that's the final roster (certainly seems like it), then I'm a bit annoyed they dragged Edey to Victoria instead of letting him be a central player with the U19 team next week. Maybe it's not too late to set him free?

I thought I saw that they would name two alternates. Presumably these players will stay in Victoria. So he is not likely to go back to the u19s until after Vic. I don’t know what quarantine looks like after that.
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Post#583 » by TheFutureMM » Mon Jun 28, 2021 3:54 am

Hair Canada wrote:
TrueNorth31 wrote:Final roster - maybe ( with CB you never know ) ?

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If that's the final roster (certainly seems like it), then I'm a bit annoyed they dragged Edey to Victoria instead of letting him be a central player with the U19 team next week. Maybe it's not too late to set him free?


I was thinking the same thing. Can someone please refresh my memory? Didn't we make a decision like this before where we brought a couple young guys to practise with the Mens team and then they jetted off to join the Juniors afterwards? Was it Barrett and Nembhard or Barrett and Simi? Can't recall.
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Post#585 » by mojo13 » Mon Jun 28, 2021 6:24 am

TheFutureMM wrote:
Hair Canada wrote:
TrueNorth31 wrote:Final roster - maybe ( with CB you never know ) ?

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If that's the final roster (certainly seems like it), then I'm a bit annoyed they dragged Edey to Victoria instead of letting him be a central player with the U19 team next week. Maybe it's not too late to set him free?


I was thinking the same thing. Can someone please refresh my memory? Didn't we make a decision like this before where we brought a couple young guys to practise with the Mens team and then they jetted off to join the Juniors afterwards? Was it Barrett and Nembhard or Barrett and Simi? Can't recall.



It was Barrett and Simi that joined the 2016 u17 team late. I think they skipped the whole camp and joined directly the day before the tournament. That stacked team unsurprisingly underperformed.

Can’t quite recall what they were doing? They couldn’t have been with the senior team at that age? Maybe Barrett but I can’t quite remember.
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Post#586 » by TheFutureMM » Mon Jun 28, 2021 12:15 pm

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If that's the final roster (certainly seems like it), then I'm a bit annoyed they dragged Edey to Victoria instead of letting him be a central player with the U19 team next week. Maybe it's not too late to set him free?


I was thinking the same thing. Can someone please refresh my memory? Didn't we make a decision like this before where we brought a couple young guys to practise with the Mens team and then they jetted off to join the Juniors afterwards? Was it Barrett and Nembhard or Barrett and Simi? Can't recall.



It was Barrett and Simi that joined the 2016 u17 team late. I think they skipped the whole camp and joined directly the day before the tournament. That stacked team unsurprisingly underperformed.

Can’t quite recall what they were doing? They couldn’t have been with the senior team at that age? Maybe Barrett but I can’t quite remember.


Thank you - it was those two. I swear they were both with the Senior Team training with them as the Senior Team did exhibition games - I remember being upset as we had a really strong team that year and them being in camp might have swung the needle.

Just goes to show how long we've been following the team. I get Nembhard as an alternate but if Edey isn't even the 12th man, we need to get him with the U19 team.
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Post#587 » by BilboBanginz » Mon Jun 28, 2021 12:17 pm

So it probably came down to Doornekamp vs. Nembhard for the last spot and they chose to go with the guy with size + FIBA experience. Can't say I disagree. Powell is our tallest at like 6'9"?
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Post#588 » by Mattd97 » Mon Jun 28, 2021 12:27 pm

BilboBanginz wrote:So it probably came down to Doornekamp vs. Nembhard for the last spot and they chose to go with the guy with size + FIBA experience. Can't say I disagree. Powell is our tallest at like 6'9"?


Hes 6'7". And 35. And his experience equates to another world of Canada basketball that were trying to get rid of. One of failure and nepotism. He's never been good enough to make this team but his uncle was one of the coaches. It's the same crap we've been trying to weed out of this program forever. Honestly nembhard being involved over other guys is cause of this closeness to Barrett. We've got far better players out there than either of these guys.

