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Re: Is Toronto sport radio ready for a dedicated daily basketball show? 

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Re: Is Toronto sport radio ready for a dedicated daily basketball show? 

Post#62 » by kj_ » Sat Feb 15, 2020 3:22 pm

It’s not Toronto sports radio. It’s Toronto hockey radio. Hours and hours of breaking down the mental state of the leafs, their back up goaltending and the hole on the right side of the D.

My favourite is when they attempt to start talking raptors, then 1 of the 3 hockey guys on the air realizes he knows absolutely nothing about hoops, has already listed 9 raptor players randomly without a point just to fill time then pivots to, “that’s just like in hockey when...” Hoops discussion over and back to debating to merits of playing Matthews, Marner and Nylander together.


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Re: Is Toronto sport radio ready for a dedicated daily basketball show? 

Post#63 » by digitalallstar » Sat Feb 15, 2020 3:28 pm

Back to the original question.

Do you guys think that we're at a point in this city, that a daily Basketball talkshow, would drive up advertising profit for Bell or Rogers?

I guess you'd have to ask yourself, would you tune in at the same time 5 days a week.

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Re: Is Toronto sport radio ready for a dedicated daily basketball show? 

Post#64 » by Ranger One » Sat Feb 15, 2020 4:09 pm

digitalallstar wrote:Back to the original question.

Do you guys think that we're at a point in this city, that a daily Basketball talkshow, would drive up advertising profit for Bell or Rogers?

I guess you'd have to ask yourself, would you tune in at the same time 5 days a week.

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No. Because the only people who listen to AM Radio are 30-60 year old white males who only watch hockey. We already had dedicated basketball talk shows on the radio but they call got cancelled due to lack of interest.
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Re: Is Toronto sport radio ready for a dedicated daily basketball show? 

Post#65 » by digitalallstar » Sat Feb 15, 2020 6:59 pm

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digitalallstar wrote:Back to the original question.

Do you guys think that we're at a point in this city, that a daily Basketball talkshow, would drive up advertising profit for Bell or Rogers?

I guess you'd have to ask yourself, would you tune in at the same time 5 days a week.

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No. Because the only people who listen to AM Radio are 30-60 year old white males who only watch hockey. We already had dedicated basketball talk shows on the radio but they call got cancelled due to lack of interest.
I've heard this a lot in this discussion. I beg to differ, The audience of free to air radio is by far bigger than the audience of podcasts and far more diverse than what you may feel.

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Re: Is Toronto sport radio ready for a dedicated daily basketball show? 

Post#66 » by Scott Hall » Wed Feb 19, 2020 2:25 am

When you have one of the worst sports franchises in North America in your city it's hard not to talk
about them and make fun of them and call in pissed to complain about them.

Bobcat once said the worst thing for sports radio is when the local sports teams are doing well people are
happy and things are going according to plan so nobody really calls in much. When teams are trash people
want to call in and fire and trade everybody and just vent.
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Post#67 » by Westside Gunn » Wed Feb 19, 2020 4:19 am

Scott Hall wrote:When you have one of the worst sports franchises in North America in your city it's hard not to talk
about them and make fun of them and call in pissed to complain about them.

Bobcat once said the worst thing for sports radio is when the local sports teams are doing well people are
happy and things are going according to plan so nobody really calls in much. When teams are trash people
want to call in and fire and trade everybody and just vent.


thats so true lol
and it makes sports radio even more entertaining.

but even if you listen to espn radio majority of the time they are talking about football. the nba isnt that important

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Post#68 » by SHFT » Wed Feb 19, 2020 12:25 pm

digitalallstar wrote:
Ranger One wrote:
digitalallstar wrote:Back to the original question.

Do you guys think that we're at a point in this city, that a daily Basketball talkshow, would drive up advertising profit for Bell or Rogers?

I guess you'd have to ask yourself, would you tune in at the same time 5 days a week.

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No. Because the only people who listen to AM Radio are 30-60 year old white males who only watch hockey. We already had dedicated basketball talk shows on the radio but they call got cancelled due to lack of interest.
I've heard this a lot in this discussion. I beg to differ, The audience of free to air radio is by far bigger than the audience of podcasts and far more diverse than what you may feel.

