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Post#61 » by mrsocko » Sat Jan 6, 2018 5:00 pm

Well if Bruno can’t make it with the Raptors at least he can make it with the brazzillian national team, right, right.
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Post#62 » by thunderforce » Sat Jan 6, 2018 5:15 pm

Hey if DD can add the 3 to his game at this late stage then anyone can get better .
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Post#63 » by HOOOMAN » Sat Jan 6, 2018 5:17 pm

mrsocko wrote:Well if Bruno can’t make it with the Raptors at least he can make it with the brazzillian national team, right, right.



I really feel like he killed his career with that move right there. He had some decent numbers in that tourney, and mind you wasnt any different of a player than he is now, but will never be accepted back on the brazilian team and is even further looked at as an entitled brat that hasnt earned ****
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Post#65 » by dagger » Sat Jan 6, 2018 6:47 pm

Bruno has a consistency issue with his three point shot that will likely force him to play in Europe or China for a year or two. But he has nice shot mechanics, plays better D than people on this board give him credit for, rebounds well, sets decent screens, blocks shots, and is under-utilized as a mid-range shooter - the mid-range isn't run for him, it's something he takes if he's run off the three point line - and he may be our second best passing big after Bebe. With the G-Leageu showcase coming up, I expect him to be called up to the Raps for a few games, and we might see him in garbage time. Right now, I'd trust his shot more than Norm's, although I expect Norm will work his way through things. I was never as high as many here about Norm, but I was also - and am also - not as down on him now as many are.
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Post#66 » by VanWest82 » Sat Jan 6, 2018 7:50 pm

dagger wrote:Bruno has a consistency issue with his three point shot that will likely force him to play in Europe or China for a year or two. But he has nice shot mechanics, plays better D than people on this board give him credit for, rebounds well, sets decent screens, blocks shots, and is under-utilized as a mid-range shooter - the mid-range isn't run for him, it's something he takes if he's run off the three point line - and he may be our second best passing big after Bebe. With the G-Leageu showcase coming up, I expect him to be called up to the Raps for a few games, and we might see him in garbage time. Right now, I'd trust his shot more than Norm's, although I expect Norm will work his way through things. I was never as high as many here about Norm, but I was also - and am also - not as down on him now as many are.

C'mon man. If we brought up Bruno today and actually played him against NBA rotation players, gave him the ball and asked him to do something with it besides shoot, he'd flirt with a 25% TOV%. I mean, I like the enthusiasm but Bruno sort of figuring out where he's supposed to go and what he's supposed to do in the G league does not make him a better decision maker at the NBA level than guys like Siakam and Poeltl (both of whom are highly intelligent passing big men) or even JV or Ibaka.
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Post#67 » by dagger » Sat Jan 6, 2018 7:57 pm

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dagger wrote:Bruno has a consistency issue with his three point shot that will likely force him to play in Europe or China for a year or two. But he has nice shot mechanics, plays better D than people on this board give him credit for, rebounds well, sets decent screens, blocks shots, and is under-utilized as a mid-range shooter - the mid-range isn't run for him, it's something he takes if he's run off the three point line - and he may be our second best passing big after Bebe. With the G-Leageu showcase coming up, I expect him to be called up to the Raps for a few games, and we might see him in garbage time. Right now, I'd trust his shot more than Norm's, although I expect Norm will work his way through things. I was never as high as many here about Norm, but I was also - and am also - not as down on him now as many are.

C'mon man. If we brought up Bruno right now and actually played him against NBA rotation players, gave him the ball and asked him to do something with it besides shoot, he'd flirt with a 30% TOV%. I mean, I like the enthusiasm but Bruno sort of figuring out where he's supposed to go and what he's supposed to do in the G league does not make him a better decision maker at the NBA level than guys like Siakam and Poeltl (both of whom are highly intelligent passing big men) or even JV or Ibaka.


If you actually watch 905 games, you'd know I'm right. You see two examples of passing ability in this extended highlight package. That bounce pass to Meeks is particularly sweet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=dkdMreQRQ4k
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Post#68 » by VanWest82 » Sat Jan 6, 2018 8:08 pm

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dagger wrote:Bruno has a consistency issue with his three point shot that will likely force him to play in Europe or China for a year or two. But he has nice shot mechanics, plays better D than people on this board give him credit for, rebounds well, sets decent screens, blocks shots, and is under-utilized as a mid-range shooter - the mid-range isn't run for him, it's something he takes if he's run off the three point line - and he may be our second best passing big after Bebe. With the G-Leageu showcase coming up, I expect him to be called up to the Raps for a few games, and we might see him in garbage time. Right now, I'd trust his shot more than Norm's, although I expect Norm will work his way through things. I was never as high as many here about Norm, but I was also - and am also - not as down on him now as many are.

