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Post#61 » by Rapsobsessed7 » Thu Jun 6, 2013 5:48 pm

Don't know if ATL would do this but

To TOR: Jason Richardson + Josh Smith
To ATL: Demar Derozan + Spencer Hawes
To PHI: Andrea Bargnani

Why this might make some sense is because

For TOR you upgrade the PF spot drastically while clearing out the redundancy of Demar/Rudy (I love Demar though). Smith & Rudy are also good friends and Richardson can provide outside shooting.

For ATL you get a shooting C to put beside Horford who would look good in a jump shooting offense. Demar is the main piece for them in a S&T

For PHI you clear Richardsons contract and get a guy your supposedly very interested in to put beside Bynum

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Jason Richardson / Terrence Ross
Rudy Gay / Landry Fields
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Post#62 » by CreaM » Thu Jun 6, 2013 6:24 pm

Most of these proposals are just straight up ridiculous
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Post#63 » by r3dturtl3 » Thu Jun 6, 2013 6:39 pm

What do you guys think about trading JV straight up for DeMarcus Cousins?
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Post#64 » by Edwardo » Thu Jun 6, 2013 6:43 pm

r3dturtl3 wrote:What do you guys think about trading JV straight up for DeMarcus Cousins?

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Post#65 » by DG88 » Thu Jun 6, 2013 6:50 pm

The one trade I see possibly happening is this

To TOR: Humphries + 2013 1st rounder

To BKN: Bargnani + Cash considerations

We get Humphries expiring contract and a late first rounder in this years draft.
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Post#66 » by [SJJ] » Thu Jun 6, 2013 6:52 pm

DG88 wrote:The one trade I see possibly happening is this

To TOR: Humphries + 2013 1st rounder

To BKN: Bargnani + Cash considerations

We get Humphries expiring contract and a late first rounder in this years draft.


Not a terrible loot for Bargnani. Wouldn't be surprised to see something around these parameters happen too.
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Post#67 » by Hassassin » Thu Jun 6, 2013 7:02 pm

DG88 wrote:The one trade I see possibly happening is this

To TOR: Humphries + 2013 1st rounder

To BKN: Bargnani + Cash considerations

We get Humphries expiring contract and a late first rounder in this years draft.



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Post#68 » by DG88 » Thu Jun 6, 2013 7:19 pm

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DG88 wrote:The one trade I see possibly happening is this

To TOR: Humphries + 2013 1st rounder

To BKN: Bargnani + Cash considerations

We get Humphries expiring contract and a late first rounder in this years draft.



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:lol: Glad you like that trade. When you look at it's a very realistic trade. We know that the Nets aren't enamoured with Humphries anymore. I doubt they would value a late first round pick (22th) especially since they have inspiration of being a Championship contender. Adding Bargs to their roster would help space their offense for Brook Lopez and they have Wallace as a rebounder plus Reggie Evans so they can compensate for Bargs lack of rebounding. Also Prokorov doesn't care about how much money is being spent and with Billy King as a GM he can be suckered into taking Bargs. On our perspective Humphries can still be a nice back up big and he's been here before so it's not really a new situation or him. His 12 million expiring is huge for us cap wise and getting a late pick in this years draft to stash on our bench, something Masai has talked about, would be nice. For me a young back up C would be nice, like Jeff Withey would be a nice addition.
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Post#69 » by Edwardo » Thu Jun 6, 2013 7:26 pm

Having trouble seeing why the Nets would give up the 1st round pick WITH the better player and better contract??
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Post#70 » by TheGoodDoctor » Thu Jun 6, 2013 7:53 pm

DG88 wrote:The one trade I see possibly happening is this

To TOR: Humphries + 2013 1st rounder

To BKN: Bargnani + Cash considerations

We get Humphries expiring contract and a late first rounder in this years draft.


I would love this trade considering what other options are available.

We then would have $15M off the books (Kleiza + Hump) and with Masai's drafting talent maybe we pick up something decent in the draft. It would certainly make it easy to draft Kabongo.
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Post#71 » by douggood » Thu Jun 6, 2013 7:53 pm

Edwardo wrote:Having trouble seeing why the Nets would give up the 1st round pick WITH the better player and better contract??

same here. A trade for Gay makes sense for them, Humps Brooks, 22nd pick this year and a future pick.
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Post#72 » by RaptorLakerJay » Thu Jun 6, 2013 8:22 pm

DG88 wrote:The one trade I see possibly happening is this

To TOR: Humphries + 2013 1st rounder

To BKN: Bargnani + Cash considerations

We get Humphries expiring contract and a late first rounder in this years draft.


I like this trade but the Nets would then have two of the worst duo of big men rebounders. Can you imagine having Lopez and Bargnani as your back-court. You're talking about 10 rebounds combined.

