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Re: Draft Tifhread Part 8: 4th pick !!!! 

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Re: Draft Thread Part 8: 4th pick !!!! 

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Re: Draft Thread Part 8: 4th pick !!!! 

Post#583 » by Blood Orange » Sat Jul 10, 2021 1:52 am

PrinceAli wrote:CBS with an interesting mock draft

1. Cade
2. Suggs
3. Barnes
4. Mobley
5. Green
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13. Kuminga

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/nba-mock-draft-2021-scottie-barnes-goes-no-3-based-on-who-is-most-likely-to-have-the-best-nba-career/


Sounds about right 8-)
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Re: Draft Thread Part 8: 4th pick !!!! 

Post#584 » by C_Money » Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:06 am

It would be fricken hilarious if somebody chose Barnes before us. Not so funny if we chose him ourselves though.
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Post#585 » by Raptorfan2012 » Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:09 am

I have a weird feeling the Raptors have Mobley over Green on their board. Masai loves his defence and length; hunting for the next Giannis like player.
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Re: Draft Thread Part 8: 4th pick !!!! 

Post#586 » by simple_jack » Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:12 am

Raptorfan2012 wrote:I have a weird feeling the Raptors have Mobley over Green on their board. Masai loves his defence and length; hunting for the next Giannis like player.


I agree. I actually wouldn’t be surprised if their board looks like this:

1. Mobley
2. Cade
3. Suggs
4. Green
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Re: Draft Thread Part 8: 4th pick !!!! 

Post#587 » by WuTang_CMB » Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:33 am

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Raptorfan2012 wrote:I have a weird feeling the Raptors have Mobley over Green on their board. Masai loves his defence and length; hunting for the next Giannis like player.


I agree. I actually wouldn’t be surprised if their board looks like this:

1. Mobley
2. Cade
3. Suggs
4. Green


Been saying this as well. Mobley having permiter skills like a wing is what puts him over the top. The length combined with that just creates too many advantages. His floor is there and certainly the upside. This isnt boom or bust. Raps just need to season him.
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Re: Draft Thread Part 8: 4th pick !!!! 

Post#588 » by yodamaster » Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:34 am

C_Money wrote:It would be fricken hilarious if somebody chose Barnes before us. Not so funny if we chose him ourselves though.


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Post#589 » by KL78192020 » Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:43 am

C_Money wrote:It would be fricken hilarious if somebody chose Barnes before us. Not so funny if we chose him ourselves though.


But what if he ends up better than one of the "top 4". This happens all the time in drafts, there is usually a bust in the consensus top few picks, and guys picked later end up better sometimes.

In 2018 Bagley was a consensus top 4 pick, ended up a bust. In 2017 Fultz was a consensus top pick, also a bust, in 2015 it Okafor was a can't miss prospect.. and so it goes.

Not saying this the same situation, but there is no way all 4 end up stars, just based on odds one will be subpar or maybe even a bust.
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Re: Draft Thread Part 8: 4th pick !!!! 

Post#590 » by 10giz » Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:45 am

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C_Money wrote:It would be fricken hilarious if somebody chose Barnes before us. Not so funny if we chose him ourselves though.


But what if he ends up better than one of the "top 4". This happens all the time in drafts, there is usually a bust in the consensus top few picks, and guys picked later end up better sometimes.

In 2018 Bagley was a consensus top 4 pick, ended up a bust. In 2017 Fultz was a consensus top pick, also a bust, in 2015 it Okafor was a can't miss prospect.. and so it goes.

Not saying this the same situation, but there is no way all 4 end up stars, just based on odds one will be subpar or maybe even a bust.


Is there a single GM that you would trust choosing the right one more than Masai?
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Post#591 » by PD28 » Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:46 am

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C_Money wrote:It would be fricken hilarious if somebody chose Barnes before us. Not so funny if we chose him ourselves though.


But what if he ends up better than one of the "top 4". This happens all the time in drafts, there is usually a bust in the consensus top few picks, and guys picked later end up better sometimes.

In 2018 Bagley was a consensus top 4 pick, ended up a bust. In 2017 Fultz was a consensus top pick, also a bust, in 2015 it Okafor was a can't miss prospect.. and so it goes.

Not saying this the same situation, but there is no way all 4 end up stars, just based on odds one will be subpar or maybe even a bust.


I think Green (for defensive reasons and inability to put on strength/weight) and Mobley (lack of strength/development of a reliable jumper) are the most likely to bust.
Followed by Suggs not exactly busting but not getting better than an above average starter.
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Post#592 » by OAKLEY_2 » Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:55 am

Raptorfan2012 wrote:I have a weird feeling the Raptors have Mobley over Green on their board. Masai loves his defence and length; hunting for the next Giannis like player.


I guarantee it.

Barnes talks like Mike Tyson so mighty scared about his B-ball analytical problem solving. Oh and no way does Barnes go ahead of Mobley. Old media have to fill up the hours until the big day so... Mike Tyson ahead of Mobley. Uhm sure. What stir the pot projections will they do next week?
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Re: Draft Thread Part 8: 4th pick !!!! 

Post#593 » by OAKLEY_2 » Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:56 am

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KL78192020 wrote:
C_Money wrote:It would be fricken hilarious if somebody chose Barnes before us. Not so funny if we chose him ourselves though.