C'mon man. If we brought up Bruno right now and actually played him against NBA rotation players, gave him the ball and asked him to do something with it besides shoot, he'd flirt with a 30% TOV%. I mean, I like the enthusiasm but Bruno sort of figuring out where he's supposed to go and what he's supposed to do in the G league does not make him a better decision maker at the NBA level than guys like Siakam and Poeltl (both of whom are highly intelligent passing big men) or even JV or Ibaka.


If you actually watch 905 games, you'd know I'm right.


I will freely admit that I haven't watched nearly as many 905 games as Raptor games this year, but I have caught a few and I just don't see it even against significantly weaker opponents he's playing in G League...though sometimes his jumper looks nice.

Bruno's AST% is 6 vs a TOV% of 12 so far this year, and he's played big minutes. We can talk about how some of that might be a byproduct of how he's used, but like many have pointed out in similar discussions about JV, no system is going to completely hide a guy's vision and play making abilities from the box score. If Bruno was truly a great passer we'd see more statistical evidence of it like we do with Siakam.
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Post#69 » by Psubs » Sat Jan 6, 2018 8:52 pm

dagger wrote:Bruno has a consistency issue with his three point shot that will likely force him to play in Europe or China for a year or two. But he has nice shot mechanics, plays better D than people on this board give him credit for, rebounds well, sets decent screens, blocks shots, and is under-utilized as a mid-range shooter - the mid-range isn't run for him, it's something he takes if he's run off the three point line - and he may be our second best passing big after Bebe. With the G-Leageu showcase coming up, I expect him to be called up to the Raps for a few games, and we might see him in garbage time. Right now, I'd trust his shot more than Norm's, although I expect Norm will work his way through things. I was never as high as many here about Norm, but I was also - and am also - not as down on him now as many are.


They should call up Bruno and send down Powell based on performance.
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Post#70 » by macNcheese3 » Sat Jan 6, 2018 9:12 pm

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dagger wrote:Bruno has a consistency issue with his three point shot that will likely force him to play in Europe or China for a year or two. But he has nice shot mechanics, plays better D than people on this board give him credit for, rebounds well, sets decent screens, blocks shots, and is under-utilized as a mid-range shooter - the mid-range isn't run for him, it's something he takes if he's run off the three point line - and he may be our second best passing big after Bebe. With the G-Leageu showcase coming up, I expect him to be called up to the Raps for a few games, and we might see him in garbage time. Right now, I'd trust his shot more than Norm's, although I expect Norm will work his way through things. I was never as high as many here about Norm, but I was also - and am also - not as down on him now as many are.


They should call up Bruno and send down Powell based on performance.



Just might be a good Idea. Powell would probably get disgruntled if we sent him down though. But the way he’s been performing, calls for it.
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Post#71 » by Zeno » Sat Jan 6, 2018 9:33 pm

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dagger wrote:Bruno has a consistency issue with his three point shot that will likely force him to play in Europe or China for a year or two. But he has nice shot mechanics, plays better D than people on this board give him credit for, rebounds well, sets decent screens, blocks shots, and is under-utilized as a mid-range shooter - the mid-range isn't run for him, it's something he takes if he's run off the three point line - and he may be our second best passing big after Bebe. With the G-Leageu showcase coming up, I expect him to be called up to the Raps for a few games, and we might see him in garbage time. Right now, I'd trust his shot more than Norm's, although I expect Norm will work his way through things. I was never as high as many here about Norm, but I was also - and am also - not as down on him now as many are.


They should call up Bruno and send down Powell based on performance.



Just might be a good Idea. Powell would probably get disgruntled if we sent him down though. But the way he’s been performing, calls for it.

Don't know about Norm cause he'd have to want to go down. But they'll be likely calling up a few guys given that the Raptors play a back to back while Raptors905 is off after playing Sunday until the 11th. If Bruno plays well on Sunday, he might be able to get some minutes while Ibaka likely sits one of the games. Or if there is a blowout.
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Post#72 » by GreatWhiteStiff » Sat Jan 6, 2018 11:50 pm

steve001 wrote:watched a 905 game live. Bruno was clearly on another level than the other G-League guys, but it looked like he wasn't challenged and bored and didn't really try hard all the time.

With some of the Raptors young guys struggling with their shot (Siakem, Powell, OG), I'd love to have Bruno called up for less than 5 minutes/game.


lolll i doubt this. And if it were true it would be an indictment. Do not want.
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Post#73 » by gbball » Sun Jan 7, 2018 2:03 am

Bruno has surprisingly good awareness lately and as dagger mentioned, it leads to some nice passes to teammates. His defense lately has been pretty close to elite at this level. Blocks, steals, bothering shots. He's also clutch and steps up in important parts of games. A game or two ago he was 0-9 from 3, but playing amazing defensively. When it came to crunch time he seems to lock in a bit more and hit his only 3 when it mattered the most. Then he blocked the 3 point shooter a few possessions later.

