Pelicans Potentially Looking to Trade Ingram and not Interested in Bringing JV Back
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Poeltl for Herb Jones and a 2025 pick top 6 protected. They get a better center and we get a prospect and a pick.
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Thaddy wrote:Poeltl for Herb Jones and a 2025 pick top 6 protected. They get a better center and we get a prospect and a pick.
stay off the crack buddy.
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DonDoolie wrote:Thaddy wrote:Poeltl for Herb Jones and a 2025 pick top 6 protected. They get a better center and we get a prospect and a pick.
stay off the crack buddy.
I forgot Poeltl is a overpaid scrub and Herb Jones is a franchise tier prospect not a mid 20s role player. Even crazier is that I want a lottery pick on top of it, not a mid to late 20s pick
Maybe we can get Wiggins and a bag of chips for Poeltl. Might have to throw in a few future firsts too since Poeltl isn't playable at the end of games.
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DonDoolie wrote:Thaddy wrote:Poeltl for Herb Jones and a 2025 pick top 6 protected. They get a better center and we get a prospect and a pick.
stay off the crack buddy.
Poeltl for Herb Jones and 2 unprotected firsts. No need for any protections. Trading for Poeltl should be a privilege to any team. Hence why we should be receiving unprotected picks to compensate.
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If we can get him without giving up RJ SB or IQ, hell yeah why not. Would be a very nice fit imo. Plus hes still young and hes skilled / talented. With the right mix he could flourish.
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Honestly people saying no to Ingram are the same ones that said no to KD, no to Mitchell, to Gobert etc…
I think the acquisition cost for Ingram isn’t too high so worth taking a chance. The deal would probably cost Jakob and Brown as the key pieces. I think it’s worth the risk as we lack a legit alpha scorer. Maybe we bring back JV on a short 3 year deal. If there is a way to get Ingram with out putting in Jakob even better. As having the C depth with JV and Kelly would be key. However, I think Pel’s would insist on Jakob as they badly need a defensive Center
I think the acquisition cost for Ingram isn’t too high so worth taking a chance. The deal would probably cost Jakob and Brown as the key pieces. I think it’s worth the risk as we lack a legit alpha scorer. Maybe we bring back JV on a short 3 year deal. If there is a way to get Ingram with out putting in Jakob even better. As having the C depth with JV and Kelly would be key. However, I think Pel’s would insist on Jakob as they badly need a defensive Center
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He could be a buy low that ends up with a couple of all star appearances in the next few years or a one year rental or even worse an injured body taking up large chunk of cap space.
Both risk and reward are high on the guy, so what gets traded for him I think is what really makes the difference on whether you do it or not. Say Brown, Boucher and a first. Do you do that? What if there is a deal for brown that gives back a mid range first rounder? Which do you do?
Both risk and reward are high on the guy, so what gets traded for him I think is what really makes the difference on whether you do it or not. Say Brown, Boucher and a first. Do you do that? What if there is a deal for brown that gives back a mid range first rounder? Which do you do?
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now that we conveyed the pick, I'm against this unless extremely cheap asset-wise. Like Bruce Brown, McDaniels, and the Indy 1st. Even then we'd need to know he wants to extend.
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Thaddy wrote:DonDoolie wrote:Thaddy wrote:Poeltl for Herb Jones and a 2025 pick top 6 protected. They get a better center and we get a prospect and a pick.
stay off the crack buddy.
I forgot Poeltl is a overpaid scrub and Herb Jones is a franchise tier prospect not a mid 20s role player. Even crazier is that I want a lottery pick on top of it, not a mid to late 20s pick
Maybe we can get Wiggins and a bag of chips for Poeltl. Might have to throw in a few future firsts too since Poeltl isn't playable at the end of games.
He was right, stay off the crack.
Herb Jones is not a franchise tier prospect. Giving Poeltl up for him an a mid to late FRP is underwhelming.
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ItsDanger wrote:We just saw him in the playoffs as #1 option for Pelicans and he failed miserably.
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Maybe Dort and OKC’s defence is just that good haha.
I agree though, it’s a pass on Ingram. I think he would actually be a good fit but he’s too injury prone for my liking.
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Thaddy wrote:Poeltl for Herb Jones and a 2025 pick top 6 protected. They get a better center and we get a prospect and a pick.
Lol, Herb is not a prospect anymore. He was a starter on a playoff team and is going to get a ton of votes for All Defensive team. He also has one of the best contracts in the league.
Even if you switched the draft pick so that it's us giving them a top 6 protected 1st, they would laugh and hang up.
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Herb Jones is one of the most desirable players in the NBA today.
He is a long, lanky wing. Is just shy of 50/40/90 club. Plays stellar D. Makes $13/14/15m over next 3 seasons.
Forget the fact Poeltl doesn't fit next to Zion, no way Poeltl could fetch Jones and first(s).
He is a long, lanky wing. Is just shy of 50/40/90 club. Plays stellar D. Makes $13/14/15m over next 3 seasons.
