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WT: Raptors have been offered 3 FRPs for OG (Smh its just the Knicks)

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Re: WT: Raptors have been offered 3 FRPs for OG 

Post#61 » by Raptors Realtor » Tue Jan 24, 2023 7:58 pm

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They won't be in the 20s tho. Its very unlikely the Pistons will go from bottom 5 to top 10. What's more likely is by the time 2026 comes, they'll be trending up and one season we will get a pick in the 10-15 range. Same w the Mavs. That roster is not going to be top 10. its going to be a teen pick.

The wizards? They might be bad until 2026 w how they draft but I'd still doubt it. They picked #10 this year and will probably be around that range again this season. I think you end up with 3 late lottery picks tbh


We have no idea who made the offer.


The knicks really want OG. It's been rumoured multiple times. Where there is smoke there is fire. tbh I still think 3 picks in the 20s is not that bad for OG. You aren't gonna go into the tax to keep this roster when we are currently bottom 7. You gotta maximize your assets.

We did pick OG in the 20s btw....


Just a terrible take... We also got Flynn & Caboclo in the early 20s... Would you be happy with 3 guys of their calibre in return for OG?
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Re: WT: Raptors have been offered 3 FRPs for OG 

Post#62 » by Ackshun » Tue Jan 24, 2023 7:58 pm

NeoDragonKnight wrote:Man I am glad some of you guys are not GMs, 3 unprotected late round, potentially 2nd round picks? really? You think you can get a Defensive Player of the year or first team defensive player from that? Because that is what you are giving up.


Anyone have time to fact check this guy ?

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Re: WT: Raptors have been offered 3 FRPs for OG 

Post#63 » by canada_dry » Tue Jan 24, 2023 7:59 pm

Theres rumblings in new Orleans.

We need to start taking a look at the possibility of targeting ingram.

That doesn't necessarily get in the way of the poetl trade. But im just putting it out there.

I know most people are looking at dyson daniels and picks, but Ingram might be the real get here.

Fits the vision perfectly too. Size. Length. And we need a bucket.

Management can probably sell him on sitting some games to end the year if the season doesn't turn around in time too.

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Re: WT: Raptors have been offered 3 FRPs for OG 

Post#64 » by throwbackvault » Tue Jan 24, 2023 8:02 pm

canada_dry wrote:Theres rumblings in new Orleans.

We need to start taking a look at the possibility of targeting ingram.

That doesn't necessarily get in the way of the poetl trade. But im just putting it out there.

I know most people are looking at dyson daniels and picks, but Ingram might be the real get here.

Fits the vision perfectly too.

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Trey Murphy, Dyson Daniels, and a pick. I’d be all over that for OG.
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Re: WT: Raptors have been offered 3 FRPs for OG 

Post#65 » by canada_dry » Tue Jan 24, 2023 8:06 pm

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canada_dry wrote:Theres rumblings in new Orleans.

We need to start taking a look at the possibility of targeting ingram.

That doesn't necessarily get in the way of the poetl trade. But im just putting it out there.

I know most people are looking at dyson daniels and picks, but Ingram might be the real get here.

Fits the vision perfectly too.

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Trey Murphy, Dyson Daniels, and a pick. I’d be all over that for OG.
I know. And thats not bad. Very good actually especially if we're not looking to compete going forward.

But the rumblings have been about ingram and his happiness and willingness to be in NOP. NOP management is going to look at keeping those young guys if that's the case. If masai is looking to stay competitive (and all reports point that way) Ingram would be a really nice get. Really really nice.

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Re: WT: Raptors have been offered 3 FRPs for OG 

Post#66 » by LastNameEver » Tue Jan 24, 2023 8:06 pm

Ackshun wrote:
NeoDragonKnight wrote:Man I am glad some of you guys are not GMs, 3 unprotected late round, potentially 2nd round picks? really? You think you can get a Defensive Player of the year or first team defensive player from that? Because that is what you are giving up.


Anyone have time to fact check this guy ?

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Its like saying Siakam is an MVP, just homer babble being used pragmatically and everyone going along with it. And i value OG a lot.
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Re: WT: Raptors have been offered 3 FRPs for OG 

Post#67 » by HangTime » Tue Jan 24, 2023 8:07 pm

It's probably the Knicks, with the 3 picks they got for the #11 pick the past draft.
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Re: WT: Raptors have been offered 3 FRPs for OG 

Post#68 » by Jadoogar » Tue Jan 24, 2023 8:07 pm

Dyson Daniels (or Herb Jones), Graham, Hayes and 1 pick for OG is my dream trade. We take back a bad contract in Graham in exchange for the extra asset.
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Re: WT: Raptors have been offered 3 FRPs for OG 

Post#69 » by brownbobcat » Tue Jan 24, 2023 8:07 pm

NotMyKawhi wrote:Wiz picked #10 last year.... will pick in that range again this year.

