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Re: The Score: James Johnson's ankle not looking good. 

Post#61 » by mihaic » Tue Nov 18, 2014 2:19 am

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Post#62 » by ishoy123 » Tue Nov 18, 2014 2:20 am

Flight33 wrote:Bruno isn't going to make any difference.


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Post#63 » by right between the eyes » Tue Nov 18, 2014 2:26 am

I hope this doesn't ruin our momentum like the Patman injury did last year... He would have helped defending Lebron twice damnit
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Post#64 » by for_tdot » Tue Nov 18, 2014 2:43 am

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Put that jersey on boy, you're going in.

I hope Casey's thinking what you're thinking. :D :nod:
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Re: The Score: James Johnson's ankle not looking good. 

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Put that jersey on boy, you're going in.

I hope Casey's thinking what you're thinking. :D :nod:


Unfortunately this is what Casey's thinking about.

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Post#66 » by Chuck Newhouse » Tue Nov 18, 2014 3:10 am

Why is it that these idiot trainers put guys back in games after they roll their ankles. It happens ALL the time. You would think after years of seeing players claim they are fine after this happens and then having to miss 2 weeks because they were stupid enough to put them back in they would learn. This injury always hurts way more the next day unless you very quickly get ice on it and then stay off it for a couple days. Pisses me off!
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Post#67 » by kavan » Tue Nov 18, 2014 3:19 am

Bruno sees a few garbage mins, JJ heals up we see him in a couple games. This team needs to be able to play through injuries. That is what the depth is for and developing the bench. Anyone can have an off night and someone new needs to step in.
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Post#68 » by Dukenukem23 » Tue Nov 18, 2014 3:27 am

Chuck Newhouse wrote:Why is it that these idiot trainers put guys back in games after they roll their ankles. It happens ALL the time. You would think after years of seeing players claim they are fine after this happens and then having to miss 2 weeks because they were stupid enough to put them back in they would learn. This injury always hurts way more the next day unless you very quickly get ice on it and then stay off it for a couple days. Pisses me off!


Thought I'd chime in here to say that I think your incorrect at least from my own personal experiences. I've played competitive ball most of my life and as such have the ankles of a 90 year old man. Lol. In that I can tell you that if you can walk or in James case actually run and jump on the injured ankle then your injury isn't absolitely critical and walking or playing (pain permitted) is actually more therapeutic than staying off it. Once again this is only the case of it's not a severe injury such as a fracture or a complete rupture of all the ligaments and tenson damage. Anything soft tissue related heals much faster by continuing the natural walking motion to maintain flexibility, strength and milk out swelling from your feet. There are many studies showing a faster recovery time for athletes that don't follow the old age RICE approach and adopt an approach focused on keeping the mobility in the joint to reduce scar tissue build up.
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Re: The Score: James Johnson's ankle not looking good. 

Post#69 » by Chuck Newhouse » Tue Nov 18, 2014 3:35 am

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Chuck Newhouse wrote:Why is it that these idiot trainers put guys back in games after they roll their ankles. It happens ALL the time. You would think after years of seeing players claim they are fine after this happens and then having to miss 2 weeks because they were stupid enough to put them back in they would learn. This injury always hurts way more the next day unless you very quickly get ice on it and then stay off it for a couple days. Pisses me off!


Thought I'd chime in here to say that I think your incorrect at least from my own personal experiences. I've played competitive ball most of my life and as such have the ankles of a 90 year old man. Lol. In that I can tell you that if you can walk or in James case actually run and jump on the injured ankle then your injury isn't absolitely critical and walking or playing (pain permitted) is actually more therapeutic than staying off it. Once again this is only the case of it's not a severe injury such as a fracture or a complete rupture of all the ligaments and tenson damage. Anything soft tissue related heals much faster by continuing the natural walking motion to maintain flexibility, strength and milk out swelling from your feet. There are many studies showing a faster recovery time for athletes that don't follow the old age RICE approach and adopt an approach focused on keeping the mobility in the joint to reduce scar tissue build up.


