Stein/Fischer: Toronto willing to deal RJ Barrett, IQ, Poeltl for Significant Upgrades // #9 Available

[CazOnReal]

I genuinely have no idea what an RJ/Blazers trade looks like. Maybe they take on Jerami Grant's contract?

[sidsid]

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I just don't know if I buy them really wanting him unless they just want to flip him at the deadline. It seems to be all rumors. II don't know that those guys have a lot of direct sources for that stuff anyway. I know they are reputable and have been around a long time, but only someone like Shams really has the connections I would trust and I think if Toronto was really in the mix, he'd say aomething. If he reports it I will buy it. Honestly it wouldn't surprise me if Sidery mentions it and some of those guys like Stein, Fischer or whoever, mention "they've heard the Raptors could be in the mix"....after all Stein only has a subscriber only substack now and wants people to pay to read him.

It makes absolutely zero sense. The only rationale I can come up with that is a stretch is that they want Barnes to play in more meaningful games, don't like this draft at all, are low on Barrett and just want to dump his contract, and they feel they could flip KD for someone at the deadline when teams may want him more.

So get off Barrett, Poeltl money, use a draft pick you don't like, then flip KD for something you do like at the deadline. That makes some sense for a savvy manager.

But it's a crap deal anyway.

I definitely see why they would love to get off $27 million for Barrett a year and $20 million for Poeltl...it's like they are able to dump assets for a better asset they can deal when teams are more desperate at the deadline. Say they like Jalen Green a lot more than Barrett...and would hope to get another 1st back anyway, or they like what they hear MIami is offering so they could unload big salary they don't like and move KD for players they do like and a pick.

That is the only rationale I can think of if I'm the Raptors, which really isn't a bad rationale.

Yup.
I see Raptors potentially trading with Spurs, Rockets before deadline to get younger pieces and draft picks if KD doesn't work out for them. They know KD will sign extensions with those teams.

So Raptors being savvy and cunning clearing space trying out KD and then getting players they want before deadline if KD doesn't work out... they get their cake and eat it too situation.


Suns need not budge. Keep KD if offers are bad or extend him and he becomes more appealing trade piece.

Makes sense, chess no checkers, we prob wont want to pay RJ and expect Poetl to be too expensive

more importantly, we cant pay all of Ingram KD and Giannis...

We still got Scottie, IQ, Dick, and all the picks left for Giannis after getting KD, and itll sure be a lot more appealing for Giannis to leave the Bucks at that point

Not really. What they are describing is a mitigation plan if KD asks out midseason for whatever reason. Then we recoup some assets on worse deals.

Masai will have no problems selling ownership on 2-3 years of the tax if it lines up with a KD extension (if Giannis joins). If he's trading for KD it's because he wants him for the playoffs.

[WuTang_CMB]

when posting the twitter clickbait, at least make an effort to go to the original source and post that.

https://clutchpoints.com/nba/toronto-raptors/raptors-sources-trade-interest-kings-malik-monk

I really hate unclear nonsense writing like this.

If a trade with the Phoenix Suns for Kevin Durant doesn't end up happening, league sources tell ClutchPoints they have other targets in mind. The Raptors have demonstrated interest in acquiring Kings guard Malik Monk in a potential trade, with that interest dating back at least to February's trade deadline.

The Kings weren't actively shopping their marquee players then. But the team is now under new management. The extent to which GM Scott Perry is actually willing to deal any of Sacramento's marquee players is unknown.

League sources say the Kings have been listening to trade offers from other teams. But that could be Perry simply gathering intelligence on his new roster. The Durant trade saga playing out will allow other pieces of the NBA offseason to fall into place. If Sacramento decides that trading Monk could potentially serve them best long term, they'll have at least one suitor for him in Toronto.

Perry, because of his time with the New York Knicks, has preexisting relationships with at least two Raptors. Barrett and Quickley could be worth monitoring as part of any potential return in a deal for Monk. One question remains paramount in any hypothetical, though. Do the Raptors think that Monk is the ‘significant roster upgrade' they'd trade one of the two former Knicks for?