And could be in that range again in 2024, 2025 and so on. Beal's not getting any younger and wasn't that great to start with. I don't see the Wiz getting any better

NotMyKawhi wrote:The Pistons have Cade, Ivey, Bey, Duran and a top 5 pick this year. They aren't going to be bad until 2026. I'd bet on it

Another team that's had 8 top-10 picks over the past 13 years and not much to show for it. I think it's more likely their pick will convey given the timelines, but best-case scenario you're probably getting back two mid-late 1sts and a 2nd for OG.
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Re: WT: Raptors have been offered 3 FRPs for OG 

Post#70 » by blastttOFF » Tue Jan 24, 2023 8:20 pm

OG is literally every team's coveted players list.
big wing, top 5 defensive player in the nba, good to great three poitn shooting, good FT shooter, extensive playoff experience, still only 25 years old.

dude is a catch ;)
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Re: WT: Raptors have been offered 3 FRPs for OG 

Post#71 » by Buyaka » Tue Jan 24, 2023 8:22 pm

Kevin Willis wrote:No thanks. OG stays.


I concur.
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Re: WT: Raptors have been offered 3 FRPs for OG 

Post#72 » by pingpongrac » Tue Jan 24, 2023 8:25 pm

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NeoDragonKnight wrote:Man I am glad some of you guys are not GMs, 3 unprotected late round, potentially 2nd round picks? really? You think you can get a Defensive Player of the year or first team defensive player from that? Because that is what you are giving up. You need at least one high level guaranteed asset coming back, whether it is another player coming back or unprotected draft picks. Teams highly covet a player like this, and they are on every championship contending team, unless you get blown away, you keep OG and focus trading the other guys like FVV, Trent and even Siakam, whos skill sets are way more common.


I was led to believe the placement of a pick doesnt matter, whats the harm in sliding down to 2nd round picks? Masai will still draft in the top of the class, when they zig we zag, right?


There is a massive difference in sliding down 10-20 spots with a swap of picks that will convey a few months down the line (which ended up being 13 spots for us last year) and 3 picks that could range from anywhere from 15th to 60th 2-5 years from now. Why is that so hard to understand?
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Re: WT: Raptors have been offered 3 FRPs for OG 

Post#73 » by throwbackvault » Tue Jan 24, 2023 8:28 pm

canada_dry wrote:
throwbackvault wrote:
canada_dry wrote:Theres rumblings in new Orleans.

We need to start taking a look at the possibility of targeting ingram.

That doesn't necessarily get in the way of the poetl trade. But im just putting it out there.

I know most people are looking at dyson daniels and picks, but Ingram might be the real get here.

Fits the vision perfectly too.

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Trey Murphy, Dyson Daniels, and a pick. I’d be all over that for OG.
I know. And thats not bad. Very good actually especially if we're not looking to compete going forward.

But the rumblings have been about ingram and his happiness and willingness to be in NOP. NOP management is going to look at keeping those young guys if that's the case. If masai is looking to stay competitive (and all reports point that way) Ingram would be a really nice get. Really really nice.

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I wasn't aware of any rumblings, but I don't know how I feel about trading for Ingram. Dude is made of glass. He hasn't played over ~60 games since 2016.
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Re: WT: Raptors have been offered 3 FRPs for OG 

Post#74 » by TorontoBarneys » Tue Jan 24, 2023 8:29 pm

canada_dry wrote:Theres rumblings in new Orleans.

We need to start taking a look at the possibility of targeting ingram.

That doesn't necessarily get in the way of the poetl trade. But im just putting it out there.

I know most people are looking at dyson daniels and picks, but Ingram might be the real get here.

Fits the vision perfectly too. Size. Length. And we need a bucket.

Management can probably sell him on sitting some games to end the year if the season doesn't turn around in time too.

