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Re: Precious Achiuwa is an elite defender 

Post#61 » by Los_29 » Tue Mar 22, 2022 12:19 am

TheBoi10 wrote:
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Los_29 wrote:Who is going to tell Tripa that OG is averaging 18ppg this year?


I'm aware. Still can't create his own shot to score 20 PPG and never will.

He isn't taking away shots from Siakam/FVV/Barnes going forward. There aren't enough shots to go around. Basketball has a time limit.

You're right about OG, his numbers reflect the eye test. OG is literally the worst ISO player in the league out of 71 qualifying (FVV was 2nd worst) as indicated by KOC's article at the beginning of the month.

https://www.theringer.com/nba/2022/2/28/22954184/zion-williamson-rumors-james-harden-joel-embiid


We aren’t talking about his iso ability though. We are talking about his ability to average 20ppg.
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Re: Precious Achiuwa is an elite defender 

Post#62 » by TheBoi10 » Tue Mar 22, 2022 12:20 am

Los_29 wrote:
TheBoi10 wrote:
tripa wrote:
I'm aware. Still can't create his own shot to score 20 PPG and never will.

He isn't taking away shots from Siakam/FVV/Barnes going forward. There aren't enough shots to go around. Basketball has a time limit.

You're right about OG, his numbers reflect the eye test. OG is literally the worst ISO player in the league out of 71 qualifying (FVV was 2nd worst) as indicated by KOC's article at the beginning of the month.

https://www.theringer.com/nba/2022/2/28/22954184/zion-williamson-rumors-james-harden-joel-embiid


We aren’t talking about his iso ability though. We are talking about his ability to average 20ppg.

"Create his own shot" :lol:
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Re: Precious Achiuwa is an elite defender 

Post#63 » by Ell Curry » Tue Mar 22, 2022 12:24 am

TheBoi10 wrote:
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Los_29 wrote:Who is going to tell Tripa that OG is averaging 18ppg this year?


I'm aware. Still can't create his own shot to score 20 PPG and never will.

He isn't taking away shots from Siakam/FVV/Barnes going forward. There aren't enough shots to go around. Basketball has a time limit.

You're right about OG, his numbers reflect the eye test. OG is literally the worst ISO player in the league out of 71 qualifying (FVV was 2nd worst) as indicated by KOC's article at the beginning of the month.

https://www.theringer.com/nba/2022/2/28/22954184/zion-williamson-rumors-james-harden-joel-embiid


I gotta admit this surprised me since he seems solid enough backing down smaller guys and doesn't seem to do a ton of other ISO stuff, but this is why you can watch every game and still be fooled.

I kind of like the OG off the bench idea for the rest of this season. May depend on playoff matchups though. But VanVleet-Trent-Barnes-Siakam-Precious with OG and Boucher playing most of the bench minutes and a few minutes for one of Birch or Thad looks fine to me if we have to start with a center since we're playing Embiid or we want Precious on Giannis or Bam.
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Re: Precious Achiuwa is an elite defender 

Post#64 » by tripa » Tue Mar 22, 2022 12:45 am

TheBoi10 wrote:
Los_29 wrote:
TheBoi10 wrote:You're right about OG, his numbers reflect the eye test. OG is literally the worst ISO player in the league out of 71 qualifying (FVV was 2nd worst) as indicated by KOC's article at the beginning of the month.

https://www.theringer.com/nba/2022/2/28/22954184/zion-williamson-rumors-james-harden-joel-embiid


We aren’t talking about his iso ability though. We are talking about his ability to average 20ppg.

"Create his own shot" :lol:


These people are completely insane, man. Someone else in this thread compared Precious to Marc Gasol.

Can't just enjoy the Raptors and be realistic at the same time.
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Re: Precious Achiuwa is an elite defender 

Post#65 » by HiJiNX » Tue Mar 22, 2022 2:10 pm

Stayed in front of Derozan well but gave him too much space on the jumper. Needed to be closer with the shot contests. Hopefully Precious learns from it.
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Re: Precious Achiuwa is an elite defender 

Post#66 » by tripa » Sat Jan 21, 2023 10:57 pm

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OakleyDokely wrote:Moving forward, I like the idea of starting:

Precious
Siakam
Barnes
OG
VV

GTJ would be an ideal 6th man type who can come in and provide energy with his defence and his ability to hit shots. He could also become trade bait if his asking price becomes to high. I'm not sure I'd be comfortable paying him more than 25M a year. Raps are going to have an interesting decision with him.


Nah, this lineup is bottom 5 in the league offensively.


Far from it actually. Barnes and Achiuwa will improve a ton and Fred will be healthy again.


