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[Shams] - Raptors Now Taking Calls for OG

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Re: [Shams] - Raptors Now Taking Calls for OG 

Post#61 » by tripa » Tue Jan 31, 2023 6:16 pm

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OG’s brother caught liking this tweet about OG in Phoenix…


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Re: [Shams] - Raptors Now Taking Calls for OG 

Post#62 » by hype_2004 » Tue Jan 31, 2023 6:17 pm

With all things considered, Masai will not trade him to an East rival unless they overpay. Most likely OG will get scooped up by a Western conference team on the brink of a title run that needs that premier 3 and D player to support their Superstar....my dark horse is the Nuggets. Ujiri has a history with them being a former GM and he still has connections to the organizations leaving on friendly terms. So the trade that I proposed would be KCP, Bones Hyland, all 2023 second round from OKC, Miami, Washington and Dallas with the exception of their own, 2024 and 2025 1st unprotected. This is an all in move for the Nuggets adding OG and still retaining their core of Jokic, Porter Jr, Murray and Aaron Gordon.
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Re: [Shams] - Raptors Now Taking Calls for OG 

Post#63 » by Revived » Tue Jan 31, 2023 6:18 pm

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Johnson is actually a good defender, would have him above average defender, but not at level of OG/Mikal.
Johnson actually really athletic, maybe bouncier then both OG and Bridges as a reference. He’s not as strong or has a crazy wingspan like OG/Mikal, but he’s always in the right spot.

That said, I don’t see Phx considering moving Cam for OG. Maybe in a deal for Siakam, any OG deal is likely to be draft pick based


Don't worry we're not super keen on Cam because he's an RFA with 2 knee surgeries under his belt and 2-3 picks in the 20s isn't that appealing.

You can’t talk about Cam’s 2 knee injuries without acknowledging that OG is very injury prone and misses a ton of games just about every season.
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Re: [Shams] - Raptors Now Taking Calls for OG 

Post#64 » by RonaldArtest » Tue Jan 31, 2023 6:18 pm

CoinTossRoss31 wrote:Dyson Daniels + the Lakers pick is the dream scenario here.

Sharpe + UNP POR first would also be pretty great

Would love the NO deal but it would come with at least top-5 protections or so, given where the pick is currently and the lottery hasn’t taken place. If it conveyed into second round picks or something, that would be a tough pill to swallow.
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Re: [Shams] - Raptors Now Taking Calls for OG 

Post#65 » by Raptorfan2012 » Tue Jan 31, 2023 6:20 pm

Suns package suck. Need at least a budding young star in return. Im not a big fan of late round picks. No matter how good your scouting is, you are more likely to miss than hit.
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Re: [Shams] - Raptors Now Taking Calls for OG 

Post#66 » by elecblue » Tue Jan 31, 2023 6:21 pm

WuTang_OG wrote:Going to hurt to lose OG but the timing might be now. I also think Nurse's comments last night was a bit of hint/inside track that OG was to get traded since he was shut down until deadline. Somethings up. Nurse was taken back and thought he was game to game IMO

If you can get a young player and 2 picks, I think you do it. His value is at its highest right now even though I'd much rather move Fred first.


Zach Lowe mentioned it couple weeks ago, if we really put OG on the market, right away we'd get 7 or 8 OK offers. Then Masai make them bid against one another and we'll get a really good offer. I don't want to lose OG, I think he's THE best 3&D guy in the league at DPOY level defense, fits in all 30 team now and for the rest of his career. But I'm sad to say I think his talent is a bit wasted right now. Also, it does seem like we can get a bidding war going between Suns, Grizz, Pels and maybe even more teams.
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Re: [Shams] - Raptors Now Taking Calls for OG 

Post#67 » by Yeezus_ » Tue Jan 31, 2023 6:21 pm

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Yeezus_ wrote:Some of you guys are underrating Cam Johnson and how his game will translate around Scottie Barnes. Cam is an elite shooter, way better than OG. Cam is shooting 44% from 3 and shot 42% last year, OG has never shot over 40% in his career and has shot 36% for the past two seasons. Yes, OG is an elite defender but Cam is solid on that end too.

+ those two first round picks will be way out which could end up being really good down the road.


Cam is a dime a dozen role player who will have a productive career bouncing around the league.

He's insignificant to anything relating to our ceiling and the real value of a trade like this is the picks (and the very important lack of protections on those picks).

He doesn't impact the direction of what our team should do from here. Losing OG does that, which should trigger the blowing up of the Siakam timeline if you're making a futures play in this trade.

I completely disagree with what you're saying. There's another level Cam can get to while being a perfect compliment to Scottie.
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Post#68 » by Rapsfan07 » Tue Jan 31, 2023 6:24 pm

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CoinTossRoss31 wrote:Dyson Daniels + the Lakers pick is the dream scenario here.

Sharpe + UNP POR first would also be pretty great

Would love the NO deal but it would come with at least top-5 protections or so, given where the pick is currently and the lottery hasn’t taken place. If it conveyed into second round picks or something, that would be a tough pill to swallow.


