Bruno Caboclo discussion thread

m83588333 · Post #61 » by **m83588333** » Sat Jul 12, 2014 8:50 pm

The quote made the #20 pick more important than it should have. If MU took him #37 nobody notices but at #20 opinions on Bruno are everywhere. Same prestige as drafting top 10.

Southward1 · Post #62 » by **Southward1** » Sat Jul 12, 2014 8:56 pm

Looking at him in the first summer league game, Casey was pretty accurate in his comparison to Rashard Lewis. That 3 ball is going to be Bruno's bread and butter, but he also moves well without the ball and has potential to be a really good defender (Which I always thought Lewis was underrated in).

Kabookalu · Post #63 » by **Kabookalu** » Sun Jul 13, 2014 8:28 pm

I asked Jazz fans if Dante Exum did any special training to improve his athleticism because he looks far more athletic now than he did in the Nike Hoops Summit.

TeaM DimE wrote:After he declared for the draft like 6 months ago he hired a personal trainer and worked out 6+ hours a day every day in LA. From what i hear his work ethic is incredible.

People were worried because Exum hasn't played organized ball in close then a year but not going to college actually benefited him. There were no NCAA restrictions on how much he could practice or he didn't have worry about school work.

With a year with our trainers I hope Bruno undergoes the same transformation.

DeadHorse · Post #64 » by **DeadHorse** » Sun Jul 13, 2014 8:34 pm

He's looking solid but I really don't agree with Casey and Masai saying he can guard four positions. He has the quickness to guard threes and fours.. And doesn't have the strength to guard the four

TankNation123 · Post #65 » by **TankNation123** » Sun Jul 13, 2014 9:09 pm

gonna be a sweet ride to see how great he'll become down the road.. only concern i have right now is his quickness .. he seems really slow to me LOL.

simple_jack · Post #66 » by **simple_jack** » Sun Jul 13, 2014 9:12 pm

Choker wrote:I asked Jazz fans if Dante Exum did any special training to improve his athleticism because he looks far more athletic now than he did in the Nike Hoops Summit.

TeaM DimE wrote:After he declared for the draft like 6 months ago he hired a personal trainer and worked out 6+ hours a day every day in LA. From what i hear his work ethic is incredible.

People were worried because Exum hasn't played organized ball in close then a year but not going to college actually benefited him. There were no NCAA restrictions on how much he could practice or he didn't have worry about school work.

With a year with our trainers I hope Bruno undergoes the same transformation.

Aussies love to workout.

It's part of their culture now.

markdeez33 · Post #67 » by **markdeez33** » Sun Jul 13, 2014 9:27 pm

In case any one missed it in the other threads, I posted it in (Didn't see this thread til now, so mods forgive me)

Fran was right.... 2 years away from being 2 years away (from winning the MVP)

The Raptors offered me a deal I couldn't refuse

Clearly Ujiri does not run the team in Ultimate NBA 2K14, and I had to get him!

azorian · Post #68 » by **azorian** » Sun Jul 13, 2014 11:16 pm

markdeez33 wrote:In case any one missed it in the other threads, I posted it in (Didn't see this thread til now, so mods forgive me)

Fran was right.... 2 years away from being 2 years away (from winning the MVP)

The Raptors offered me a deal I couldn't refuse

Clearly Ujiri does not run the team in Ultimate NBA 2K14, and I had to get him!

They update 2k14 with new rookies? I might pick it up instead of 2k15 now

GP2 · Post #69 » by **GP2** » Sun Jul 13, 2014 11:37 pm

azorian wrote:
markdeez33 wrote:In case any one missed it in the other threads, I posted it in (Didn't see this thread til now, so mods forgive me)

Fran was right.... 2 years away from being 2 years away (from winning the MVP)

The Raptors offered me a deal I couldn't refuse

Clearly Ujiri does not run the team in Ultimate NBA 2K14, and I had to get him!

They update 2k14 with new rookies? I might pick it up instead of 2k15 now

Certainly a mod

MixxSRC · Post #70 » by **MixxSRC** » Mon Jul 14, 2014 12:09 am

Choker wrote:I asked Jazz fans if Dante Exum did any special training to improve his athleticism because he looks far more athletic now than he did in the Nike Hoops Summit.

TeaM DimE wrote:After he declared for the draft like 6 months ago he hired a personal trainer and worked out 6+ hours a day every day in LA. From what i hear his work ethic is incredible.

People were worried because Exum hasn't played organized ball in close then a year but not going to college actually benefited him. There were no NCAA restrictions on how much he could practice or he didn't have worry about school work.

With a year with our trainers I hope Bruno undergoes the same transformation.

Colleges are looking bad right now

Thespianoid · Post #71 » by **Thespianoid** » Mon Jul 14, 2014 12:47 am

Choker wrote:
TeaM DimE wrote:After he declared for the draft like 6 months ago he hired a personal trainer and worked out 6+ hours a day every day in LA. From what i hear his work ethic is incredible.

People were worried because Exum hasn't played organized ball in close then a year but not going to college actually benefited him. There were no NCAA restrictions on how much he could practice or he didn't have worry about school work.

With a year with our trainers I hope Bruno undergoes the same transformation.

I wouldn't be so sure. I don't think our trainers have ever successfully improved anything relating to a player's physical condition. Examples - Slower, less athletic DeMar, Fat/Slow Rudy, Fat/Slow Jonas.

Alex McKechnie doesn't count, as he makes sure players stay fit and don't get injuries. I don't believe he has much to do with strength/athleticism/mobility training.