RJ for Monk isn't even a near salary match either, so it doesn't make much sense unless the Kings are including JV or Ellis/Carter

Perry wants IQ. He wants a PG and had him in NY

[Brinbe]

I genuinely have no idea what an RJ/Blazers trade looks like. Maybe they take on Jerami Grant's contract?

lol why would we have any interest in grant?





we'd be replacing yak with one of their Cs

[Brinbe]

when posting the twitter clickbait, at least make an effort to go to the original source and post that.

https://clutchpoints.com/nba/toronto-raptors/raptors-sources-trade-interest-kings-malik-monk

I really hate unclear nonsense writing like this.

If a trade with the Phoenix Suns for Kevin Durant doesn't end up happening, league sources tell ClutchPoints they have other targets in mind. The Raptors have demonstrated interest in acquiring Kings guard Malik Monk in a potential trade, with that interest dating back at least to February's trade deadline.

The Kings weren't actively shopping their marquee players then. But the team is now under new management. The extent to which GM Scott Perry is actually willing to deal any of Sacramento's marquee players is unknown.

League sources say the Kings have been listening to trade offers from other teams. But that could be Perry simply gathering intelligence on his new roster. The Durant trade saga playing out will allow other pieces of the NBA offseason to fall into place. If Sacramento decides that trading Monk could potentially serve them best long term, they'll have at least one suitor for him in Toronto.

Perry, because of his time with the New York Knicks, has preexisting relationships with at least two Raptors. Barrett and Quickley could be worth monitoring as part of any potential return in a deal for Monk. One question remains paramount in any hypothetical, though. Do the Raptors think that Monk is the ‘significant roster upgrade' they'd trade one of the two former Knicks for?

RJ for Monk isn't even a near salary match either, so it doesn't make much sense unless the Kings are including JV or Ellis/Carter

Perry wants IQ. He wants a PG and had him in NY

They already have Devin Carter and Keon Ellis. But if they want IQ, trade for those two plus Monk and we're better off.

[CazOnReal]

lol why would we have any interest in grant?





we'd be replacing yak with one of their Cs

No one is touching Ayton with a 10-foot pole, let alone giving up two good NBA players for a guy who clearly isn't in it for the love of the game and has stagnated ever since being traded to the Blazers.

And if your center replacement is the perpetually unavailable Timelord...good luck with that.

[WuTang_CMB]

when posting the twitter clickbait, at least make an effort to go to the original source and post that.

https://clutchpoints.com/nba/toronto-raptors/raptors-sources-trade-interest-kings-malik-monk

I really hate unclear nonsense writing like this.



RJ for Monk isn't even a near salary match either, so it doesn't make much sense unless the Kings are including JV or Ellis/Carter

Perry wants IQ. He wants a PG and had him in NY

They already have Devin Carter and Keon Ellis. But if they want IQ, trade for those two plus Monk and we're better off.

Devin isn't ready. Keon isn't a PG. IQ is their target but Toronto isn't doing that

[Brinbe]

lol why would we have any interest in grant?





we'd be replacing yak with one of their Cs

No one is touching Ayton with a 10-foot pole, let alone giving up two good NBA players for a guy who clearly isn't in it for the love of the game and has stagnated ever since being traded to the Blazers.

And if your center replacement is the perpetually unavailable Timelord...good luck with that.

so we'll go with an over the hill overpaid grant?

bro's just chatting crap

and next time before you go running off to reddit with info I posted, at least get the info right

[bballsparkin]

Wait, that's a heavy top 5. - why wouldn't KD wanna go there,

Ant
McDaniels
KD
Randle
Naz

Trade Randle and keep NAW

It's very cold in the winter?

[Brinbe]

Perry wants IQ. He wants a PG and had him in NY

They already have Devin Carter and Keon Ellis. But if they want IQ, trade for those two plus Monk and we're better off.