It's really disheartening to be a huge fan of CB for decades and trying to get guys interested in this tournament and have them ask about who's not there and then make a joke about doornekamp still being on the team and then him actually making it.
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Post#589 » by Kenter16 » Mon Jun 28, 2021 1:41 pm

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BilboBanginz wrote:So it probably came down to Doornekamp vs. Nembhard for the last spot and they chose to go with the guy with size + FIBA experience. Can't say I disagree. Powell is our tallest at like 6'9"?


Hes 6'7". And 35. And his experience equates to another world of Canada basketball that were trying to get rid of. One of failure and nepotism. He's never been good enough to make this team but his uncle was one of the coaches. It's the same crap we've been trying to weed out of this program forever. Honestly nembhard being involved over other guys is cause of this closeness to Barrett. We've got far better players out there than either of these guys.

It's really disheartening to be a huge fan of CB for decades and trying to get guys interested in this tournament and have them ask about who's not there and then make a joke about doornekamp still being on the team and then him actually making it.

It is a little disheartening when you look at who’s not here. I think things would have been different if SGA and Murray we healthy. Both said they wanted to be here. That’s the part I find disheartening.
Definitely not disheartening that Doornekamp made the team. He’s been an excellent pro for a long long time. He may not be the most skilled, but he brings a ton to the team. Plus, he isn’t going to play. Not really worth worrying about him.
The thing we all need to remember is that we are heavy favourites. We have the most talent in Vitoria. There are concerns about our lack of exhibition games and our lack of size and our lack of play making, but none of that will matter. If the other teams want to dump the ball into the post every possession and grind it out, bring it on.

Nobody can match our athleticism, not even close. We will give defences nightmares. We have guys who can get to the basket with ease, world class shooters, guys who can get a bucket, all world defenders, world class pick and roll artists, bigs who can spread the floor, CoJo leading the way and Home court advantage. Let’s not forget a NBA championship coach, who is as creative as they come.

Our roster isn’t our best 12. But it is the best 12 that will be in Victoria. In a weeks time I will be posting about who we can get to join the team in Hawaii for the Olympic camp. Let’s go!
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Post#590 » by Kenter16 » Mon Jun 28, 2021 1:48 pm

Second point this morning…
Canada basketball desperately needs a PR person. The lack of communication from the guys is very frustrating. I should be seeing hype videos posted on Canada Basketballs Twitter, Instagram and website.
They should be making or sharing highlights of Lu, RJ and all the guys.
There is absolutely zero build up happening and it seems on purpose.
We have to be web sleuths to find out who’s at camp and who’s on rosters. The roster was leaked last night because it was on the FIBA site. Not because CB released it.
These are huge failings when you are trying to grow the sport and grow participation in he SMNT.
I would imagine they could find a couple people on this forum that could do a great job promoting the team if given some resources. You guys are on top of everything.

Anyways, rant over, back to hype man.
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Post#592 » by frumble » Mon Jun 28, 2021 2:03 pm

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BilboBanginz wrote:So it probably came down to Doornekamp vs. Nembhard for the last spot and they chose to go with the guy with size + FIBA experience. Can't say I disagree. Powell is our tallest at like 6'9"?


Hes 6'7". And 35. And his experience equates to another world of Canada basketball that were trying to get rid of. One of failure and nepotism. He's never been good enough to make this team but his uncle was one of the coaches. It's the same crap we've been trying to weed out of this program forever. Honestly nembhard being involved over other guys is cause of this closeness to Barrett. We've got far better players out there than either of these guys.

It's really disheartening to be a huge fan of CB for decades and trying to get guys interested in this tournament and have them ask about who's not there and then make a joke about doornekamp still being on the team and then him actually making it.


The nepotism under the previous regimes bothered me too, but who was available who is better than Doornekamp? I guess this is impossible to answer because we don't know who was available and wasn't invited to camp. But going by the guys who were in camp, who would you have taken over Doornekamp? Edey? Klassen?
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Post#593 » by TrueNorth31 » Mon Jun 28, 2021 2:26 pm

Smart decision on Edey , I feel bad for Nembhard but he'll get many shots in the future.

