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The GSW Fan Who Shoved Lowry is a Part Owner

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Re: The GSW Fan Who Shoved Lowry is a Part Owner 

Post#61 » by Raps Next GM » Thu Jun 6, 2019 5:05 pm

This guy needs to be officially suspended by the league. The Warriors' announcement that he will not attend is not enough.

This isn't about a harmless push to get Lowry off the person caught underneath. For one, Lowry said the guy was cursing him out too. Plus if you're going to pay those big bucks to sit in those seats, you accept the risk that players might fall into you going after loose balls, so the hero argument doesn't apply.

More importantly, what if his push caused Lowry to tweak something and get injured. At the time of the push, Lowry was not yet standing upright. He was in an awkward position and could have easily been vulnerable to injury if a leg wasn't planted properly.
Also, with the adrenaline of a high stakes competition, what if Lowry instinctively reacted physically to the push? If he pushed back or swung at that idiot? Now Lowry would potentially face league discipline because of the actions of some rich a$$hole. If other players and/or fans get caught up in the scuffle, you have the possibility of a very embarrassing situation that could alter the results of your showcase games, the league finals.

The league has to suspend him and fine him and the Warriors organization for this. As part of the organization, he needs to be held to a higher standard than even a non-affiliated fan would be.
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Re: The GSW Fan Who Shoved Lowry is a Part Owner 

Post#62 » by And1Skip » Thu Jun 6, 2019 5:07 pm

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Yeah, one arm shove two seats away was really going to dislodge Lowry and protect that woman :noway: He put his hands on a player, and as an owner he knows the ramifications. Take his toys away.


Well I guess you have all the answers arm chairing a bang bang incident. I'm just saying that it's not clear whether he was aiming to hurt Lowry or simply push him off a fan who had been flattened. It's not like the owner waited until Lowry got up to push him.

Again, I agree he should have been removed and the incident investigated. You shouldn't put your hands on a player. The reaction and automatic assumption of motive and guilt is troubling to me.


Lowry landed in between two seats, one was a fan and the other was an empty chair. Stevens pushes Lowry away from the empty chair and into the other fan. So clearly not trying to help push off a fan.

Also, the reason the chair was empty was because the woman (Stevens's wife?) was standing and reached to grab the ball before it was out of play (ie, ball was above the endline, not even out of bounds yet)


This. Even the wife patted Lowry on the back as if saying "great play", whereas the Owner pushed Lowry as if saying "get off of my wife's empty chair, these are my seats you're not allowed to be here!". Like WTF kind of behavior by the owner of the team??
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Re: The GSW Fan Who Shoved Lowry is a Part Owner 

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Re: The GSW Fan Who Shoved Lowry is a Part Owner 

Post#64 » by Cyrus » Thu Jun 6, 2019 5:10 pm

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King James giving Lowry some support, and some early recruitment/tampering things....

Or fed up and asking a trade to Raptors.... :wink:
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Post#65 » by Kawhiclap » Thu Jun 6, 2019 5:10 pm

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Re: The GSW Fan Who Shoved Lowry is a Part Owner 

Post#68 » by MegiMK » Thu Jun 6, 2019 5:13 pm

Gotta "love" that statement from the Warriors organization. "Mr. Stevens" and "Kyle Lowry".

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Re: The GSW Fan Who Shoved Lowry is a Part Owner 

Post#69 » by bon » Thu Jun 6, 2019 5:18 pm

VanWest82 wrote:I clicked this thread hoping to see jokes/memes and instead we're doing the public freak out thing. Here's my unpopular opinion: Lowry pancaked a fan at full speed, and that owner was trying to push him off. I'm sure he also told him to GTFO as many fans have told many opposing players before him.

Should the owner have been removed? Probably. Anytime a player thinks a fan went at him that fan should be removed and the incident investigated. Permanently banning him for putting his hand on Lowry to try and push him off another fan who Lowry was crushing shouldn't be something we ban him for. At the very least I'd like to hear his side of the argument as well as testimony from surrounding fans.

Edit: I do think it's interesting that the fan who got crushed helped Lowry up and patted him on the back to make sure he was ok, so I'm not absolving the owner of blame. I just think we might be overreacting a little here.

There was no one in the seat that Lowry crashed into
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Re: The GSW Fan Who Shoved Lowry is a Part Owner 

Post#70 » by VanWest82 » Thu Jun 6, 2019 5:22 pm

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Yeah, one arm shove two seats away was really going to dislodge Lowry and protect that woman :noway: He put his hands on a player, and as an owner he knows the ramifications. Take his toys away.


Well I guess you have all the answers arm chairing a bang bang incident. I'm just saying that it's not clear whether he was aiming to hurt Lowry or simply push him off a fan who had been flattened. It's not like the owner waited until Lowry got up to push him.

Again, I agree he should have been removed and the incident investigated. You shouldn't put your hands on a player. The reaction and automatic assumption of motive and guilt is troubling to me.


Lowry claimed he made vulgar comments, which undermines the notion that he's just trying to help the woman valiantly. The Warriors apparently also see it like I do, because they banned him themselves. So, you have the home team banning one of their owners and a partisan fan of the opposite team in agreement.


