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Help me figure this out please-Why no JV in the 4th?

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Re: Why Casey Doesn't Play Jonas Val in the 4Q 

Post#61 » by Steelo Green » Thu Feb 28, 2013 10:15 pm

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Lucky26 wrote:Yesterday was the first time I got visibly upset and yelled at Casey through the TV.

The ORG is clearly trying to prop up Bargs so they can get something of value for him; but if you're trying to make the playoffs, why would you put a fourth scorer along with Rudy, Kyle, and Demar, when you are obviously lacking that Defense below the rim.

How Val looked last night, especially with Amir, I was shocked he didn't play the entire 4th. DC played him very litlle in the 3rd because he had 3 fouls, which turned out to be useless as he never got back in.

Casey almost never plays Val down the stretch of games and it screws with the team because they have to play a different style.

This team will never really develop, until Val gets 35-40 min. and Ross gets around 20. Landry Fields and Bargs/Gray are holding back our boys.


Did you see how many TO he had in the paint last night? Yes, he's playing some great defense; but he's a liability offensively. Granted that AB has been atrocious all year doesn't change the fact that Bargs is more gifted offensively.

You wanting to watch him play doesn't equal what's best for the team or his development.

Huh? He had what 5 offensive rebounds in the first half yesterday? Bargs is more talented offensively? 0 points really shows that, doesn't it. Rebounding, defense, effort, post scoring. All better than Bargs. He can't even hit wide open shots. He's done at least as a Raptor. Stop loving in 13 game Bargnani land. So many players have played so much better for so much longer periods of time and fallen flat on their face (Amare) and now no one wants them. Who the hell wants a guy who had a good 13 game stretch. Honestly some people need to give it up.
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Re: Help me figure this out please-Why no JV in the 4th? 

Post#62 » by Clutch Carter » Thu Feb 28, 2013 10:29 pm

Listen this has nothing to do with propping up Bargs.

Do you guys recall last night he put in Gray in late third, early 4th. He could have easily played Bargs Val but he chose Gray over Val.

This is all on Casey, nobody else.
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Re: Why Casey Doesn't Play Jonas Val in the 4Q 

Post#63 » by Spacing » Fri Mar 1, 2013 12:07 am

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Wolf_Cry wrote:
He wasn't a good coach in MN. He was half-bad half-good. Thing is, the guy can is really good at teaching young players techniques and what not, but he is horrible at handling games and his rotations are off the line weird at times. Also, he stuck with veterans for WAY too long when we should've been playing our young guys more. I don't hate Casey, but I am really glad he's not coaching my Wolves anymore.


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I'm not saying Randy Foye would've been a star or anything but Casey definitely wasn't helping him. Casey was fired because he was too inconsistent and he wasn't giving the young players much playing time.
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Re: Help me figure this out please-Why no JV in the 4th? 

Post#64 » by Yoga » Fri Mar 1, 2013 12:15 am

Come on mods, sticky this thread, so the media can be aware of this issue
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Re: Why Casey Doesn't Play Jonas Val in the 4Q 

Post#65 » by bigbadstevenson » Fri Mar 1, 2013 1:51 am

BIG match wrote:Val has been missing rotations almost as bad as Bargs aswell


Are you just taking Casey's word for it?
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Re: Help me figure this out please-Why no JV in the 4th? 

Post#66 » by Ducksplatt » Fri Mar 1, 2013 4:27 am

cjcfman wrote:You guys are missing why Casey did it. Derozan had it going tonight, rudy somewhat. Having Val inside clogs up the paint. Having Andrea out on the perimeter gives more space for Derozan to drive to the basket which he did awesome tonight


I understand your point but what happens next year and the year after when Jonas gets stronger and demands more minutes? Do we keep taking him out so Derozen and Rudy can drive to the basket? They need to co-exist...maybe have a play drawn up that pulls out JV (and his man) at times.
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