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You have numbers for that? I would say the potential audience for the driving commuter is bigger but no one has a radio at their office desk or in their home anymore. Podcasts are on every streaming platform out there,
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Post#69 » by Cluck Kent » Wed Feb 19, 2020 4:06 pm

Old, white, male here, staring down the barrel of 60 as one day we all do. I can't speak for every old, white male, but I'm ready for more basketball talk.

There is no real sports talk on Toronto radio. Here, it seems the real spectacle is the sports show itself. Talking heads interviewing other talking heads to fill up their hour trying to be clever. And the minutia, it's beyond believing. Hockey's a good game, no doubt. It's great to see most of the fighting gone and more emphasis on skilled play, but you've got 100 talking heads chasing 2 or 3 real story lines and missing out on the revolution that is taking place. I think it's shameful.

Maybe it is too many old, white males. But it's not this old, white male. I'll take more basketball talk every day.
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Post#70 » by digitalallstar » Wed Feb 19, 2020 7:02 pm

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digitalallstar wrote:
Ranger One wrote:
No. Because the only people who listen to AM Radio are 30-60 year old white males who only watch hockey. We already had dedicated basketball talk shows on the radio but they call got cancelled due to lack of interest.
I've heard this a lot in this discussion. I beg to differ, The audience of free to air radio is by far bigger than the audience of podcasts and far more diverse than what you may feel.

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You have numbers for that? I would say the potential audience for the driving commuter is bigger but no one has a radio at their office desk or in their home anymore. Podcasts are on every streaming platform out there,


I don't have numbers but I do visit offices, warehouses, drive by other service vehicles that have the window open and I'll tell you one thing, they're not streaming podcasts. The ones that do are wearing headphones and most work environments would discourage their employees from insulating themselves from their work environment.
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Post#71 » by digitalallstar » Wed Feb 19, 2020 7:07 pm

digitalallstar wrote:
SHFT wrote:
digitalallstar wrote:I've heard this a lot in this discussion. I beg to differ, The audience of free to air radio is by far bigger than the audience of podcasts and far more diverse than what you may feel.

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You have numbers for that? I would say the potential audience for the driving commuter is bigger but no one has a radio at their office desk or in their home anymore. Podcasts are on every streaming platform out there,


I don't have numbers but I do visit offices, warehouses, drive by other service vehicles that have the window open and I'll tell you one thing, they're not streaming podcasts. The ones that do are wearing headphones and most work environments would discourage their employees from insulating themselves from their work environment.


I do use podcasts but that's usually on the commute to work and home, which can range from 2-3h a day. I find I tune in to the radio during work hours. Thanks a window of 8-10h.
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Post#72 » by SHFT » Wed Feb 19, 2020 7:27 pm

digitalallstar wrote:
SHFT wrote:
digitalallstar wrote:I've heard this a lot in this discussion. I beg to differ, The audience of free to air radio is by far bigger than the audience of podcasts and far more diverse than what you may feel.

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You have numbers for that? I would say the potential audience for the driving commuter is bigger but no one has a radio at their office desk or in their home anymore. Podcasts are on every streaming platform out there,


I don't have numbers but I do visit offices, warehouses, drive by other service vehicles that have the window open and I'll tell you one thing, they're not streaming podcasts. The ones that do are wearing headphones and most work environments would discourage their employees from insulating themselves from their work environment.


I work in an office and literally no one has a radio at their desk (bar 1 or 2 people). I know in some offices they dont even allow you to bring something in and plug it in at your desk (citing safety - which never made sense to me but I dont make up the rules).

How would you know what someone is listening to just by hearing it and not actually seeing the source? Like, music is one thing that people tune in the radio for at generic times. A specific time for a specific thing is entirely different.
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Post#73 » by digitalallstar » Wed Feb 19, 2020 7:38 pm

SHFT wrote:
digitalallstar wrote:
SHFT wrote:
You have numbers for that? I would say the potential audience for the driving commuter is bigger but no one has a radio at their office desk or in their home anymore. Podcasts are on every streaming platform out there,


I don't have numbers but I do visit offices, warehouses, drive by other service vehicles that have the window open and I'll tell you one thing, they're not streaming podcasts. The ones that do are wearing headphones and most work environments would discourage their employees from insulating themselves from their work environment.


I work in an office and literally no one has a radio at their desk (bar 1 or 2 people). I know in some offices they dont even allow you to bring something in and plug it in at your desk (citing safety - which never made sense to me but I dont make up the rules).