And what were those vulgar statements exactly? GTFOH?? We don’t know what he said. We know that Lowry claims vulgar comments (unsolicited? In response to something Lowry said??) and that’s apparently enough to convince you of motive.

Warriors did the right thing from a PR perspective, especially with what went on this year with Russ/fans. In the current climate with owners/players I’m not sure their response says anything more than we don’t want this to turn into a thing in the middle of our biggest money making event of the year.

Maybe the owner did intentionally assault Lowry (as appose to reacting to help a fan) and then berate him with vulgar comments for no reason. I don’t know. I’m just not a fan of the judge, jury, and executioner approach most seem to be taking from a video which doesn’t answer all these questions.
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Re: The GSW Fan Who Shoved Lowry is a Part Owner 

Post#71 » by h4rrison » Thu Jun 6, 2019 5:22 pm

Is the woman the same fan who made the crying face to Lebron a few years ago??
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Post#72 » by Double Helix » Thu Jun 6, 2019 5:27 pm

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Re: The GSW Fan Who Shoved Lowry is a Part Owner 

Post#73 » by LLJ » Thu Jun 6, 2019 5:28 pm

A non story.
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Post#74 » by steamed hams » Thu Jun 6, 2019 5:29 pm

means NBA won't ban him
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Post#75 » by bon » Thu Jun 6, 2019 5:30 pm

h4rrison wrote:Is the woman the same fan who made the crying face to Lebron a few years ago??

Wow. Full circle
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Re: The GSW Fan Who Shoved Lowry is a Part Owner 

Post#76 » by Kawhiclap » Thu Jun 6, 2019 5:33 pm

steamed hams wrote:means NBA won't ban him


Nba should ban him what he did was unacceptable. Does he think he has the rights to shove players because he’s an owner? Lebron is pushing for more, I hope Lebrons voice is powerful enough to get Mark Stevens to sell the team.

What he did was despicable, especially as an owner it has no place in the league. I hope this gains more mass media attention, after Sterling these type of owners have no place in the league.
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Re: The GSW Fan Who Shoved Lowry is a Part Owner 

Post#77 » by rarefind » Thu Jun 6, 2019 5:34 pm

T-d0t wrote:
VanWest82 wrote:I clicked this thread hoping to see jokes/memes and instead we're doing the public freak out thing. Here's my unpopular opinion: Lowry pancaked a fan at full speed, and that owner was trying to push him off. I'm sure he also told him to GTFO as many fans have told many opposing players before him.

Should the owner have been removed? Probably. Anytime a player thinks a fan went at him that fan should be removed and the incident investigated. Permanently banning him for putting his hand on Lowry to try and push him off another fan who Lowry was crushing shouldn't be something we ban him for. At the very least I'd like to hear his side of the argument as well as testimony from surrounding fans.
Wtf, you don't touch a player like that ever. The fact that this guy is a minority owner makes this even worse.


Yes, pushing Kyle was totally cool. If Kyle punched him in the face, you would be advocating for a lifetime ban.

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Post#78 » by Kawhiclap » Thu Jun 6, 2019 5:34 pm

LLJ wrote:A non story.


This is a bigger story than the nba finals imo.
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Re: The GSW Fan Who Shoved Lowry is a Part Owner 

Post#79 » by ATLTimekeeper » Thu Jun 6, 2019 5:34 pm

VanWest82 wrote:
ATLTimekeeper wrote:
VanWest82 wrote:
Well I guess you have all the answers arm chairing a bang bang incident. I'm just saying that it's not clear whether he was aiming to hurt Lowry or simply push him off a fan who had been flattened. It's not like the owner waited until Lowry got up to push him.

Again, I agree he should have been removed and the incident investigated. You shouldn't put your hands on a player. The reaction and automatic assumption of motive and guilt is troubling to me.


Lowry claimed he made vulgar comments, which undermines the notion that he's just trying to help the woman valiantly. The Warriors apparently also see it like I do, because they banned him themselves. So, you have the home team banning one of their owners and a partisan fan of the opposite team in agreement.


And what were those vulgar statements exactly? GTFOH?? We don’t know what he said. We know that Lowry claims vulgar comments (unsolicited? In response to something Lowry said??) and that’s apparently enough to convince you of motive.

Warriors did the right thing from a PR perspective, especially with what went on this year with Russ/fans. In the current climate with owners/players I’m not sure their response says anything more than we don’t want this to turn into a thing in the middle of our biggest money making event of the year.

Maybe the owner did intentionally assault Lowry (as appose to reacting to help a fan) and then berate him with vulgar comments for no reason. I don’t know. I’m just not a fan of the judge, jury, and executioner approach most seem to be taking from a video which doesn’t answer all these questions.


He had all the opportunity to defend himself. Don't hide behind the climate :lol: The Warriors could stick up for him if they felt he was wronged in any way.
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Re: The GSW Fan Who Shoved Lowry is a Part Owner 

Post#80 » by LLJ » Thu Jun 6, 2019 5:35 pm

Kawhiclap wrote:
LLJ wrote:A non story.


This is a bigger story than the nba finals imo.


That's cuz we are in control for the most part. Hopefully it stays that way until the end

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