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Post#594 » by Mattd97 » Mon Jun 28, 2021 2:27 pm

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BilboBanginz wrote:So it probably came down to Doornekamp vs. Nembhard for the last spot and they chose to go with the guy with size + FIBA experience. Can't say I disagree. Powell is our tallest at like 6'9"?


Hes 6'7". And 35. And his experience equates to another world of Canada basketball that were trying to get rid of. One of failure and nepotism. He's never been good enough to make this team but his uncle was one of the coaches. It's the same crap we've been trying to weed out of this program forever. Honestly nembhard being involved over other guys is cause of this closeness to Barrett. We've got far better players out there than either of these guys.

It's really disheartening to be a huge fan of CB for decades and trying to get guys interested in this tournament and have them ask about who's not there and then make a joke about doornekamp still being on the team and then him actually making it.


The nepotism under the previous regimes bothered me too, but who was available who is better than Doornekamp? I guess this is impossible to answer because we don't know who was available and wasn't invited to camp. But going by the guys who were in camp, who would you have taken over Doornekamp? Edey? Klassen?


The camp roster made it hard, and almost certainly Ejim would've had his spot. I dont remember hearing kabengeles name from CB, but you'd hope he was asked. I dont follow what's going in in Europe closely enough schedule wise to know what a dyshawn pierre was doing? Wiljter? Shayok? I'd take shittu as a young big. I know it's a different role, but was Dylan ennis invited? Kenny Cherry? Naz Long?


I guess it's more just a case of cmon. I get that the way the roster they made available wilted away and we ended up with doornekamp. But its a crap look. Hey Wiggins welcome back, remember this? We're still this team! He shouldn't have been on the camp roster cause we all knew whatever needed to happen would happen to get him here. I'm a nihilist when it comes to him and this program. Just makes it so hard to get people excited when I have to admit that, yes, doornekamp is still on the team
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Post#595 » by Mattd97 » Mon Jun 28, 2021 2:33 pm

Kenter16 wrote: Plus, he isn’t going to play. Not really worth worrying about him.


Bennett, Ejim, Heslip, cojo, Nicholson, Powell, olynyk, sacre, scrubb, stauskas, wiggins, doornekamp.

Fair to say he was the 12th man there too. We know how that turned out.
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Post#596 » by Mattd97 » Mon Jun 28, 2021 2:46 pm

That being said, I've cheered for much worse canada teams with doornekamp so I'm hopeful we finally win one of these. Expecting big things from Wiggins and will be fun to actually get to watching him after a career spent on the west coast
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Post#597 » by TrueNorth31 » Mon Jun 28, 2021 2:52 pm

Matt love your passion for Canada Basketball , but it's time to give it a rest about Doornekamp.

It's funny how fans can get so emotional they lose total perspective. I still blame Dana Murzyn for the Flames losing the Stanley Cup in 1988.

Doornekamp is perfectly fine as the 11-12 man. Nepotism didn't him help carve out an 11 year European career , several of which were in the Euro League .

I finally got my Dana rage under control ( still working on Dennis Wideman and Sam Bennett though much to my wife's chagrin ) maybe it's time to drop the Dorny fury.
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Post#598 » by Syd-TK3 » Mon Jun 28, 2021 3:03 pm

So can anyone explain this tournament does only the winner get to go to tokyo?
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Post#599 » by frumble » Mon Jun 28, 2021 3:24 pm

Syd-TK3 wrote:So can anyone explain this tournament does only the winner get to go to tokyo?


Yes, only the winner qualifies for the Olympics.

There are two groups of three teams each. You play the other two teams in your group once each. Canada is in a group with Greece and China and plays Greece tomorrow and China on Wednesday (both games are at 4:00 Pacific).

The other group has Turkey, Uruguay, and the Czech Republic.

The top two in each group make the semifinals. The semis are on Saturday and the finals on Sunday.
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Post#600 » by NirvanaFC » Mon Jun 28, 2021 3:31 pm

Any streaming available for these games?

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