2021-22 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread

[Kingsway_fan]

We win the next three games, we are right in the thick of things again, with hopefully a healthier team to come with returns of OG and Birch.

MASSAI and Nurse are looking to win... we aren't trading anybody, at least not named Flynn or Dragic... at trade deadline, depending on where we are... things could change, but I doubt it as we are looking to get back into the playoffs...

[Psubs]

We win the next three games, we are right in the thick of things again, with hopefully a healthier team to come with returns of OG and Birch.

MASSAI and Nurse are looking to win... we aren't trading anybody, at least not named Flynn or Dragic... at trade deadline, depending on where we are... things could change, but I doubt it as we are looking to get back into the playoffs...

Also the #3 seed in the East is not that far away.

I think that Brooklyn and Chicago should hold onto the top 2 seeds barring injury.

[brownbobcat]

Siakam is an all-star PF. Even if we drafted the second coming of LeBron, you don't trade guys like that away for less than they're worth. You can't build a contender like that.

Masai has built a contender twice before exactly like that.

[Rapsfan07]

Siakam is an all-star PF. Even if we drafted the second coming of LeBron, you don't trade guys like that away for less than they're worth. You can't build a contender like that.

Masai has built a contender twice before exactly like that.

Which Masai are you talking about? The one who runs the Raptors has won every trade he's ever made.

The Ibaka, Gasol and Kawhi deals were the ones that put us over the edge. Not to mention the Vasquez deal that brought us Powell.

You can't trade away a dollar, get 25 cents in return and come out richer than the guy who you gave your dollar to. It doesn't make sense.

[brownbobcat]

Which Masai are you talking about? The one who runs the Raptors has won every trade he's ever made.

The Ibaka, Gasol and Kawhi deals were the ones that put us over the edge. Not to mention the Vasquez deal that brought us Powell.

You can't trade away a dollar, get 25 cents in return and come out richer than the guy who you gave your dollar to. It doesn't make sense.

I'm talking about the guy who traded away Carmelo and Gay for what seemed like an underwhelming return at first, but was better for the team in the long run.

There's a pretty good chance Siakam never makes a All Star team ever again, he's a 3rd banana. The idea that you're going to get an amazing young prospect for him is more of a fantasy than an actual possibility. Asset management isn't just about getting back a better player than what you gave away, age and contracts factor into it too.

[Raptorfan2012]

We win the next three games, we are right in the thick of things again, with hopefully a healthier team to come with returns of OG and Birch.

MASSAI and Nurse are looking to win... we aren't trading anybody, at least not named Flynn or Dragic... at trade deadline, depending on where we are... things could change, but I doubt it as we are looking to get back into the playoffs...

I would add Boucher and Svi as potential tradable candidates come the trade deadline. Either for younger assets (especially rim protecting bigs) or 2nd round picks.

[Morris_Shatford]

While there is a lot of talk regarding Siakam to the Kings who are desperate to get into the playoffs;

If at the deadline its not looking likely do they consider stripping down some of their older guys (The 28+ club) and just tank it out under a new coach?

If this is the case;
What does Richaun Holmes (28, 3 more years around 12m per left on deal) cost the Raps?

[Spida888]

This trade depends I guess on how you feel about Keon Johnson vs Malachi Flynn as prospects but how about Dragic and Flynn for Bledsoe, Keon, and the Clips 2nd. The 2nd and (upgrade to Keon as a prospect, if it is one) is compensation for Bledsoe guarantee for next year of 3.9 million. It could be stretched over 3 years @1.3 if you want. It also has the benefit of opening a tiny bit more wiggle room under the tax so we can use the 15th roster spot. Not sure if it is worth doing really.

It's an interesting thought. I would consider it. Keon is the better prospect due to his elite athleticism, but he needs to learn how to play basketball. Flynn can contribute more right now, but doesn't have much upside.

If that puts us into the tax, I would consider adding in Bonga or even Svi if we focus on development this year.

If Boucher doesn't net you much in a separate deal, maybe Clips wouldn't mind taking on Dragic + Boucher instead? Not sure if we can get another 2nd in this case.

[Zeno]

This trade depends I guess on how you feel about Keon Johnson vs Malachi Flynn as prospects but how about Dragic and Flynn for Bledsoe, Keon, and the Clips 2nd. The 2nd and (upgrade to Keon as a prospect, if it is one) is compensation for Bledsoe guarantee for next year of 3.9 million. It could be stretched over 3 years @1.3 if you want. It also has the benefit of opening a tiny bit more wiggle room under the tax so we can use the 15th roster spot. Not sure if it is worth doing really.

It's an interesting thought. I would consider it. Keon is the better prospect due to his elite athleticism, but he needs to learn how to play basketball. Flynn can contribute more right now, but doesn't have much upside.

If that puts us into the tax, I would consider adding in Bonga or even Svi if we focus on development this year.

If Boucher doesn't net you much in a separate deal, maybe Clips wouldn't mind taking on Dragic + Boucher instead? Not sure if we can get another 2nd in this case.

It would actually move us about 600k further under the tax so no need to add anything else. As far as adding Boucher, I’m not sure who I’d want from the Clips and really don’t think they want to add much salary this year on top of the crazy tax they are already paying for a nothing year. This trade is about the Clips getting out of Bledsoe’s 3.9 million next year which will really cost them in tax next year at the cost of a 2nd and perhaps downgrading a prospect(Keon to Malachi).