Chriscross · Post #72 » by **Chriscross** » Mon Jul 14, 2014 12:58 am

Thespianoid wrote:
Choker wrote:
TeaM DimE wrote:After he declared for the draft like 6 months ago he hired a personal trainer and worked out 6+ hours a day every day in LA. From what i hear his work ethic is incredible.

People were worried because Exum hasn't played organized ball in close then a year but not going to college actually benefited him. There were no NCAA restrictions on how much he could practice or he didn't have worry about school work.

With a year with our trainers I hope Bruno undergoes the same transformation.

I wouldn't be so sure. I don't think our trainers have ever successfully improved anything relating to a player's physical condition. Examples - Slower, less athletic DeMar, Fat/Slow Rudy, Fat/Slow Jonas.

Alex McKechnie doesn't count, as he makes sure players stay fit and don't get injuries. I don't believe he has much to do with strength/athleticism/mobility training.

Scott McCullough was hired in 2006. You don't think they have ever been successful at improving any players physical condition?

Chris Bosh would be one, no?

Kabookalu · Post #73 » by **Kabookalu** » Mon Jul 14, 2014 12:59 am

Thespianoid wrote:I wouldn't be so sure. I don't think our trainers have ever successfully improved anything relating to a player's physical condition. Examples - Slower, less athletic DeMar, Fat/Slow Rudy, Fat/Slow Jonas.

Alex McKechnie doesn't count, as he makes sure players stay fit and don't get injuries. I don't believe he has much to do with strength/athleticism/mobility training.

Man that's true

The only development related personnel we've had that I felt was worth a damn was Mark Hopla.

Roland Brice · Post #74 » by **Roland Brice** » Mon Jul 14, 2014 1:04 am

Choker wrote:
Thespianoid wrote:I wouldn't be so sure. I don't think our trainers have ever successfully improved anything relating to a player's physical condition. Examples - Slower, less athletic DeMar, Fat/Slow Rudy, Fat/Slow Jonas.

Alex McKechnie doesn't count, as he makes sure players stay fit and don't get injuries. I don't believe he has much to do with strength/athleticism/mobility training.

Man that's true

The only development related personnel we've had that I felt was worth a damn was Mark Hopla.

Dave Hopla. What an epic shooting coach.

MikeM · Post #75 » by **MikeM** » Mon Jul 14, 2014 1:13 am

Bruno's very athletic.

I think he looks slow with the ball because his handles aren't good enough to go at top speed. WIthout the ball he's pretty quick and fluid. I also think that even though he looks slower with the ball, he has a good awareness of defenders around him and he uses his body well in traffic.

He has a lot of great NBA level athletic qualities. He has lateral quickness, ability to jump multiple times quickly and body control. For his size he has quick feet.

He might have only an average max vert and first step though.

Thespianoid · Post #76 » by **Thespianoid** » Mon Jul 14, 2014 1:19 am

Chriscross wrote:
Scott McCullough was hired in 2006. You don't think they have ever been successful at improving any players physical condition?

Chris Bosh would be one, no?

I guess Bosh could be counted as one. But that was a while ago.

I still don't think they've had any successes in recent years. Only notable miscues/failures.

m83588333 · Post #77 » by **m83588333** » Mon Jul 14, 2014 1:21 am

MikeM wrote:Bruno's very athletic.

I think he looks slow with the ball because his handles aren't good enough to go at top speed. WIthout the ball he's pretty quick and fluid. I also think that even though he looks slower with the ball, he has a good awareness of defenders around him and he uses his body well in traffic.

He has a lot of great NBA level athletic qualities. He has lateral quickness, ability to jump multiple times quickly and body control. For his size he has quick feet.

He might have only an average max vert and first step though.

It also takes him fewer steps and a little hop to get to the rim. He can touch the rim on his tip toes. Short, stubby guys just look athletic because it takes more effort.

Chriscross · Post #78 » by **Chriscross** » Mon Jul 14, 2014 1:29 am

Thespianoid wrote:
Chriscross wrote:
Scott McCullough was hired in 2006. You don't think they have ever been successful at improving any players physical condition?

Chris Bosh would be one, no?

I guess Bosh could be counted as one. But that was a while ago.

I still don't think they've had any successes in recent years. Only notable miscues/failures.

I guess not. :lol:

raptor jesus · Post #79 » by **raptor jesus** » Mon Jul 14, 2014 1:30 am

Thespianoid wrote:
Choker wrote:
TeaM DimE wrote:After he declared for the draft like 6 months ago he hired a personal trainer and worked out 6+ hours a day every day in LA. From what i hear his work ethic is incredible.

People were worried because Exum hasn't played organized ball in close then a year but not going to college actually benefited him. There were no NCAA restrictions on how much he could practice or he didn't have worry about school work.

With a year with our trainers I hope Bruno undergoes the same transformation.

I wouldn't be so sure. I don't think our trainers have ever successfully improved anything relating to a player's physical condition. Examples - Slower, less athletic DeMar, Fat/Slow Rudy, Fat/Slow Jonas.

Alex McKechnie doesn't count, as he makes sure players stay fit and don't get injuries. I don't believe he has much to do with strength/athleticism/mobility training.

You can add Bargs to that list, too. Now, he was probably always doomed to fail because of his disposition, but forcing him to bulk up to play center really took away his fluidity.

I hope they don't force that upon Bebe, especially. I'd rather him retain his footspeed to guard the pick and roll than put on a bunch of weight to defend the dying breed of bulky centers.

Slim_Charles · Post #80 » by **Slim_Charles** » Mon Jul 14, 2014 1:34 am

I think we should all hold our breath and take a back seat on this subject because it is TOO early to tell if he is going to be an impact player. I am taking it game by game and I am just happy for any kind of improvement. Remember... expectations is the root of all heartache.

On a scale from one to five, how high are you on Bruno?