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Re: Demar: "I hate taking wide open shots" 

Post#61 » by load management » Thu Feb 26, 2015 11:07 pm

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Re: Demar: "I hate taking wide open shots" 

Post#62 » by RIP Kobe » Thu Feb 26, 2015 11:41 pm

you people really love to take things out of context. 4 pages of bickering and the thread title is missing the most important word from that statement. SOMETIMES

also, i can tell none of you ever played basketball.

sometimes a wide open shot is the harder shot because you're expected to make it.
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Re: Demar: "I hate taking wide open shots" 

Post#63 » by Lateral Quicks » Thu Feb 26, 2015 11:45 pm

He probably doesn't like taking open shots because it exposes the fact that he can't shoot. The numbers don't lie.

He's a good player who helps our team when he doesn't play hero ball, but he's not deserving of max money, or anything close to it.
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Re: Demar: "I hate taking wide open shots" 

Post#64 » by Death Knight » Thu Feb 26, 2015 11:46 pm

"If I can get my shot off, it's a good shot."

That's where them airballs come from. Rather throw the ball in the air then pass it.
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Re: Demar: "I hate taking wide open shots" 

Post#65 » by dsquared » Fri Feb 27, 2015 12:07 am

CountOnAlex wrote:you people really love to take things out of context. 4 pages of bickering and the thread title is missing the most important word from that statement. SOMETIMES

also, i can tell none of you ever played basketball.

sometimes a wide open shot is the harder shot because you're expected to make it.


Don't call out other people on their comprehension if you yourself are lacking in that department. Judging from the video and play throughout his career, the correct assessment would be that he doesn't like taking open shots because he'd rather pretend to be Kobe and shoot step-back fadeaways over defenders. This is pretty evident when you look at how many abysmal fg% games he's had this year.

Also, a wide open shot is NOT harder than a contested shot and I'd bet my life right now that almost every stat backs that up. The only difference between contested/uncontested shots is that there's an expectation for you to make the open one, but that doesn't magically make it harder, it's still a practice shot essentially.
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Re: Demar: "I hate taking wide open shots" 

Post#66 » by nahom1319 » Fri Feb 27, 2015 12:08 am

CountOnAlex wrote:also, i can tell none of you ever played basketball.

sometimes a wide open shot is the harder shot because you're expected to make it.

By that logic making a wide open layup is harder than a contested three ball. :crazy:
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Re: Demar: "I hate taking wide open shots" 

Post#67 » by Undefeated » Fri Feb 27, 2015 12:31 am

dsquared wrote:Also, a wide open shot is NOT harder than a contested shot and I'd bet my life right now that almost every stat backs that up. The only difference between contested/uncontested shots is that there's an expectation for you to make the open one, but that doesn't magically make it harder, it's still a practice shot essentially.


A wide open shot should technically not be harder than a contested one, but some players need that dribble in order to build that rhythm to step into their shot so it makes sense why some players might struggle with catch-and-shoot jumpers. Then there's the mechanical aspect as well because a player that is used to shooting off the dribble is always measuring/adjusting his release and the footwork is different.

Steve Nash said the same thing when he was reduced to a spot-up shooter when he was playing with Dwight and Kobe:

You took a lot more spot-up jumpers last season. Are those easy for you? Do you look at that almost as a way to prolong your career?

I embrace it, and I tried this year to get better at it. Like you said, in Phoenix, I almost never got a catch-and-shoot chance. I actually felt really uncomfortable last summer trying to learn to catch-and-shoot.

Really? Wow. The assumption is they are easier shots, for everyone.

Right? But after years and years of creating off the dribble, I felt almost funny and off-balance when I was catching-and-shooting, which is obviously when you should have your best balance. But I really worked at it, and I embraced it. I ended up shooting really well, by league standards.


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Re: Demar: "I hate taking wide open shots" 

Post#68 » by Rushodian » Fri Feb 27, 2015 12:42 am

I hope he does in fact realize that an uncontested and open look is going to yield higher percentages then contested ones.
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Re: Demar: "I hate taking wide open shots" 

Post#69 » by Boogie! » Fri Feb 27, 2015 12:49 am

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Exactly. Not a big deal. They play the drive he has open shots, he will start hitting them again and you can all suck his chode.