For the Raptors, we can perhaps two very consistent power forwards that will give you 10/10 every game.
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Post#73 » by Roland Brice » Thu Jun 6, 2013 8:54 pm

DG88 wrote:The one trade I see possibly happening is this

To TOR: Humphries + 2013 1st rounder

To BKN: Bargnani + Cash considerations

We get Humphries expiring contract and a late first rounder in this years draft.


I've posted an expanded version of this, but Humphries for Bargnani makes little sense for Brooklyn in my opinion. They give up a guy who's expiring sooner and willing to do the dirty work. Bargnani at best will just be another version of what Blatche already does for them. My version is for Rudy Gay instead, which is very plausible if we decide to blow it up, plus we also get Brooks, Taylor, and Thomas Robinson from Houston in my version (page 1 of this thread).
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Post#74 » by TheGoodDoctor » Thu Jun 6, 2013 8:58 pm

Roland Brice wrote:
DG88 wrote:The one trade I see possibly happening is this

To TOR: Humphries + 2013 1st rounder

To BKN: Bargnani + Cash considerations

We get Humphries expiring contract and a late first rounder in this years draft.


I've posted an expanded version of this, but Humphries for Bargnani makes little sense for Brooklyn in my opinion. They give up a guy who's expiring sooner and willing to do the dirty work. Bargnani at best will just be another version of what Blatche already does for them. My version is for Rudy Gay instead, which is very plausible if we decide to blow it up, plus we also get Brooks, Taylor, and Thomas Robinson from Houston in my version (page 1 of this thread).


If their deal was centered around this year's pick AND next year's I would be down for it.
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Post#75 » by WigginsNation » Thu Jun 6, 2013 9:55 pm

Roland Brice wrote:I think this scenario helps all teams involved while also allowing us to completely tear the roster down.

First and foremost, amnesty Bargnani.

Trade 1: TOR/BKN/HOU

From TOR: Rudy Gay
To TOR: Kris Humphries (exp), Tyshawn Taylor, Marshon Brooks, Thomas Robinson, BKN 2013 Pick (22)


We cut out a massive salary for an expiring, young prospects and a pick.

From BKN: Kris Humphries, Tyshawn Taylor, Marshon Brooks, Tornike Shengelia, 2013 Pick (22)
To BKN: Rudy Gay


They add another piece to their maxed out roster. They can put a lineup out there of Williams/Johnson/Gay/Wallace/Lopez.

From HOU: Thomas Robinson
To HOU: Tornike Shengelia


They cut Robinson's salary in their pursuit of Howard.


Trade 2: TOR/CHI

From TOR: DeMar DeRozan
To TOR: Richard Hamilton (exp), Kirk Hinrich (exp)


We unload DeMar for 2 expirings.

From CHI: Richard Hamilton, Kirk Hinrich
To CHI: DeMar DeRozan


They get a 6th man to come off the bench behind Jimmy Butler.


Trade 3: TOR/LAL/OKC

From TOR: Amir Johnson, Kyle Lowry, Landry Fields
To TOR: Thabo Sefolosha (exp), Chris Duhon (exp), Jeremy Lamb, Nick Collison


We unload the last of our long term deals and acquire another prospect in Lamb.

From LAL: Pau Gasol, Chris Duhon
To LAL: Kendrick Perkins, Amir Johnson, Kyle Lowry, Landry Fields


They take on two bad deals, but also two very good high PER players in Johnson and Lowry. Essentially this is a reload scenario where they remove an issue in the Gasol/Howard debacle while strengthening their roster. Lowry & Nash/Bryant/MWP/Johnson/Howard & Perkins.

From OKC: Kendrick Perkins, Thabo Sefolosha, Nick Collison, Jeremy Lamb
To OKC: Pau Gasol


They unload Perkins and get back another (semi) star in Gasol to make a healthy run at the title next year with a big 3 of their own.


We move forward with the following roster (minus expirings). The largest contracts are Jonas/T-Rob, each at under 4 million annually.

Taylor
Ross/Lamb
Brooks
Robinson/Acy
Valanciunas

+BKN Pick (22 this year)



I really like those trade ideas. We would lose a ton of games next year ensuring a high 2014 draft pick, while at the same time picking up young prospects like Jeremy Lamb and Thomas Robinson. Also we would have enough cap space to get a couple major FAs in the summer of 2014. Those are some great ideas man, I hope Masai goes this route!
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Post#76 » by WigginsNation » Thu Jun 6, 2013 10:08 pm

The raptors need to trade all our hefty salary guys (gay, bargs, demar, fields, lowry) for expiring contracts, prospects and draft picks. That should be Masai's game plan! It would create major cap space in 2014, help us attain a very high pick in 2014 and we'd have new prospects to develop like thomas robinson, jeremy lamb to add to our already young and talented core of Ross and Val.
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Post#77 » by Roland Brice » Thu Jun 6, 2013 10:11 pm

TheGoodDoctor wrote:
Roland Brice wrote:I've posted an expanded version of this, but Humphries for Bargnani makes little sense for Brooklyn in my opinion. They give up a guy who's expiring sooner and willing to do the dirty work. Bargnani at best will just be another version of what Blatche already does for them. My version is for Rudy Gay instead, which is very plausible if we decide to blow it up, plus we also get Brooks, Taylor, and Thomas Robinson from Houston in my version (page 1 of this thread).


