PG: Raptors @ Kings - Raps win. 'Bout time

Inklink · Post #61 » by **Inklink** » Sat Nov 20, 2021 5:38 am

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Scott Hall · Post #62 » by **Scott Hall** » Sat Nov 20, 2021 5:38 am

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Bruin · Post #63 » by **Bruin** » Sat Nov 20, 2021 5:42 am

Fred with that amazing 6 assists - 7 turnover ratio. What a PG

sycammer · Post #64 » by **sycammer** » Sat Nov 20, 2021 5:50 am

PrinceAli wrote:Fred with that amazing 6 assists - 7 turnover ratio. What a PG

that's why i suggest moving him to off-guard, make Scottie as pg

kalel123 · Post #65 » by **kalel123** » Sat Nov 20, 2021 5:55 am

There really isn't much analysis to be gained from this game other than the fact that Kings just suck. This is all them, nothing to do with us. Well not literally nothing but you get the idea.

720 · Post #66 » by **720** » Sat Nov 20, 2021 5:56 am

sycammer wrote:
PrinceAli wrote:Fred with that amazing 6 assists - 7 turnover ratio. What a PG

that's why i suggest moving him to off-guard, make Scottie as pg

Fred probably wouldn’t allow that. His ego too big to let a rookie play point forward/guard.

Bruin · Post #67 » by **Bruin** » Sat Nov 20, 2021 5:58 am

sycammer wrote:
PrinceAli wrote:Fred with that amazing 6 assists - 7 turnover ratio. What a PG

that's why i suggest moving him to off-guard, make Scottie as pg

I love Scottie and would love it, but I don’t think he’s ready for full PG duties (yet). I would like him to see him get opportunities to run point in spurts (kind of like we saw tonight) so he can slowly develop that part of his game more and more

Fred playing PG is a problem though. He’s just not a real PG. he’s a good player but he’s not a PG and don’t know how to run an offense

Our PG position is a bigger problem than our center position to me personally. The value of Kyle is being highlighted more and more as we see Fred running the offense

Bruin · Post #68 » by **Bruin** » Sat Nov 20, 2021 5:59 am

720 wrote:
sycammer wrote:
PrinceAli wrote:Fred with that amazing 6 assists - 7 turnover ratio. What a PG

that's why i suggest moving him to off-guard, make Scottie as pg

Fred probably wouldn’t allow that. His ego too big to let a rookie play point forward/guard.

At some point, gotta hope Masai takes matters into his own hands. Probably not gonna happen till next season tho

aminiaturebuddha · Post #69 » by **aminiaturebuddha** » Sat Nov 20, 2021 6:02 am

kalel123 wrote:There really isn't much analysis to be gained from this game other than the fact that Kings just suck. This is all them, nothing to do with us. Well not literally nothing but you get the idea.

I disagree. The Raptors defence was much better tonight. And yeah, the Kings suck, but their offence has been one of the best so far this season.

The Raps were much more crisp on their switches and rotations tonight. It was very noticeable on the perimeter. Guys like Fox and Haliburton are normally quite good at being able to get into the paint and wreak havoc. Tonight, they had a really hard time turning the corner on picks, because the Raptors switched well, and the secondary defender was almost always there to close off the lane.

Definitely need more of that going forward, but it's a good sign for the defence, and clearly the kind of thing Nurse's system is designed to do well when it's executed correctly.

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Ref_from_hell · Post #71 » by **Ref_from_hell** » Sat Nov 20, 2021 6:04 am

And here come the usual suspects hating on Fred right on cue

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Bruin · Post #74 » by **Bruin** » Sat Nov 20, 2021 6:07 am

Ref_from_hell wrote:And here come the usual suspects hating on Fred right on cue

Do you genuinely think he played a good game?

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gbball · Post #76 » by **gbball** » Sat Nov 20, 2021 6:09 am

aminiaturebuddha wrote:
kalel123 wrote:There really isn't much analysis to be gained from this game other than the fact that Kings just suck. This is all them, nothing to do with us. Well not literally nothing but you get the idea.

I disagree. The Raptors defence was much better tonight. And yeah, the Kings suck, but their offence has been one of the best so far this season.

The Raps were much more crisp on their switches and rotations tonight. It was very noticeable on the perimeter. Guys like Fox and Haliburton are normally quite good at being able to get into the paint and wreak havoc. Tonight, they had a really hard time turning the corner on picks, because the Raptors switched well, and the secondary defender was almost always there to close off the lane.

Definitely need more of that going forward, but it's a good sign for the defence, and clearly the kind of thing Nurse's system is designed to do well when it's executed correctly.

The schemes defensively were different than the last few. We stayed at home...didn't trap unnecessarily and mostly played man to man which should be enough against most teams. We also conceded contested 2pt looks and didn't overhelp, so we didn't allow as many easy shots from 3. We can do a surprise blitz here and there, but what they were doing against Utah, Portland and Detroit was nonsensical.

Los_29 · Post #77 » by **Los_29** » Sat Nov 20, 2021 6:13 am

Ref_from_hell wrote:And here come the usual suspects hating on Fred right on cue

It's amazing stuff. Apparently his ego is so big that Masai needs to step in. :lol:

mdenny · Post #78 » by **mdenny** » Sat Nov 20, 2021 6:15 am

Los_29 wrote:
Ref_from_hell wrote:And here come the usual suspects hating on Fred right on cue

It's amazing stuff. Apparently his ego is so big that Masai needs to step in.

He's 9th in the league in Assists to turnovers. Ahead of Kyle Lowry lol.

bon · Post #79 » by **bon** » Sat Nov 20, 2021 6:17 am

lobosloboslobos wrote:Pascal has to go

Raptors would've won by 50 if Pascal wasn't playing

Bruin · Post #80 » by **Bruin** » Sat Nov 20, 2021 6:19 am

mdenny wrote:
Los_29 wrote:
Ref_from_hell wrote:And here come the usual suspects hating on Fred right on cue

It's amazing stuff. Apparently his ego is so big that Masai needs to step in.

He's 9th in the league in Assists to turnovers. Ahead of Kyle Lowry lol.

Not sure where you’re getting that. Kyle has a better assist to turnover ratio this season

Fred has 6.8 AST to 3.1 Turnovers
Kyle has 7.6 AST to 3.0 Turnovers