A RealGM History: DeMar DeRozan - Parts One & Two

DonYon · Post #61 » by **DonYon** » Fri Jul 18, 2014 12:26 am

He got drafted on the night of my high school prom. I remember frantically texting my friend to find out who we were picking while giving my date no attention whatsoever.

CrookedJ · Post #62 » by **CrookedJ** » Fri Jul 18, 2014 12:33 am

Lol the Shady Journalism accusations defending Terrence Williams was me!

Rapsobsessed7 · Post #63 » by **Rapsobsessed7** » Fri Jul 18, 2014 1:36 am

Funny to see. We all have our own preferences about who to pick during draft night, that's what makes this board so great. Everyone sees something different in a player. I remember absolutely hating the JV pick and wanting one of Knight (#1 choice) or Kemba and look how that turned out, JV made me eat my words. I think during that time my distaste of the pick was due to the fact that BC had an infatuation with Euro players and Bargnani tainted my image of them. It's easy to look back in hindsight and laugh at some of the posts but during the time they weren't so absurd.

Thelonious · Post #64 » by **Thelonious** » Fri Jul 18, 2014 1:48 am

Rapsobsessed7 wrote:Funny to see. We all have our own preferences about who to pick during draft night, that's what makes this board so great. Everyone sees something different in a player. I remember absolutely hating the JV pick and wanting one of Knight (#1 choice) or Kemba and look how that turned out, JV made me eat my words. I think during that time my distaste of the pick was due to the fact that BC had an infatuation with Euro players and Bargnani tainted my image of them. It's easy to look back in hindsight and laugh at some of the posts but during the time they weren't so absurd.

Actually it is not only absurd to assume all euro players are disappointments it's also kind of racist

Flight33 · Post #65 » by **Flight33** » Fri Jul 18, 2014 1:50 am

I'll never forget that draft night. It was on the same day Michael Jackson died. I had wanted DeRozan since I first heard about him when he was in grade 11. He had the talent but there was always questions about his motor. He turned out alright though I'd say.

mirrornick · Post #66 » by **mirrornick** » Fri Jul 18, 2014 2:00 am

Thelonious wrote:
Rapsobsessed7 wrote:Funny to see. We all have our own preferences about who to pick during draft night, that's what makes this board so great. Everyone sees something different in a player. I remember absolutely hating the JV pick and wanting one of Knight (#1 choice) or Kemba and look how that turned out, JV made me eat my words. I think during that time my distaste of the pick was due to the fact that BC had an infatuation with Euro players and Bargnani tainted my image of them. It's easy to look back in hindsight and laugh at some of the posts but during the time they weren't so absurd.

Actually it is not only absurd to assume all euro players are disappointments it's also kind of racist

Do you even know what racism means? I hope you were just kidding.

Just a sport. Preferring an American basketball player over a european one is not racist, it's personal preference.

Rapsobsessed7 · Post #67 » by **Rapsobsessed7** » Fri Jul 18, 2014 2:18 am

Thelonious wrote:
Rapsobsessed7 wrote:Funny to see. We all have our own preferences about who to pick during draft night, that's what makes this board so great. Everyone sees something different in a player. I remember absolutely hating the JV pick and wanting one of Knight (#1 choice) or Kemba and look how that turned out, JV made me eat my words. I think during that time my distaste of the pick was due to the fact that BC had an infatuation with Euro players and Bargnani tainted my image of them. It's easy to look back in hindsight and laugh at some of the posts but during the time they weren't so absurd.

Actually it is not only absurd to assume all euro players are disappointments it's also kind of racist

When did I say anything about all euros being disappointments? I also wasn't referring to my comment on the JV pick but comments on specific players like Terrence Williams. Anyways looks like your looking for an argument.

LieCheatSteal · Post #68 » by **LieCheatSteal** » Fri Jul 18, 2014 4:10 am

FIRST!!

On DeRozan. Or Der Rozan.

Waylon Mercy · Post #69 » by **Waylon Mercy** » Fri Jul 18, 2014 5:21 am

The good old Michael Jackson draft...

I use to post here as Carlos Rogers and lost that account in 2010...

But I remember I wanted DeRozan badly both here and on the now extinct ESPN boards. As
I always hated Anthony Parker and I believe he was gonna be a FA anyways so we had a void
hole at SG.