Wrong again.
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Re: Precious Achiuwa is an elite defender 

Post#67 » by tripa » Sat Jan 21, 2023 10:57 pm

TravisScott55 wrote:
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OakleyDokely wrote:Moving forward, I like the idea of starting:

Precious
Siakam
Barnes
OG
VV

GTJ would be an ideal 6th man type who can come in and provide energy with his defence and his ability to hit shots. He could also become trade bait if his asking price becomes to high. I'm not sure I'd be comfortable paying him more than 25M a year. Raps are going to have an interesting decision with him.


Nah, this lineup is bottom 5 in the league offensively.


Lol that line up could have 4 guys that can give you 20 per night by next season.


:lol:
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Re: Precious Achiuwa is an elite defender 

Post#68 » by YogurtProducer » Sat Jan 21, 2023 11:07 pm

tripa wrote:
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tripa wrote:
Nah, this lineup is bottom 5 in the league offensively.


Far from it actually. Barnes and Achiuwa will improve a ton and Fred will be healthy again.


Wrong again.

What was the point of bumping this thread for this?
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Re: Precious Achiuwa is an elite defender 

Post#69 » by Wannabe MEP » Sat Jan 21, 2023 11:09 pm

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tripa wrote:Wrong again.

What was the point of bumping this thread for this?

Bizarre thread bump. Team Achiuwa-Cynic bumps an Achiuwa thread...when he's +13 at halftime in his first start this season. :dontknow:
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Post#70 » by Psubs » Sat Jan 21, 2023 11:18 pm

Before Achiuwa went down with injury, the Raptors were looking like a top 10 team in the league.
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Re: Precious Achiuwa is an elite defender 

Post#71 » by hype_2004 » Sun Jan 22, 2023 12:12 am

He can't shoot and makes too many bonehead plays, team has too many defenders and not enough shooters, it's a make or break league.
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Re: Precious Achiuwa is an elite defender 

Post#72 » by Los_29 » Sun Jan 22, 2023 12:22 am

hype_2004 wrote:He can't shoot and makes too many bonehead plays, team has too many defenders and not enough shooters, it's a make or break league.


Who can’t shoot?
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Re: Precious Achiuwa is an elite defender 

Post#73 » by YogurtProducer » Sun Jan 22, 2023 12:29 am

hype_2004 wrote:He can't shoot and makes too many bonehead plays, team has too many defenders and not enough shooters, it's a make or break league.

Lol your takes seem to be “everyone on this team sucks”
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Re: Precious Achiuwa is an elite defender 

Post#74 » by pingpongrac » Sun Jan 22, 2023 1:38 am

YogurtProducer wrote:
tripa wrote:
Madhouse wrote:
Far from it actually. Barnes and Achiuwa will improve a ton and Fred will be healthy again.


Wrong again.

What was the point of bumping this thread for this?
There is no point other than grasping for another "gotcha" moment. The funny part is that poster thinks they've done something here when really they've just brought back a thread where basically everyone had the right idea regarding Achiuwa/the team other than expecting FVV to be healthier.
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Re: Precious Achiuwa is an elite defender 

Post#75 » by PerfectJab » Sun Jan 22, 2023 1:44 am

Psubs wrote:Before Achiuwa went down with injury, the Raptors were looking like a top 10 team in the league.


Yes, Achiuwa was the x factor :lol:

The guy sucks, role player at best. I know his value is way above Maxey but some of you need to stop overrating him
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Re: Precious Achiuwa is an elite defender 

Post#76 » by Los_29 » Sun Jan 22, 2023 1:55 am

PerfectJab wrote:
Psubs wrote:Before Achiuwa went down with injury, the Raptors were looking like a top 10 team in the league.


Yes, Achiuwa was the x factor :lol:

The guy sucks, role player at best. I know his value is way above Maxey but some of you need to stop overrating him


The funny thing is Maxey just got demoted to the bench because his defense is absolutely atrocious. Then you have Precious putting up a 17/11/3/2/2 line with great defense. Pretty wild.
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Re: Precious Achiuwa is an elite defender 

Post#77 » by Appostis » Sun Jan 22, 2023 2:18 am

Precious is one of 4 players I consider boaderline untouchable.

Pascal/OG/Barnes/Precious
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Post#78 » by Steelo Green » Sun Jan 22, 2023 2:21 am

No one on this team should be untouchable.
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Re: Precious Achiuwa is an elite defender 

Post#79 » by will » Sun Jan 22, 2023 2:27 am

Why after one game do people do this?
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Re: Precious Achiuwa is an elite defender 

Post#80 » by pingpongrac » Sun Jan 22, 2023 2:31 am

will wrote:Why after one game do people do this?
Maybe you should ask tripa. They're the one that bumped it and tried to spin something in a negative light after Achiuwa had an outstanding defensive game while chipping in 17 points and 3 assists on solid efficiency on the other end.
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