But what if he ends up better than one of the "top 4". This happens all the time in drafts, there is usually a bust in the consensus top few picks, and guys picked later end up better sometimes.

In 2018 Bagley was a consensus top 4 pick, ended up a bust. In 2017 Fultz was a consensus top pick, also a bust, in 2015 it Okafor was a can't miss prospect.. and so it goes.

Not saying this the same situation, but there is no way all 4 end up stars, just based on odds one will be subpar or maybe even a bust.


I think Green (for defensive reasons and inability to put on strength/weight) and Mobley (lack of strength/development of a reliable jumper) are the most likely to bust.
Followed by Suggs not exactly busting but not getting better than an above average starter.


Neither Green nor Mobley will bust.
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Re: Draft Thread Part 8: 4th pick !!!! 

Post#594 » by PD28 » Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:58 am

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But what if he ends up better than one of the "top 4". This happens all the time in drafts, there is usually a bust in the consensus top few picks, and guys picked later end up better sometimes.

In 2018 Bagley was a consensus top 4 pick, ended up a bust. In 2017 Fultz was a consensus top pick, also a bust, in 2015 it Okafor was a can't miss prospect.. and so it goes.

Not saying this the same situation, but there is no way all 4 end up stars, just based on odds one will be subpar or maybe even a bust.


I think Green (for defensive reasons and inability to put on strength/weight) and Mobley (lack of strength/development of a reliable jumper) are the most likely to bust.
Followed by Suggs not exactly busting but not getting better than an above average starter.


Neither Green nor Mobley will bust.


So by your assessment, which of the top 4 could be busts?
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Re: Draft Thread Part 8: 4th pick !!!! 

Post#595 » by OAKLEY_2 » Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:59 am

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KL78192020 wrote:
C_Money wrote:It would be fricken hilarious if somebody chose Barnes before us. Not so funny if we chose him ourselves though.


But what if he ends up better than one of the "top 4". This happens all the time in drafts, there is usually a bust in the consensus top few picks, and guys picked later end up better sometimes.

In 2018 Bagley was a consensus top 4 pick, ended up a bust. In 2017 Fultz was a consensus top pick, also a bust, in 2015 it Okafor was a can't miss prospect.. and so it goes.

Not saying this the same situation, but there is no way all 4 end up stars, just based on odds one will be subpar or maybe even a bust.


Is there a single GM that you would trust choosing the right one more than Masai?


Presti. Our draft room is a real team. And when I say Presti I am just saying I trust him as much as Masai.
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Re: Draft Thread Part 8: 4th pick !!!! 

Post#596 » by WuTang_CMB » Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:59 am

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But what if he ends up better than one of the "top 4". This happens all the time in drafts, there is usually a bust in the consensus top few picks, and guys picked later end up better sometimes.

In 2018 Bagley was a consensus top 4 pick, ended up a bust. In 2017 Fultz was a consensus top pick, also a bust, in 2015 it Okafor was a can't miss prospect.. and so it goes.

Not saying this the same situation, but there is no way all 4 end up stars, just based on odds one will be subpar or maybe even a bust.


I think Green (for defensive reasons and inability to put on strength/weight) and Mobley (lack of strength/development of a reliable jumper) are the most likely to bust.
Followed by Suggs not exactly busting but not getting better than an above average starter.


Neither Green nor Mobley will bust.


Getting drafted to which team plays a large part in it too. CLE got no idea what they doing vs going to Toronto. Chances are these players end up in a better position with TOR than CLE.
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Re: Draft Thread Part 8: 4th pick !!!! 

Post#597 » by OAKLEY_2 » Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:59 am

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I think Green (for defensive reasons and inability to put on strength/weight) and Mobley (lack of strength/development of a reliable jumper) are the most likely to bust.
Followed by Suggs not exactly busting but not getting better than an above average starter.


Neither Green nor Mobley will bust.


So by your assessment, which of the top 4 could be busts?


Net zero.
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Post#598 » by WuTang_CMB » Sat Jul 10, 2021 3:00 am

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Re: Draft Thread Part 8: 4th pick !!!! 

Post#599 » by KL78192020 » Sat Jul 10, 2021 3:02 am

10giz wrote:
KL78192020 wrote:
C_Money wrote:It would be fricken hilarious if somebody chose Barnes before us. Not so funny if we chose him ourselves though.


But what if he ends up better than one of the "top 4". This happens all the time in drafts, there is usually a bust in the consensus top few picks, and guys picked later end up better sometimes.

In 2018 Bagley was a consensus top 4 pick, ended up a bust. In 2017 Fultz was a consensus top pick, also a bust, in 2015 it Okafor was a can't miss prospect.. and so it goes.

Not saying this the same situation, but there is no way all 4 end up stars, just based on odds one will be subpar or maybe even a bust.


Is there a single GM that you would trust choosing the right one more than Masai?


Youre not reading correctly, thats why I'm saying if Barnes is picked over whoever else is there at 4th shouldn't be a blunder. Thats my point.
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Post#600 » by PD28 » Sat Jul 10, 2021 3:03 am

OAKLEY_2 wrote:
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Neither Green nor Mobley will bust.


So by your assessment, which of the top 4 could be busts?


Net zero.


Hmm given that's never happened since 1984 and 1996, I'd wager that aint gonna be true in 4 years lol
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