I actually remember tweeting Shawn Marion who was a FA and telling him to stay because
DeRozan was gonna be good lol

It was only the 4th time ever the Raps drafted who I wanted (Camby 96, T-Mac 97 and Bosh 2003)
me and my best friend were torn on Wade and Bosh. We'd go back and forth even years after
until it was clear Wade was clearly better. We felt Bosh was the right pick because he was a
PF which was a glaring need, he was younger and was compared to Kevin Garnett.

In 2010 as Carlos Rogers I made a thread on here saying we need to draft Paul George at
all costs or something like that around in April or May. I was absolutely heart broken when
Larry Bird took him a few picks from us.

In 2011 I will gladly eat crow on Jonas Valanciunas. I was absolutely furious with the pick
and cussed out the Raps on here and on BBM lol. I wasn't impressed with the little footage
that was out there on him and I thought he was to small to be a center. I remember reading
a David Thorpe article saying how he got owned by former Raptor scrub Robert Archibald
in Europe. And last but not least I thought BC was drafting him because he was Euro. I really
had my heart set on Kemba even though I knew he wasn't an ideal fit next to DeRozan and
I also liked Leonard and Knight as plan B's.

In 2012 I was floored we took Ross. I actually liked him from a few Washington games I saw of
him and Tony Wroten but never even considered him because he wasn't in our draft range.
I will admit I wanted Lamb bad but I remember saying if someone from tier 1 slipped to us
make sure you pick him up and of course they passed on Drummond. It's still early but I will
give BC credit in that to this point Ross has out played Lamb and Rivers.

lolwut · Post #70 » by **lolwut** » Fri Jul 18, 2014 6:07 am

I wanted Jonny Flynn :rock:

Rasho is god · Post #71 » by **Rasho is god** » Fri Jul 18, 2014 6:29 am

RaptorsFTL wrote:He's not Vince tho.

Yes he stays healthy, doesn't cry, and doesn't have an annoying mom. Nothing like Vince.

TdotRap4Lyfe · Post #72 » by **TdotRap4Lyfe** » Fri Jul 18, 2014 6:43 am

pbj wrote:
chuckdevlin wrote:
Salted Meat wrote:Oh boy, you just put my whole Bargnani Point-Centre post right out there, didn't you?

Did I hurt you or something? That was harsh, lol!

God, I remember I was trying to be so, so positive about Bargs. People were down on him, and I just thought he needed time and the right opportunity. I didn't want to jump on the hatewagon like a lot of others, and wanted to offer a possible counterpoint...

...and man, was I unbelievably wrong. What the hell is a Point-Centre, anyway? I must have been ******* high.

I honestly can't stop laughing at my stupid post. Thanks for this, this is a really great thread.

Crazy in hindsight, but not crazy in the moment. Bargs' failure is all on him. You can't say he didnt have the talent to make it work. He's just a fatass.

Bargs-Bosh didnt work. We needed a defensive C to pair with one of them, and not a JO. We got a decent return on him, so I aint even mad

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSFKqPVTSZw[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqXpONiTnyA[/youtube]

I hate when people pretend Bargnani was a bust from the get-go.. the guy had some absolute flashes of brilliance. So much bloody potential!!!

I just didn't like him from the beginning because I wanted the Raptors to draft LMA or Gay.

Raps Maniac · Post #73 » by **Raps Maniac** » Fri Jul 18, 2014 7:13 am

I...I mean...my friend...remembers this thread. He..I mean...I...I mean...he posted that we should've drafted Jennings instead. Luckily, he...I...he has a different name now, so my...I mean..his reputation is safe. B-)

MrBojangelz71 · Post #74 » by **MrBojangelz71** » Fri Jul 18, 2014 12:52 pm

July 18/09:

MrBojangelz71 wrote: Everything noted here has been stated, all info about DD is readily available, and chances are if he's not gone by 9, we grab him.
By all reports yesterday and his interview, DD impressed and hopefully we are able to grab him as he seemingly has the most upside, IMO, of players projected to be available at our spot. He has sleeper written all over him.

June 25/09:

MrBojangelz71 wrote:If we are able to get DD, I will be Hap, Hap, Happay!