We'd need to insist that pick is Top 2 protected at best.
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Re: [Shams] - Raptors Now Taking Calls for OG 

Post#69 » by Raptors Realtor » Tue Jan 31, 2023 6:27 pm

Revived wrote:
Raptors Realtor wrote:
Crives wrote:
(Suns fan here)
Johnson is actually a good defender, would have him above average defender, but not at level of OG/Mikal.
Johnson actually really athletic, maybe bouncier then both OG and Bridges as a reference. He’s not as strong or has a crazy wingspan like OG/Mikal, but he’s always in the right spot.

That said, I don’t see Phx considering moving Cam for OG. Maybe in a deal for Siakam, any OG deal is likely to be draft pick based


Don't worry we're not super keen on Cam because he's an RFA with 2 knee surgeries under his belt and 2-3 picks in the 20s isn't that appealing.

You can’t talk about Cam’s 2 knee injuries without acknowledging that OG is very injury prone and misses a ton of games just about every season.


It's one thing to miss a couple weeks here and there due to a sprain, appendicitis, etc as opposed to having 2 major knee surgeries which could result in more extensive time missed going forward and/or a shortened career.
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Re: [Shams] - Raptors Now Taking Calls for OG 

Post#70 » by gerrit4 » Tue Jan 31, 2023 6:27 pm

Bruin wrote:I feel like if an OG trade happens, it’ll be sooner rather than on deadline day. Would probably want to make follow up trades depending on what we get back for him. OG might be gone this week

Totally just a hunch though. Based on nothing legitimate lol


You're right. It's probably either happening sooner, or even in the summer. The more urgent trade (I'm guessing) is moving one of Fred or Gary, because I'll bet they know they're not willing to outbid other teams for those two. They can wait until the summer and hope for a decent S&T package, but it's easier now as it can be part of a three team trade etc.
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Re: [Shams] - Raptors Now Taking Calls for OG 

Post#71 » by Los_29 » Tue Jan 31, 2023 6:28 pm

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RonaldArtest wrote:
CoinTossRoss31 wrote:Dyson Daniels + the Lakers pick is the dream scenario here.

Sharpe + UNP POR first would also be pretty great

Would love the NO deal but it would come with at least top-5 protections or so, given where the pick is currently and the lottery hasn’t taken place. If it conveyed into second round picks or something, that would be a tough pill to swallow.


We'd need to insist that pick is Top 2 protected at best.


Yeah a Daniels + Lakers pick swap is not enough for me. Lakers could just as easily end up with a worse pick than us which would make that deal awful. LOL. NOP will place protections on that pick anyway and we'd need to have more picks coming back because of it.
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Post#72 » by Badonkadonk » Tue Jan 31, 2023 6:31 pm

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Outdated info. OG has pushed the timeline on that. Now you understand Nurse throwing management under the bus when it came tk OG being out for the entire road trip. Sounds like Nurse is on Team Klutch before he's on Team Raptors.

This is some wild narrative lmao

The FO is simply directing the medical staff to be 'extra cautious' to ensure OG doesn't get hurt. Nick's job is to win, so he just wants him on the road trip.

"Team Klutch" lol
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Re: [Shams] - Raptors Now Taking Calls for OG 

Post#73 » by ItsDanger » Tue Jan 31, 2023 6:32 pm

tripa wrote:This board was convinced that we lost the Norm trade on day 1, so lets be careful to not overreact when this trade happens.

I preferred draft capital. They punted. But the right time to trade him was last season in order to maximize value. Management spinning its wheels. The record speaks for itself.
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Re: [Shams] - Raptors Now Taking Calls for OG 

Post#74 » by AbC? » Tue Jan 31, 2023 6:33 pm

Can Johnson is 26, older than OG lmao. And he’s mediocre. If we’re moving OG I want a good YOUNG prospect and picks.
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Post#75 » by gerrit4 » Tue Jan 31, 2023 6:33 pm

I personally think this means that Jones made a legit offer for OG last night, good enough for us to accept, and Masai is giving other teams a chance to outbid him. We could see a godfather offer from the Knicks.
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Post#76 » by ForeverTFC » Tue Jan 31, 2023 6:33 pm

OG being traded is going to make me feel some type of way man
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Post#77 » by ItsDanger » Tue Jan 31, 2023 6:36 pm

Rich Paul making moves. Masai needs to put his big boy pants on and show who's really in charge.

Or is it Team Klutch?
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Re: [Shams] - Raptors Now Taking Calls for OG 

Post#78 » by WuTang_CMB » Tue Jan 31, 2023 6:39 pm

WuTang_OG wrote:Going to hurt to lose OG but the timing might be now. I also think Nurse's comments last night was a bit of hint/inside track that OG was to get traded since he was shut down until deadline. Somethings up. Nurse was taken back and thought he was game to game IMO

If you can get a young player and 2 picks, I think you do it. His value is at its highest right now even though I'd much rather move Fred first.


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Re: [Shams] - Raptors Now Taking Calls for OG 

Post#79 » by JShuttlesworth » Tue Jan 31, 2023 6:41 pm

So we let Fred chuck it up for 2 years at the expense of OG's happiness?

Who would have thought our players don't like watching a midget chuck night after night

SMH. This roster has been so poorly managed since 2020. Blow the whole thing up.
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Post#80 » by Son Goku 25 » Tue Jan 31, 2023 6:41 pm

We gotta move 2 of FVV, OG, Trent and see what Pascals market is. I'd keep Pascal though if we can surround them with better shooters, explosive players and passers.

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