[Jadoogar]

Assuming Portland blows it up, how about Nurkic?
Raptors get Nurkic, Greg Brown III
Blazers get Precious Achuiwa, Chris Boucher, Malachi Flynn

Why for raptors? get a real starting center who's on an expiring contract
Why for blazers? get 2 young prospects without taking on any bad money (boucher expires)

This is all contingent on Blazers picking a direction
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y6plq6t9

[Kinger95]

Siakam is an all-star PF. Even if we drafted the second coming of LeBron, you don't trade guys like that away for less than they're worth. You can't build a contender like that.

Masai has built a contender twice before exactly like that.

Which Masai are you talking about? The one who runs the Raptors has won every trade he's ever made.

The Ibaka, Gasol and Kawhi deals were the ones that put us over the edge. Not to mention the Vasquez deal that brought us Powell.

You can't trade away a dollar, get 25 cents in return and come out richer than the guy who you gave your dollar to. It doesn't make sense.

When we traded for kawhi he was actually underrated at the time so kinda like a bmw and it turned out to be a Ferrari , plus reliable Danny was like a nice dodge caravan.

Considering we traded demar who everyone thought was a Escalade and ended up being a Chevy avalanche, yak was a Subaru and the pick turned out to be the 2nd last pick of the 1st round so kinda like a 5,000$ buick

Value is so subjective especially considering who’s available with the picks, what gets done with the cap space acquired, what guys do with adjusted roles and PT, not to mention the realization that once guys are in a 2nd organization you have a much more real sense of what they are intstead of wondering if they are in a good situation that maximizes them or vice versa

[Bowdystuda]

I very much like the idea of moving Pascal for a pair of young talents at the 1 and 5, but a couple of issues:

A third team is needed to give up rebuilding pieces to Orlando.

I'd love to have Bamba, but with his RFA status at the end of the year, he's worth more to Orlando than any other team will likely be willing to pay. The other downside is that if he looks as good with our system and culture as I think he would, he'd be up for a bigger contract than trying to swing something with Orlando in the summer.

That said, if the third team that wants Pascal can be resolved, I think we could do a lot worse than a haul like this.

According the the forums, a Siakam package can't pull someone like Haliburton, but I assume the brass has some players like Precious that they see something in that may not be utilized on their current team. I just hope they can nab a couple of them in a Siakam deal, similar to the Rudy Gay trade.

I think Orlando would jump at the chance to get Pascal. They have been "rebuilding" for years. They have 2 Centres starting and had 2 pgs starting (before Suggs injury) so it also makes sense from that perspective.

Sacramento is not a good partner for us. They would want to include Fox and that is a dealbreaker.

I cant see the Magic wanting Siakam as much as I am high on Cole and Bamba. They are waiting to get Isaac back and they are super high on him. They also have Wendel at the C. If they make a move for a player, it think it will be a for a big time SG or SF os Wagner can slide over to SG. I dont think they will be looking for another PF.

They got Cole at PG. Wagner at SF. Isaac at PF and Wendell at C. I dont think Orlando wants to move any of these 4. So thay leaves Suggs, Bamba, Hampton and 1st round picks to get a huge name. I also dont think they will make a big trade this year though. I think it will an off season trade for them.

[Jadoogar]

I very much like the idea of moving Pascal for a pair of young talents at the 1 and 5, but a couple of issues:

A third team is needed to give up rebuilding pieces to Orlando.

I'd love to have Bamba, but with his RFA status at the end of the year, he's worth more to Orlando than any other team will likely be willing to pay. The other downside is that if he looks as good with our system and culture as I think he would, he'd be up for a bigger contract than trying to swing something with Orlando in the summer.

That said, if the third team that wants Pascal can be resolved, I think we could do a lot worse than a haul like this.

According the the forums, a Siakam package can't pull someone like Haliburton, but I assume the brass has some players like Precious that they see something in that may not be utilized on their current team. I just hope they can nab a couple of them in a Siakam deal, similar to the Rudy Gay trade.

I think Orlando would jump at the chance to get Pascal. They have been "rebuilding" for years. They have 2 Centres starting and had 2 pgs starting (before Suggs injury) so it also makes sense from that perspective.

Sacramento is not a good partner for us. They would want to include Fox and that is a dealbreaker.

they haven't been rebuilding for years. They made the playoffs twice before last season. Their rebuild started at last year's trade deadline when they got rid of their best players. They have really only tanked for half a season

[Raptorfan2012]

https://open.spotify.com/show/6eZ9vePDUxrbAn3aoc7GEg

If you believe this Minni-based podcast, then there are rumors Chris Boucher is on the market. Will be an interesting few months.

[Rapsfan07]

https://open.spotify.com/show/6eZ9vePDUxrbAn3aoc7GEg

If you believe this Minni-based podcast, then there are rumors Chris Boucher is on the market. Will be an interesting few months.

Not surprising. He doesn't fit our timeline and is a relatively cheap stretch big on an expiring deal

[Van_Trump]

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/264929/Goran-Dragic-Would-Prefer-To-Join-Mavericks

How much would he prefer to join Mavericks?

5 Million dollars? 10 Million dollars?

How much money is he willing to forgo to make his dream happen?

[HumbleRen]

How do we get Cam Reddish, make it happen Masai.

[RiRuHoops]

Sexton, Okoro, lotto protected first for Trent Jr ? yay / nay ?

[Asif16]

Boucher is as good as gone from the raptors. Question is, is it going to be a package deal with Dragic or separate.

Depending on where the Raptors are before the trade deadline (they could very well be in the thick of it)......Masai may want to hang on to Boucher and Dragic until than for any potential Salary Matching Purposes?

Even though any large deal seems unlikley, it's def a possibilty

[Asif16]

Off the top of my Head, Minnesota/Phoenix/Chicago are 3 teams that make sense for Chris Boucher.