I've refrained from posting in anything derozan related recently but it always perplexes me when people say things like "he'll start hitting them again" as if in the past he's been a very efficient shooter and is just having a freakishly bad season...
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Re: Demar: "I hate taking wide open shots" 

Post#70 » by Lucky26 » Fri Feb 27, 2015 12:55 am

True ballers know exactly what he is talking about. It's almost an art to stand in a spot and wait or run to a spot and catch and shoot. Yeah you are more open; but it's not as natural to most players who are used to dribbling first.

That said, he needs to work on his weaknesses, which he does for the most part; but should have mentioned it in this interview, him and Lowry are just frustrated right now.

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Re: Demar: "I hate taking wide open shots" 

Post#71 » by Throwback24 » Fri Feb 27, 2015 12:57 am

RaptorNews wrote:That's funny because I hate when he takes any shot


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Re: Demar: "I hate taking wide open shots" 

Post#72 » by Lucky26 » Fri Feb 27, 2015 12:59 am

It's why there are very few Kyle Korvers or Rip Hamiltons.

There is a reason Jordan passed to Kerr for the shot and not the other way around. Think about it, it's the Finals and it's a game winning shot but he passes? It's Kerr's specialty to take that particular shot. Now if they gave Jordan any space, he creates a dribble drive and then shoots or fades away.
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Re: Demar: "I hate taking wide open shots" 

Post#73 » by team edward » Fri Feb 27, 2015 1:13 am

Demar's going to average 22/game in the first round and y'all will be eating crow.
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Re: Demar: "I hate taking wide open shots" 

Post#74 » by geokilla » Fri Feb 27, 2015 1:28 am

team edward wrote:Demar's going to average 22/game in the first round and y'all will be eating crow.

On at least 22 shots right?
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Re: Demar: "I hate taking wide open shots" 

Post#75 » by xAIRNESSx » Fri Feb 27, 2015 1:48 am

That's a weird mentality to have. DeRozan said that he feels wide open shots are harder for him than difficult shots. That truly sounds like someone that has a big ego, which is unfortunate because DeRozan's not as good as he thinks he is. It's perplexing that for someone that works as hard as he does, his shot is still wonky.

At the beginning of the season I wanted to suggest we trade him for Jimmy Butler, but didn't because I thought I would get flamed on here lol.
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Post#76 » by J-Roc » Fri Feb 27, 2015 2:59 am

I've said before, these players are not as bright as we wish they'd be. They haven't been watching enough ball on tv to hear commentators talk about how it's important to move the ball to get open shots. DeMar has a playground attitude of just wanting to get a shot off.

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Post#77 » by VinBaker6 » Fri Feb 27, 2015 3:11 am

I prefer semi contested looks as oppose to open looks any day. Shot is more in rhythm, as you get to step into it.

Ballers will understand.

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Re: Demar: "I hate taking wide open shots" 

Post#78 » by SoIwontGetFined » Fri Feb 27, 2015 3:31 am

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Re: Demar: "I hate taking wide open shots" 

Post#79 » by bonbons » Fri Feb 27, 2015 4:14 am

man, I was called stupid for wanting to trade demar or ross before demar got injured, for an upgrade at pf/sg. I never really liked their game. Hankscorpio you suck at player evaluations.
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Re: Demar: "I hate taking wide open shots" 

Post#80 » by Harold_and_Kumar » Fri Feb 27, 2015 4:23 am

Is it ego that causes the stuff we've seen with Rudy and Demar? A situation where all the evidence points in a specific direction but they just can't see it. It's almost as if it's their internal defense mechanisms at work; if they had to admit they were playing incorrectly and see their FG% for what it is, they'd lose all their confidence and be a worse player.

I feel as though if I was a professional athlete, I'd be aware of my shooting percentages from all over the floor, with a guy in my face, off the pick and roll, off catch and shoot, etc. What purpose is there not to know that stuff and purposefully disregard the knowledge? I get overthinking can cause problems, but this seems pretty basic.

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