The answer to all our problems... JEREMY LIN

agentzero2010 · Post #61 » by **agentzero2010** » Sun Nov 10, 2013 4:04 pm

Rockets would never do this trade because they make a ton of money selling Lin ads to the asian market and lowry had a feud with mchale when he was in houston

Local_NG_Idiot · Post #62 » by **Local_NG_Idiot** » Sun Nov 10, 2013 4:07 pm

HOU just traded Lowry a year ago for known problems in getting along with McHale. Why would they take him back as a 1 year rental to watch him walk at the end of the season?

As for Lin? He's lost his starting job to Beverly. That should tell you everything you need to know about Lin.

willywazza · Post #63 » by **willywazza** » Sun Nov 10, 2013 4:08 pm

vexen wrote:
Choker wrote:Jeremy Lin would actually make this team better. He would usurp Landry Fields (lol) as the team's best pick and roll player, and that would mean we would be able to focus the offense on our two most efficient scorers, Valanciunas and Amir. Lowry's style of playmaking caters to DeRozan and Gay who are inefficient.

Sorry to break it to you but Lin would be the 4th PG on the raptors depth chart.

This is the most idiotic thing I've ever read.

Komodo · Post #64 » by **Komodo** » Sun Nov 10, 2013 4:16 pm

He'd be better than Lowry and would probably make this team better. It's an interesting though because of the marketing appeal it would have to Bell/Rogers, but I don't really want anything to do with him, nor do I think Houston wants anything we have. Maybe Novak, but I doubt they'd move anything for him.

Komodo · Post #65 » by **Komodo** » Sun Nov 10, 2013 4:17 pm

Lowry and Novak for Lin and Jones wouldn't be too bad.

zilby · Post #66 » by **zilby** » Sun Nov 10, 2013 4:20 pm

No thank you. Jeremy Lin is overwhelmingly mediocre. Would much rather Lowry.

Son Goku 25 · Post #67 » by **Son Goku 25** » Sun Nov 10, 2013 4:24 pm

Is it me, or have the MODS recently gotten pretty easy going and allow for almost any type of discussion? lol This thread would have been locked right away before but it seems the mods are more open to these stuff. Not taking a shot at OP cuz I understand you have all the right to start a thread if you feel its worth it, and I would have done the same.

steamed hams · Post #68 » by **steamed hams** » Sun Nov 10, 2013 4:26 pm

Lowry for JL3. I miss him as a tank commander. Plus, he allows us to play small.

TdotRap4Lyfe · Post #69 » by **TdotRap4Lyfe** » Sun Nov 10, 2013 4:27 pm

Lowry + DJ + Gray for Lin + 2014 pick/Terrance Jones, and I'll take it.

Yorkex · Post #70 » by **Yorkex** » Sun Nov 10, 2013 4:28 pm

i will bench lowry and start stone before making that trade

devilsace · Post #71 » by **devilsace** » Sun Nov 10, 2013 4:29 pm

Lin is a highly overpaid mediocre PG...Hes not even starting on the Rockets anymore and lost his starting spot to Patrick Beverly...How many more mediocre players do you want on this team?

JN · Post #72 » by JN » Sun Nov 10, 2013 5:00 pm

I don't think he is that bad a player (average NBA player that is overpaid)... but he does not have much of the marketing appeal anymore.

Still seems there are some people think that the only reason for Linsanity was that he was Asian.

No he was Asian, from Harvard, career D league player, waived a few times, had a tremendous stretch of 7 games on a severely injured and underachieving team, leading them to a win streak, with exciting endings, played fascinating basketball in the largest media market in the world.

It was a great story and that was the appeal. No doubt the Asian aspect helped. It was a great month long story, but it died... it simply could not be maintained.

But now he is just regular NBA player that is Asian. It will attract a few fans but OP must be one of those who did not understand why it was such a great story two years ago if he thinks it will be a massive draw.

firekil · Post #73 » by **firekil** » Sun Nov 10, 2013 5:07 pm

You people are hating on Lin for what? Not averaging 30/10? He averaged 13/6 last season, the same numbers he put up during Linsanity. He's been the most efficient player on the Rockets team so far, and doing it with a low USG rate. I say something like Asik+Lin for Gay would be great, but I doubt Houston needs that trade.

Post #74 » by **Hassassin** » Sun Nov 10, 2013 5:07 pm

Choker wrote:
vexen wrote:Sorry to break it to you but Lin would be the 4th PG on the raptors depth chart.

Your opinion is wrong.

He is drinking some strong haterade there. Lin has a TS% of 64.6%, FTr of .600 and eFG of 59.2%. He is 5th in the league in drives per game and shoots 57% on those drives to the 10 feet area of the basket.