June 25/09:

MrBojangelz71 wrote:I just watched my PVR of the draft and I hopped off my couch when DD's name was announced. I feel we got the steal of the draft and in 2 to 3 years, he will be right behind Blake as the best talent of the 09/10 draft.
WELCOME D! Let the rim rocking begin

June 27/09:

MrBojangelz71 wrote: You can tell from DD's blog, caring about his friends and were they get drafted, caring about his parents health and being family oriented, wanting to get to know the city of TO like he knows LA, things of that nature show character and his seems very high.

Mattd97 · Post #75 » by **Mattd97** » Fri Jul 18, 2014 1:04 pm

from January 11th, 2010

Mattd97 wrote:I think Demar will be an all-star in 2014

from Novermber 25th, 1998

Mattd97 wrote:Im gonna guess he averages 22.7 points a game in the 13-14 campaign and we win the atlantic, but he might only be the second best player on the team next to a young pg named kyle lowry

from March 25, 2007

Mattd97 wrote:you all love and trust BC now, but i bet some guy named masai will be our saviour

from Arpil 8th, 2003

Mattd97 wrote:I see Dumbledore dying, everyone thinking its snape, but then it turning out snape was a good guy all along

from Octover 15th, 2000

Mattd97 wrote:I think the island is just a holding spot for the plane crash's victims' souls, and that in the last episode theyll all finally pass that spiritual place and meet again in heavens waiting room

(yeah, as you can tell i still dont know what actually happened on lost)

J-Roc · Post #76 » by **J-Roc** » Fri Jul 18, 2014 1:28 pm

Something you guys miss on these draft picks and how they turn out is that it also depends on the opportunity and development afforded to them by their teams. A guy like DeMar got a bunch of unearned PT. He might have went to another situation and not panned out. Maybe James Johnson would have come here and grown up. It might sound outrageous to some, but it's as outrageous as all the people who speak in those draft threads like they really know what they're talking about. It's all guesswork.

As for Bargs being a point-centre, yeah that's also crazy, but in all cases, we have to try to make work with what we have. I always felt we should have left Bargs as a skinny kid instead of bulking him up. And I still believe to this day his bulking up to be an NBA centre is what did him in.

dagger · Post #77 » by **dagger** » Fri Jul 18, 2014 1:42 pm

I am still amazed DeMar was available at #9. That was divine providence. I remember after Rubio was picked assuming that now Minnesota would draft DeMar. They needed a shooting guard (five years later, they still do, and have never had a good one in the interim unless you think Kevin Martin is good.) But Kahn pulled a great one with Flynn. It was an all-time bad pick, not only because Flynn was a complete bust, but because strategically, it made no sense to draft another point guard one pick after taking Rubio.

notagenius · Post #78 » by **notagenius** » Fri Jul 18, 2014 1:48 pm

dagger wrote:I am still amazed DeMar was available at #9. That was divine providence. I remember after Rubio was picked assuming that now Minnesota would draft DeMar. They needed a shooting guard (five years later, they still do, and have never had a good one in the interim unless you think Kevin Martin is good.) But Kahn pulled a great one with Flynn. It was an all-time bad pick, not only because Flynn was a complete bust, but because strategically, it made no sense to draft another point guard one pick after taking Rubio.

yeah, I was also nervous new york would take him after GS took stephen curry.

but then the knicks did what the knicks do and took jordan hill :lol:

Waylon Mercy · Post #79 » by **Waylon Mercy** » Fri Jul 18, 2014 2:16 pm

Just to add something else...

Am I the only one who wanted to draft him because of his name as well?

Might sound odd but I thought the name "DeMar DeRozan" sounded like a star and actually
envisioned his name in boxscores or sports tickers scoring 20 ppg

BetterCallSaul · Post #80 » by **BetterCallSaul** » Fri Jul 18, 2014 3:53 pm

genius- wrote:
dagger wrote:I am still amazed DeMar was available at #9. That was divine providence. I remember after Rubio was picked assuming that now Minnesota would draft DeMar. They needed a shooting guard (five years later, they still do, and have never had a good one in the interim unless you think Kevin Martin is good.) But Kahn pulled a great one with Flynn. It was an all-time bad pick, not only because Flynn was a complete bust, but because strategically, it made no sense to draft another point guard one pick after taking Rubio.

yeah, I was also nervous new york would take him after GS took stephen curry.

but then the knicks did what the knicks do and took jordan hill

Yup, I was so glad they went with Hill. Never had a doubt in my mind he would be disappointing.
Him and demar will be making almost the same $$$ this year :lol:

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