Shams: Fred VanVleet has agreed to a four-year, $85M deal to re-sign with the Toronto Raptors

RaptorsNorth · Post #61 » by **RaptorsNorth** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:47 pm

BDDray420 wrote:Fair value. Fred deserves it

why are people so worried about him taking his game to another level when he showed he can do that in the NBA finals. There’s a reason so many fans wanted the guy on their team. We need to be asking this about pascal in the playoffs. He’s sitting on a far bigger contract than Fred and hasn’t really proven himself in the playoffs yet.

Fred and ibaka were 2 of the biggest factors aside from kawhi, Lowry and Gasol defense in that NBA finals. Those 2 guys are under appreciated by a section of this fan base.

Post #62 » by **The Answer!** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:47 pm

Serge next... How hungry is he to stay?

Tortiglioni · Post #63 » by **Tortiglioni** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:48 pm

Sell high.

2019nbachamps · Post #64 » by **2019nbachamps** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:48 pm

Fourth year is a player option so really it's a 3 year deal. Anyways, gives us a lot of flexibility. We need Serge back.

Sherlock · Post #65 » by **Sherlock** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:48 pm

pilkoids wrote:Feel good for him - he's worked to get where he is today, but I'm not sure I'm thrilled about this signing.

I'm not convinced Fred has any more improvements he can make to his game, and there are limitations with him that cannot be overcome. But that aside, I'm definitely happy for him.

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Even if you’re not in love with Fred’s game long term, he’s immensely tradeable on this annual salary and by re-signing him, the raps avoid losing a valuable asset for nothing.

As many have said, very fair deal for both sides. Well done!

DonDoolie · Post #66 » by **DonDoolie** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:49 pm

Terrible. 21 million for fred is a **** joke. Goodbye being a competitive team if we are just handing out money like this to role players. Especially a guard that **** the bed as soon as they put size on him. Ffs

Asif16 · Post #67 » by **Asif16** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:49 pm

Solidddddddd.

Now bring back Serge and Replace Gasol with a MLE big-man

Basketball_Jones · Post #68 » by **Basketball_Jones** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:50 pm

ItsDanger wrote:4 more years of getting stuffed at the rim.

Lol yeah for such a high IQ his awareness for attempting layups is so bad. If he can learn to draw fouls and fish for contact, or stop and lift his defenders like Lowry does he can be more workable there.

Asif16 · Post #69 » by **Asif16** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:50 pm

Blake Murphy saying he might have structured his deal so that the Raps have 2021 Flexibility.

That would be even better news

RaptorNews · Post #70 » by **RaptorNews** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:51 pm

DonDoolie wrote:Terrible. 21 million for fred is a **** joke. Goodbye being a competitive team if we are just handing out money like this to role players. Especially a guard that **** the bed as soon as they put size on him. Ffs

They can easily trade that, calm down

Asif16 · Post #71 » by **Asif16** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:51 pm

Raps still need another Ball Handler with Size who can create half-court offense.

canada_dry · Post #72 » by **canada_dry** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:51 pm

Incoming all the casuals talking about overpay

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mintsa · Post #73 » by **mintsa** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:51 pm

Was this a team friendly deal ?? Lol

Ganjamayne · Post #74 » by **Ganjamayne** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:51 pm

Asif16 wrote:Blake Murphy saying he might have structured his deal so that the Raps have 2021 Flexibility.

That would be even better news

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Post #75 » by **Duffman100** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:52 pm

My guess is serge on a one year 30 million.

Basketball_Jones · Post #76 » by **Basketball_Jones** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:52 pm

DonDoolie wrote:Terrible. 21 million for fred is a **** joke. Goodbye being a competitive team if we are just handing out money like this to role players. Especially a guard that **** the bed as soon as they put size on him. Ffs

Wrong, we stay competitive by retaining high end role players. I think you mean bye bye being contenders, and you know that was always the case without a superstar. Fred or no Fred, we aren’t contending without one.

Supermann98 · Post #77 » by **Supermann98** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:52 pm

Good deal for both sides. I woutbe shocked if he didn't have an offer out there for slightly more (Knicks)

Jcity08 · Post #78 » by **Jcity08** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:52 pm

Yeah I figured it was going to be anywhere from 80 to 85 mil contractcover 4 years.

Now that we got this out of the way, time to see if we resign Ibaka or figure out a solution to our diminished front court.

Basketball_Jones · Post #79 » by **Basketball_Jones** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:53 pm

Asif16 wrote:Raps still need another Ball Handler with Size who can create half-court offense.

Siakam.....lololol

pingpongrac · Post #80 » by **pingpongrac** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:54 pm

pilkoids wrote:Feel good for him - he's worked to get where he is today, but I'm not sure I'm thrilled about this signing.

I'm not convinced Fred has any more improvements he can make to his game, and there are limitations with him that cannot be overcome. But that aside, I'm definitely happy for him.

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As others have said, a floater would be a huge thing for FVV. That would be a massive addition that would give him more options when he puts the ball on the floor than getting stuffed at the rim or dribbling around until he finds an open teammate.

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