If their deal was centered around this year's pick AND next year's I would be down for it.


That is probably plausible, their pick will probably be in the mid 20's next year.

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I really like those trade ideas. We would lose a ton of games next year ensuring a high 2014 draft pick, while at the same time picking up young prospects like Jeremy Lamb and Thomas Robinson. Also we would have enough cap space to get a couple major FAs in the summer of 2014. Those are some great ideas man, I hope Masai goes this route!


Finally a response! That's exactly what I was going for. I would assume we could get a top-5 pick in next years draft because I honestly don't see us being better than anyone with that team.
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Post#78 » by WigginsNation » Thu Jun 6, 2013 10:20 pm

Roland Brice wrote:
TheGoodDoctor wrote:
Roland Brice wrote:I've posted an expanded version of this, but Humphries for Bargnani makes little sense for Brooklyn in my opinion. They give up a guy who's expiring sooner and willing to do the dirty work. Bargnani at best will just be another version of what Blatche already does for them. My version is for Rudy Gay instead, which is very plausible if we decide to blow it up, plus we also get Brooks, Taylor, and Thomas Robinson from Houston in my version (page 1 of this thread).


If their deal was centered around this year's pick AND next year's I would be down for it.


That is probably plausible, their pick will probably be in the mid 20's next year.

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I really like those trade ideas. We would lose a ton of games next year ensuring a high 2014 draft pick, while at the same time picking up young prospects like Jeremy Lamb and Thomas Robinson. Also we would have enough cap space to get a couple major FAs in the summer of 2014. Those are some great ideas man, I hope Masai goes this route!


Finally a response! That's exactly what I was going for. I would assume we could get a top-5 pick in next years draft because I honestly don't see us being better than anyone with that team.


Whats also awesome about those trades is it would create major cap space to attract two major free agents!

Two high profile free agents along with our young and talented core of Val, Ross, Robinson and Lamb plus 2013 and 2014 draft picks would be a step in the right direction!
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Post#79 » by Roland Brice » Thu Jun 6, 2013 10:29 pm

BCfortheWin wrote:
Roland Brice wrote:
TheGoodDoctor wrote:
If their deal was centered around this year's pick AND next year's I would be down for it.


That is probably plausible, their pick will probably be in the mid 20's next year.

BCfortheWin wrote:
I really like those trade ideas. We would lose a ton of games next year ensuring a high 2014 draft pick, while at the same time picking up young prospects like Jeremy Lamb and Thomas Robinson. Also we would have enough cap space to get a couple major FAs in the summer of 2014. Those are some great ideas man, I hope Masai goes this route!


Finally a response! That's exactly what I was going for. I would assume we could get a top-5 pick in next years draft because I honestly don't see us being better than anyone with that team.


Whats also awesome about those trades is it would create major cap space to attract two major free agents!

Two high profile free agents along with our young and talented core of Val, Ross, Robinson and Lamb plus 2013 and 2014 draft picks would be a step in the right direction!


And while I realize we're getting WAY ahead of ourselves, as well as daydreaming to the max here are some names to add to that top-5 pick we would almost certainly get in 2014: John Wall, Kobe Bryant, Paul George, Dwyane Wade, Carmelo Anthony, LeBron James, DeMarcus Cousins, Greg Monroe and Tony Parker. Imagine a combo of Wall and a matured Cousins, Monroe or George? :o
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Post#80 » by Hassassin » Thu Jun 6, 2013 11:02 pm

DG88 wrote:
Hassassin wrote:
DG88 wrote:The one trade I see possibly happening is this

To TOR: Humphries + 2013 1st rounder

To BKN: Bargnani + Cash considerations

We get Humphries expiring contract and a late first rounder in this years draft.



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:lol: Glad you like that trade. When you look at it's a very realistic trade. We know that the Nets aren't enamoured with Humphries anymore. I doubt they would value a late first round pick (22th) especially since they have inspiration of being a Championship contender. Adding Bargs to their roster would help space their offense for Brook Lopez and they have Wallace as a rebounder plus Reggie Evans so they can compensate for Bargs lack of rebounding. Also Prokorov doesn't care about how much money is being spent and with Billy King as a GM he can be suckered into taking Bargs. On our perspective Humphries can still be a nice back up big and he's been here before so it's not really a new situation or him. His 12 million expiring is huge for us cap wise and getting a late pick in this years draft to stash on our bench, something Masai has talked about, would be nice. For me a young back up C would be nice, like Jeff Withey would be a nice addition.


I think it only works because Billy King is there. Otherwise it doesn't make sense. Same reason why I like Washington as a destination for Rudy Gay and Bargnani. :lol:

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