No way...I had 2 identical ankle injuries in 2006. I rolled both in the same stairwell and the second I iced immediately. One week vs two week recovery. You have to ice swelling first. Walking slowly after the swelling goes down is not the same as playing pro ball while the swelling is still happening.
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Post#70 » by Dukenukem23 » Tue Nov 18, 2014 3:46 am

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Chuck Newhouse wrote:Why is it that these idiot trainers put guys back in games after they roll their ankles. It happens ALL the time. You would think after years of seeing players claim they are fine after this happens and then having to miss 2 weeks because they were stupid enough to put them back in they would learn. This injury always hurts way more the next day unless you very quickly get ice on it and then stay off it for a couple days. Pisses me off!


Thought I'd chime in here to say that I think your incorrect at least from my own personal experiences. I've played competitive ball most of my life and as such have the ankles of a 90 year old man. Lol. In that I can tell you that if you can walk or in James case actually run and jump on the injured ankle then your injury isn't absolitely critical and walking or playing (pain permitted) is actually more therapeutic than staying off it. Once again this is only the case of it's not a severe injury such as a fracture or a complete rupture of all the ligaments and tenson damage. Anything soft tissue related heals much faster by continuing the natural walking motion to maintain flexibility, strength and milk out swelling from your feet. There are many studies showing a faster recovery time for athletes that don't follow the old age RICE approach and adopt an approach focused on keeping the mobility in the joint to reduce scar tissue build up.


No way...I had 2 identical ankle injuries in 2006. I rolled both in the same stairwell and the second I iced immediately. One week vs two week recovery. You have to ice swelling first. Walking slowly after the swelling goes down is not the same as playing pro ball while the swelling is still happening.

Recovery time is generally faster each time you reinjure your ankle. You have rolled your ankle twice, I have rolled mine 20+ some which took a week and others that took a full year to fully recover. Each injury is different and just because you rolled it in the same location does not mean the tissue damage would be the same.
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Post#71 » by LastNameEver » Tue Nov 18, 2014 3:53 am

If it was a high grade sprain/roll (which even with a good training staff you'd still be sidelined weeks) he wouldn't have been able to come back in immediately and put pressure on it.
So here's hoping they're just being precautionary, and its not too bad.

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Post#72 » by CarterDUnk16 » Tue Nov 18, 2014 3:54 am

Any news on retaliation against that cameraman? It's tough to see JJ go down like that when it could have been avoided. I expect an apology from that cameraman directed to all Raptors fans. lol
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Re: The Score: James Johnson's ankle not looking good. 

Post#73 » by mihaic » Tue Nov 18, 2014 4:02 am

Dukenukem23 wrote:
Chuck Newhouse wrote:
Dukenukem23 wrote:
Thought I'd chime in here to say that I think your incorrect at least from my own personal experiences. I've played competitive ball most of my life and as such have the ankles of a 90 year old man. Lol. In that I can tell you that if you can walk or in James case actually run and jump on the injured ankle then your injury isn't absolitely critical and walking or playing (pain permitted) is actually more therapeutic than staying off it. Once again this is only the case of it's not a severe injury such as a fracture or a complete rupture of all the ligaments and tenson damage. Anything soft tissue related heals much faster by continuing the natural walking motion to maintain flexibility, strength and milk out swelling from your feet. There are many studies showing a faster recovery time for athletes that don't follow the old age RICE approach and adopt an approach focused on keeping the mobility in the joint to reduce scar tissue build up.


No way...I had 2 identical ankle injuries in 2006. I rolled both in the same stairwell and the second I iced immediately. One week vs two week recovery. You have to ice swelling first. Walking slowly after the swelling goes down is not the same as playing pro ball while the swelling is still happening.

Recovery time is generally faster each time you reinjure your ankle. You have rolled your ankle twice, I have rolled mine 20+ some which took a week and others that took a full year to fully recover. Each injury is different and just because you rolled it in the same location does not mean the tissue damage would be the same.

According to this Amir should recover his rolled ankles in 2 minute or less!