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I would be all over a package centered around Siakam for Ingram. Oof, hed be a beast on our squad.
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Re: WT: Raptors have been offered 3 FRPs for OG 

Post#75 » by TOStateofMind » Tue Jan 24, 2023 8:31 pm

If they made a really good offer a Pels package def would be an interesting one.
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Re: WT: Raptors have been offered 3 FRPs for OG 

Post#76 » by PhilBlackson » Tue Jan 24, 2023 8:33 pm

Jadoogar wrote:Dyson Daniels (or Herb Jones), Graham, Hayes and 1 pick for OG is my dream trade. We take back a bad contract in Graham in exchange for the extra asset.


Swap out Daniels for Murphy for me.

I get that Daniels has very nice potential to be a primary or secondary facilitator with some nice scoring upside but I feel like with Scottie (in particular) & Pascal here, both of those guys need the ball in their hands & decision making to be their most effective. Sometimes you just need another player that helps their lives by being able to bomb away from 3...OG does that, Trey just does it better and I think there's upside there to be a better overall scorer as he seems bit more fluid in his movements and of course his shooting touch is still there on pull jumpers off the dribble. Add more things to his bag I don't see what would stop him from being a 22+ppg scorer PLUS we get a pick for another shot for a good upside player, at worst a likely very good rotation player (assuming it's a LAL pick). That to me would be more an ideal OG trade, where you might not get quite as intense of a defender but still a very good one, with more offensive upside AND actually helps bring up 3pt shooting percentages (not possibly reduces it as may be the case with Dyson) but that's just my 2c.
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Re: WT: Raptors have been offered 3 FRPs for OG 

Post#77 » by Jcity08 » Tue Jan 24, 2023 8:34 pm

pingpongrac wrote:
Jcity08 wrote:
NeoDragonKnight wrote:Man I am glad some of you guys are not GMs, 3 unprotected late round, potentially 2nd round picks? really? You think you can get a Defensive Player of the year or first team defensive player from that? Because that is what you are giving up. You need at least one high level guaranteed asset coming back, whether it is another player coming back or unprotected draft picks. Teams highly covet a player like this, and they are on every championship contending team, unless you get blown away, you keep OG and focus trading the other guys like FVV, Trent and even Siakam, whos skill sets are way more common.


I was led to believe the placement of a pick doesnt matter, whats the harm in sliding down to 2nd round picks? Masai will still draft in the top of the class, when they zig we zag, right?


There is a massive difference in sliding down 10-20 spots with a swap of picks that will convey a few months down the line (which ended up being 13 spots for us last year) and 3 picks that could range from anywhere from 15th to 60th 2-5 years from now. Why is that so hard to understand?


Its very convenient when a pick matters and when it doesn't, Ill remember that when Im told Im overreacting or to not believe what my eyes are telling me.
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Re: WT: Raptors have been offered 3 FRPs for OG 

Post#78 » by OakleyDokely » Tue Jan 24, 2023 8:38 pm

Jcity08 wrote:
pingpongrac wrote:
Jcity08 wrote:
I was led to believe the placement of a pick doesnt matter, whats the harm in sliding down to 2nd round picks? Masai will still draft in the top of the class, when they zig we zag, right?


There is a massive difference in sliding down 10-20 spots with a swap of picks that will convey a few months down the line (which ended up being 13 spots for us last year) and 3 picks that could range from anywhere from 15th to 60th 2-5 years from now. Why is that so hard to understand?


Its very convenient when a pick matters and when it doesn't, Ill remember that when Im told Im overreacting or to not believe what my eyes are telling me.


I don't want to trade OG for the 20th pick or the 33rd pick.
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Re: WT: Raptors have been offered 3 FRPs for OG 

Post#79 » by Jcity08 » Tue Jan 24, 2023 8:39 pm

OakleyDokely wrote:
Jcity08 wrote:
pingpongrac wrote:
There is a massive difference in sliding down 10-20 spots with a swap of picks that will convey a few months down the line (which ended up being 13 spots for us last year) and 3 picks that could range from anywhere from 15th to 60th 2-5 years from now. Why is that so hard to understand?


Its very convenient when a pick matters and when it doesn't, Ill remember that when Im told Im overreacting or to not believe what my eyes are telling me.


I don't want to trade OG for the 20th pick or the 33rd pick.


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Re: WT: Raptors have been offered 3 FRPs for OG 

Post#80 » by arbsn » Tue Jan 24, 2023 8:40 pm

Trading OG for a picks/blue chip prospect is a no brainer. He is our most valuable piece. We will get swindled on any Siakam deal. Fred is basically worthless

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