How would you know what someone is listening to just by hearing it and not actually seeing the source? Like, music is one thing that people tune in the radio for at generic times. A specific time for a specific thing is entirely different.


Are we really going to debate this? How may offices do you visit a week? I can tell you I'm in at least a dozen different offices every week. I can tell when a radio is playing in the background.
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Post#74 » by digitalallstar » Wed Feb 19, 2020 7:42 pm

Just want to add another thing about Podcasts. They usually are free to swear. I was listening to a ringer podcast yesterday and one of the guys was swearing up a storm. So that right there excludes podcasts from being broadcast from public consumption.
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Post#75 » by SHFT » Wed Feb 19, 2020 7:44 pm

digitalallstar wrote:
SHFT wrote:
digitalallstar wrote:
I don't have numbers but I do visit offices, warehouses, drive by other service vehicles that have the window open and I'll tell you one thing, they're not streaming podcasts. The ones that do are wearing headphones and most work environments would discourage their employees from insulating themselves from their work environment.


I work in an office and literally no one has a radio at their desk (bar 1 or 2 people). I know in some offices they dont even allow you to bring something in and plug it in at your desk (citing safety - which never made sense to me but I dont make up the rules).

How would you know what someone is listening to just by hearing it and not actually seeing the source? Like, music is one thing that people tune in the radio for at generic times. A specific time for a specific thing is entirely different.


Are we really going to debate this? How may offices do you visit a week? I can tell you I'm in at least a dozen every week. I can tell when a radio is playing in the background.


lol cmon man are we really going to debate somehow your personal experience is worth more than mine? Like you have this master list of offices and radios per cubicle.

This is all anecdotal, at least I recognize that lol but I can play too.

Youre in a dozen offices a week? So like 2.5 lets say a day. Counting travel time and size of office + how many people are in the office vs working from home (and whatever your actual job entails) I seriously doubt you are actually able to walk around and look for radios unless we are talking an office of like 10 people which is irrelevant when we are talking scale.

You took your own experience and are trying to pass it as fact lol and then dismiss my legitimate inquiry as to how you can possibly know that.
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Post#76 » by digitalallstar » Wed Feb 19, 2020 11:46 pm

I never once said that my personal experience was more important than yours. I'm just an old lurker on these boards that has seen too many civil discussions degrade into full out flame wars. My apologies.

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Post#77 » by MikeMars » Thu Feb 20, 2020 12:48 am

kj_ wrote:It’s not Toronto sports radio. It’s Toronto hockey radio. Hours and hours of breaking down the mental state of the leafs, their back up goaltending and the hole on the right side of the D.

My favourite is when they attempt to start talking raptors, then 1 of the 3 hockey guys on the air realizes he knows absolutely nothing about hoops, has already listed 9 raptor players randomly without a point just to fill time then pivots to, “that’s just like in hockey when...” Hoops discussion over and back to debating to merits of playing Matthews, Marner and Nylander together.


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I really dont think it is, I think its baseball radio network, all the main radio hosts are baseball guys first, and I got no problem with baseball I even bought into all the hype but it really pissed me off when they'd take shots at the Raptors, snub them all last season, especially when they were going on that run, spring training blah blah instead of any coverage leading up to the playoffs. It really made me hate the people running that station, but realized its not their responsibility to bring me raptors coverage, especially when they own a baseball team. They only talk hockey because theyd be stupid not too, but i heard leafs fan complaining about lack of leafs coverage so it made me realize they're really not a hockey station.
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Post#78 » by Vlade Divac » Thu Feb 20, 2020 2:25 am

Who is listening radio nowadays? I cannot listen Fan590 even when they have basketball content because it is so many damn commercials ... Today you have so much pods, local with Raptors focus and US ones that I simply do not have time to hear all o them. So as far as I’m concern I really don care.
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Post#79 » by KL78192020 » Thu Feb 20, 2020 2:52 am

GED Education wrote:I have yet to find a person in Toronto who talks about the Jays with such interest in December than the guys at the Fan590.


They gotta pump out content on the team they own. Rogers has no choice but to push the jays as much as possible.
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Post#80 » by KL78192020 » Thu Feb 20, 2020 2:54 am

wow09 wrote:It's 2020 and we are discussing AM radio?


lol. They still have traffic/weather people apparently google maps or waze don't exist or the weather-network app.

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