Seriously I had one roll I injured in soccer which took almost 6 months to heal. What was interesting is I could play soccer on it after about 3 months but couldn;t take the landings in basketball...
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Post#74 » by Chuck Newhouse » Tue Nov 18, 2014 4:13 am

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Dukenukem23 wrote:
Thought I'd chime in here to say that I think your incorrect at least from my own personal experiences. I've played competitive ball most of my life and as such have the ankles of a 90 year old man. Lol. In that I can tell you that if you can walk or in James case actually run and jump on the injured ankle then your injury isn't absolitely critical and walking or playing (pain permitted) is actually more therapeutic than staying off it. Once again this is only the case of it's not a severe injury such as a fracture or a complete rupture of all the ligaments and tenson damage. Anything soft tissue related heals much faster by continuing the natural walking motion to maintain flexibility, strength and milk out swelling from your feet. There are many studies showing a faster recovery time for athletes that don't follow the old age RICE approach and adopt an approach focused on keeping the mobility in the joint to reduce scar tissue build up.


No way...I had 2 identical ankle injuries in 2006. I rolled both in the same stairwell and the second I iced immediately. One week vs two week recovery. You have to ice swelling first. Walking slowly after the swelling goes down is not the same as playing pro ball while the swelling is still happening.

Recovery time is generally faster each time you reinjure your ankle. You have rolled your ankle twice, I have rolled mine 20+ some which took a week and others that took a full year to fully recover. Each injury is different and just because you rolled it in the same location does not mean the tissue damage would be the same.


It doesn't mean it was but it was. I have rolled my ankle way more times than that. Those were so totally similar in every way that I chose to use it as a comparison. I have also kept a mental count in my head every time I see it in a game since then just to see if my hypothesis is accurate and I have noticed that when someone is allowed to play again, when it looks fairly severe, they almost always miss 2 weeks. You gotta ice swelling asap.
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Post#75 » by vaff87 » Tue Nov 18, 2014 4:18 am

Chuck Newhouse wrote:Why is it that these idiot trainers put guys back in games after they roll their ankles. It happens ALL the time. You would think after years of seeing players claim they are fine after this happens and then having to miss 2 weeks because they were stupid enough to put them back in they would learn. This injury always hurts way more the next day unless you very quickly get ice on it and then stay off it for a couple days. Pisses me off!


I'm not an expert in this field. But according to someone on here the other day, this is why:

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Post#76 » by Hit Em Up » Tue Nov 18, 2014 4:18 am

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Post#77 » by Dukenukem23 » Tue Nov 18, 2014 4:21 am

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No way...I had 2 identical ankle injuries in 2006. I rolled both in the same stairwell and the second I iced immediately. One week vs two week recovery. You have to ice swelling first. Walking slowly after the swelling goes down is not the same as playing pro ball while the swelling is still happening.

Recovery time is generally faster each time you reinjure your ankle. You have rolled your ankle twice, I have rolled mine 20+ some which took a week and others that took a full year to fully recover. Each injury is different and just because you rolled it in the same location does not mean the tissue damage would be the same.


It doesn't mean it was but it was. I have rolled my ankle way more times than that. Those were so totally similar in every way that I chose to use it as a comparison. I have also kept a mental count in my head every time I see it in a game since then just to see if my hypothesis is accurate and I have noticed that when someone is allowed to play again, when it looks fairly severe, they almost always miss 2 weeks. You gotta ice swelling asap.


There is a lot of new science out there suggesting Ice is a detriment to healing because it slows the blood flow. Even worse are NSAIDS because they don't allow the body to produce enough collagen to heal soft tissue. Personally what I've done with recent injuries is avoid ice and Advil altogether and reduce swelling with diet, exercise and lots of rest after an injury and it's cut my healing time in half. With my most recent severe sprain I did use ice to dull the pain for the first two days because when it's bad enough and your not taking pain killers you have to do something or you can't sleep/recover.

Everyone has their own method though and what works for some may not work as well for others, I fully understand that, but this has been my own personal experience.
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Post#78 » by AlwaysFresh » Tue Nov 18, 2014 4:23 am

Just inject his leg with a bunch of illegal pain killers and put him on the court. A win here would be huge
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Post#79 » by Lange » Tue Nov 18, 2014 4:37 am

I too saw him at the Raps City Social tonight. I said hi to him and asked about the ankle. He said it's going well and he looked pretty mobile. Not sure what else he would say but there it is.
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Post#80 » by team edward » Tue Nov 18, 2014 4:38 am

AlwaysFresh wrote:Just inject his leg with a bunch of illegal pain killers and put him on the court. A win here would be huge

We all know what kind of pain killers JJ prefers, and they wont help his defence much.

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