905 has been on a roll lately and Bruno is a huge part of that. The only game they lost in the last 10 was when they went into overtime with Bruno fouled out.

Still high on him. I kind of wished the team had locked him up at the beginning of the year instead of Norm. I'm not sure how they plan to keep him. I'm certain some team like the Nets gives him a pretty big offer.
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Post#74 » by alpngso » Sun Jan 7, 2018 7:33 pm

So is he getting resigned after this season or what?
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Post#75 » by Kid Canada » Sun Jan 7, 2018 8:02 pm

gbball wrote:Bruno has surprisingly good awareness lately and as dagger mentioned, it leads to some nice passes to teammates. His defense lately has been pretty close to elite at this level. Blocks, steals, bothering shots. He's also clutch and steps up in important parts of games. A game or two ago he was 0-9 from 3, but playing amazing defensively. When it came to crunch time he seems to lock in a bit more and hit his only 3 when it mattered the most. Then he blocked the 3 point shooter a few possessions later.

905 has been on a roll lately and Bruno is a huge part of that. The only game they lost in the last 10 was when they went into overtime with Bruno fouled out.

Still high on him. I kind of wished the team had locked him up at the beginning of the year instead of Norm. I'm not sure how they plan to keep him. I'm certain some team like the Nets gives him a pretty big offer.

Bruno really should have been in Europe or wherever for 2-3 years and then brought over, now he might finally be ready for the nba and his contract is up.
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Post#76 » by strudel forever » Sun Jan 7, 2018 8:19 pm

dagger wrote:
VanWest82 wrote:
dagger wrote:Bruno has a consistency issue with his three point shot that will likely force him to play in Europe or China for a year or two. But he has nice shot mechanics, plays better D than people on this board give him credit for, rebounds well, sets decent screens, blocks shots, and is under-utilized as a mid-range shooter - the mid-range isn't run for him, it's something he takes if he's run off the three point line - and he may be our second best passing big after Bebe. With the G-Leageu showcase coming up, I expect him to be called up to the Raps for a few games, and we might see him in garbage time. Right now, I'd trust his shot more than Norm's, although I expect Norm will work his way through things. I was never as high as many here about Norm, but I was also - and am also - not as down on him now as many are.

C'mon man. If we brought up Bruno right now and actually played him against NBA rotation players, gave him the ball and asked him to do something with it besides shoot, he'd flirt with a 30% TOV%. I mean, I like the enthusiasm but Bruno sort of figuring out where he's supposed to go and what he's supposed to do in the G league does not make him a better decision maker at the NBA level than guys like Siakam and Poeltl (both of whom are highly intelligent passing big men) or even JV or Ibaka.


If you actually watch 905 games, you'd know I'm right. You see two examples of passing ability in this extended highlight package. That bounce pass to Meeks is particularly sweet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=dkdMreQRQ4k


Siakam and Poetle make fundamental passes just like that all the time, except they're doing it at NBA game speed against NBA defenses. There's no evidence Bruno can come up and do anything except turn it over.
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Post#77 » by macNcheese3 » Sun Jan 7, 2018 9:13 pm

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Post#78 » by sca » Sun Jan 7, 2018 9:46 pm

Some people get paid thousands of dollars & bang hot chicks just for having a long d***. On the other hand Bruno earned millions just because he has long arms. That's just the way it is. :lol:
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Post#79 » by Dennis 37 » Sun Jan 7, 2018 9:49 pm

GreatWhiteStiff wrote:
steve001 wrote:watched a 905 game live. Bruno was clearly on another level than the other G-League guys, but it looked like he wasn't challenged and bored and didn't really try hard all the time.

With some of the Raptors young guys struggling with their shot (Siakem, Powell, OG), I'd love to have Bruno called up for less than 5 minutes/game.


lolll i doubt this. And if it were true it would be an indictment. Do not want.


I don't think so. If you are on the NBA bench, you are a rolled ankle away from meaningful minutes. If you are down in the GLeague playing against players who don't challenge you, and you have a significant log jam ahead of you just to make it to the NBA bench, I can see how one's motivation could be a challenge to maintain.
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Post#80 » by Kevin Willis » Mon Jan 8, 2018 12:16 am

I pull for Bruno every D-League game I watch. But I realize I see him check-in and check-out but I barely notice him in the game. When he does something worthwhile it's usually good but he's so unnoticeable. The difference is all the players in our rotation that played in the D-League excelled. ALL OF THEM. From Fred to Delon to Siakam to Bebe even Lorenzo Brown. But Bruno does not which tells me he is not a rotation guy. I want him to succeed but he doesn't deserve it right now and he needs to be consistently excel before he does.
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