Devin isn't ready. Keon isn't a PG. IQ is their target but Toronto isn't doing that

ready for what? he's a way better prospect and defender. Keon is also their best POA defender.

anyway, next time post the sources instead of just spamming twitter slop

[WuTang_CMB]

They already have Devin Carter and Keon Ellis. But if they want IQ, trade for those two plus Monk and we're better off.

Devin isn't ready. Keon isn't a PG. IQ is their target but Toronto isn't doing that

ready for what? he's a way better prospect and defender. Keon is also their best POA defender.

anyway, next time post the sources instead of just spamming twitter slop

Ready to be a lead guard in a stacked western conference. He didn't do anything last season. Perry already leaked they want a starting PG. Keon isn't a PG ? What dont u get?

Post what? Lol. I didn't even post the Monk news. Salam.

[RapsFanInOhio]

Monk? I’m sorry, what?

Did Masai lose his GD mind?

For RJ, why not?

RJ is a better player than Monk.

[RapsFanInOhio]

These rumors all sound like a disaster waiting to happen. Here is hoping none of this **** is true.

We're reliving Bryan Colangelo

For real! Twilight zone.

[earthtone]

Maybe the 'big fish' is actually Jake Fischer, and he's taking the bait of all these stupid rumours we're floating around?

Yah, I’d be a lot more inclined to believe all these rumours if we hadn’t alessi tested for BI

We’ve played a total of 0 games with the guy who’s going to be the highest paid player on our roster next season. Don’t think there’s any rush internally to make a big splash, I think they’re just staying tuned in to the market.

[earthtone]

These rumors all sound like a disaster waiting to happen. Here is hoping none of this **** is true.

We're reliving Bryan Colangelo

For real! Twilight zone.

Lets judge an FO by the deals they make, not offseason rumours

[WWSRD]

Maybe the 'big fish' is actually Jake Fischer, and he's taking the bait of all these stupid rumours we're floating around?

Yah, I’d be a lot more inclined to believe all these rumours if we hadn’t alessi tested for BI

We’ve played a total of 0 games with the guy who’s going to be the highest paid player on our roster next season. Don’t think there’s any rush internally to make a big splash, I think they’re just staying tuned in to the market.

I think the current roster, even with BI, is not generating any buzz or interest in the team (sample size of me).

Flipping 1,2 or 3 of the starters for 1,2 or 3 new starters will allow franchise to re-set, re-market and potentially renew interest in a franchise that has only deteriorated since 2019.

Will it pay off basketball wise? I don't know but I'm guessing internal testing is showing Raptors are losing grip on city/country's interest.

[Gavin_TDThree]

maybe the "big fish" are the friendships we made along the way

[CazOnReal]

lol why would we have any interest in grant?





we'd be replacing yak with one of their Cs

No one is touching Ayton with a 10-foot pole, let alone giving up two good NBA players for a guy who clearly isn't in it for the love of the game and has stagnated ever since being traded to the Blazers.

And if your center replacement is the perpetually unavailable Timelord...good luck with that.

so we'll go with an over the hill overpaid grant?

bro's just chatting crap

and next time before you go running off to reddit with info I posted, at least get the info right

With Grant it's a salary dump/a positional change so one of Dick/Walter would start at SG hence the included future pick but by all means continue with the hostility over your inability to view the trade you're getting mad over.

It shouldn't be controversial to say that Grant makes more sense for this roster than "Dominayton" but apparently that needed to be spelled out.

Post what? Lol. I didn't even post the Monk news. Salam.

Bud's seeing things that don't exist and not seeing things that are there.

[RapsFanInOhio]

We're reliving Bryan Colangelo

For real! Twilight zone.

Lets judge an FO by the deals they make, not offseason rumours

Totally fair.

[ForeverTFC]

Monk? I’m sorry, what?

Did Masai lose his GD mind?

For RJ, why not?

RJ is a better player than Monk.

A lot of players are better than Alex Caruso but Caruso is more valuable than a lot of those player.

In a vacuum, I agree with your assertion on RJ. But in our team context - similar to most teams in the NBA - Monk has more value than RJ.