In Synergy, he is scoring .94 points per play while allowing .83 points per play. For comparison, Lowry is scoring the same points per play, but allowing .94 points per play. Lin has attempted 72 defensive plays, while Lowry has attempted 55.

The main issue with him is his very high TOV rate (23.3%). That is way too high for a PG. But otherwise, not only is he playing better than all of our PGs, but helps bring in more fans.

Local_NG_Idiot · Post #75 » by **Local_NG_Idiot** » Sun Nov 10, 2013 5:14 pm

Hassassin wrote:
Choker wrote:
vexen wrote:Sorry to break it to you but Lin would be the 4th PG on the raptors depth chart.

Your opinion is wrong.

He is drinking some strong haterade there. Lin has a TS% of 64.6%, FTr of .600 and eFG of 59.2%. He is 5th in the league in drives per game and shoots 57% on this drives to the 10 feet area of the basket.

In Synergy, he is scoring .94 points per play while allowing .83 points per play. For comparison, Lowry is scoring the same points per play, but allowing .94 points per play. Lin has attempted 72 defensive plays, while Lowry has attempted 55.

The main issue with him is his very high TOV rate (23.3%). That is way too high for a PG. But otherwise, not only is he playing better than all of our PGs, but helps bring in more fans.

What do you thing the reason/reasons are for HOU starting Beverly over him?

whysoserious · Post #76 » by **whysoserious** » Sun Nov 10, 2013 5:17 pm

Losing over the course of a season with Lin at PG is not going to keep ratings up. You'll get an initial boost but this team won't draw if they're losing and have anything exciting.

Post #77 » by **Hassassin** » Sun Nov 10, 2013 5:17 pm

Local_NG_Idiot wrote:
Hassassin wrote:
Choker wrote:
Your opinion is wrong.

He is drinking some strong haterade there. Lin has a TS% of 64.6%, FTr of .600 and eFG of 59.2%. He is 5th in the league in drives per game and shoots 57% on this drives to the 10 feet area of the basket.

In Synergy, he is scoring .94 points per play while allowing .83 points per play. For comparison, Lowry is scoring the same points per play, but allowing .94 points per play. Lin has attempted 72 defensive plays, while Lowry has attempted 55.

The main issue with him is his very high TOV rate (23.3%). That is way too high for a PG. But otherwise, not only is he playing better than all of our PGs, but helps bring in more fans.

What do you thing the reason/reasons are for HOU starting Beverly over him?

I guess they like his defensive intensity in the starting lineup. Lin is a much better scorer than him, but fit wise, it makes sense to have him come off the bench since the team already has high usage guys in the starting lineup.

pkiskool · Post #78 » by **pkiskool** » Sun Nov 10, 2013 5:26 pm

Hassassin wrote:
Choker wrote:
vexen wrote:Sorry to break it to you but Lin would be the 4th PG on the raptors depth chart.

Your opinion is wrong.

He is drinking some strong haterade there. Lin has a TS% of 64.6%, FTr of .600 and eFG of 59.2%. He is 5th in the league in drives per game and shoots 57% on those drives to the 10 feet area of the basket.

In Synergy, he is scoring .94 points per play while allowing .83 points per play. For comparison, Lowry is scoring the same points per play, but allowing .94 points per play. Lin has attempted 72 defensive plays, while Lowry has attempted 55.

The main issue with him is his very high TOV rate (23.3%). That is way too high for a PG. But otherwise, not only is he playing better than all of our PGs, but helps bring in more fans.

+1

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Post #79 » by **Hassassin** » Sun Nov 10, 2013 5:27 pm

Here is a Lin trade that I would do:

Raptors trade Rudy Gay and Kyle Lowry, receive Jeremy Lin, Caron Butler, Giannis Antetokounmpo, Donatas Motiejunas.

Bucks trade Ersan Ilyasova, Caron Butler, Giannis Antetokounmpo, Luke Ridnour. They receive Rudy Gay and Kyle Lowry.

Rockets trade Jeremy Lin and Donatas Motiejunas. Rockets receive Ersan Ilyasova and Luke Ridnour.

Local_NG_Idiot · Post #80 » by **Local_NG_Idiot** » Sun Nov 10, 2013 5:30 pm

Hassassin wrote:I guess they like his defensive intensity in the starting lineup. Lin is a much better scorer than him, but fit wise, it makes sense to have him come off the bench since the team already has high usage guys in the starting lineup.

And those are the exact reasons why I don't agree it is a good trade for the Raps. Lowry is the superior defender, and with the high usage and ISO offense by Gay and DD, he doesn't fit.

Maybe this works as a follow up trade if one or both of DD and Gay are gone, but then it all depends on what comes back in those trades to justify the extra year of salary Lin comes with.