Forget the fact Poeltl doesn't fit next to Zion, no way Poeltl could fetch Jones and first(s).
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I think we need to stop looking for quick fixes.
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No way the Pelicans give us Herb Jones for Poetl. Probably just a very late protected first rounder or two second rounders + cap filler.
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ArthurVandelay wrote:Herb Jones is one of the most desirable players in the NBA today.
He is a long, lanky wing. Is just shy of 50/40/90 club. Plays stellar D. Makes $13/14/15m over next 3 seasons.
Forget the fact Poeltl doesn't fit next to Zion, no way Poeltl could fetch Jones and first(s).
You are dreaming. He is a good roleplayer, but not a franchise player. His worth is solely based of what could be, not what he brings now. If the Pels want Poeltl, they are making a win now move, and Poeltl right now has a higher value as player than herb right now.
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Shakril wrote:ArthurVandelay wrote:Herb Jones is one of the most desirable players in the NBA today.
He is a long, lanky wing. Is just shy of 50/40/90 club. Plays stellar D. Makes $13/14/15m over next 3 seasons.
Forget the fact Poeltl doesn't fit next to Zion, no way Poeltl could fetch Jones and first(s).
You are dreaming. He is a good roleplayer, but not a franchise player. His worth is solely based of what could be, not what he brings now. If the Pels want Poeltl, they are making a win now move, and Poeltl right now has a higher value as player than herb right now.
No. You're dreaming. I'm rubber, you're glue.
Outside of legit superstars, Jones skillset is the most desired in the league. He's cut from the same cloth as OG.
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Thaddy wrote:DonDoolie wrote:Thaddy wrote:Poeltl for Herb Jones and a 2025 pick top 6 protected. They get a better center and we get a prospect and a pick.
stay off the crack buddy.
I forgot Poeltl is a overpaid scrub and Herb Jones is a franchise tier prospect not a mid 20s role player. Even crazier is that I want a lottery pick on top of it, not a mid to late 20s pick
Maybe we can get Wiggins and a bag of chips for Poeltl. Might have to throw in a few future firsts too since Poeltl isn't playable at the end of games.
Ya i dont thInk anyone knows the true value of draft picks.
Jakub is a VERY successful former 9th overall pick just entering his prime.
Just on paper isnt that worth an 8 - 12th overall pick plus other assets?
I honestly dont know, but it sure sounds like it!
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ArthurVandelay wrote:Shakril wrote:ArthurVandelay wrote:Herb Jones is one of the most desirable players in the NBA today.
He is a long, lanky wing. Is just shy of 50/40/90 club. Plays stellar D. Makes $13/14/15m over next 3 seasons.
Forget the fact Poeltl doesn't fit next to Zion, no way Poeltl could fetch Jones and first(s).
You are dreaming. He is a good roleplayer, but not a franchise player. His worth is solely based of what could be, not what he brings now. If the Pels want Poeltl, they are making a win now move, and Poeltl right now has a higher value as player than herb right now.
No. You're dreaming. I'm rubber, you're glue.
Outside of legit superstars, Jones skillset is the most desired in the league. He's cut from the same cloth as OG.
He's 15lbs away from actually being OG, but on a much better contract and not as injury prone.. If anyone looks up what opposing players say about him, it's eerily similar to what they said about OG in his early years.
Like I said, even if we offered Poeltl and a top 6 protected 1st, the Pelicans would decline in a nanosecond.
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ArthurVandelay wrote:Shakril wrote:ArthurVandelay wrote:Herb Jones is one of the most desirable players in the NBA today.
He is a long, lanky wing. Is just shy of 50/40/90 club. Plays stellar D. Makes $13/14/15m over next 3 seasons.
Forget the fact Poeltl doesn't fit next to Zion, no way Poeltl could fetch Jones and first(s).
You are dreaming. He is a good roleplayer, but not a franchise player. His worth is solely based of what could be, not what he brings now. If the Pels want Poeltl, they are making a win now move, and Poeltl right now has a higher value as player than herb right now.
No. You're dreaming. I'm rubber, you're glue.
Outside of legit superstars, Jones skillset is the most desired in the league. He's cut from the same cloth as OG.
Herb Jones right now, is playing a supporting role, he does it well i might add, but he is nowhere near, where you believe he is.
What you do right now is overvalueing one Player, while undervalueing the other Player.
Yes Herb has room to grow, but as of now, he is not a franchise player. He is one of many good young prospects, but not THE propspect you claim.
To further the argument: The NBA slowly shifts back to a Center Dominated league. Outside of the established Superstars, Jokic, Embid, Giannis, there is Chet and Victor upcoming and maybe Zion who turns a corner. And thats only the top Players.
Means, that Defensive minded center will be in demand, to play against those Monsters. That alone increases Poeltls value, who just entered his prime.
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MiamiSPX wrote:ArthurVandelay wrote:Shakril wrote:
You are dreaming. He is a good roleplayer, but not a franchise player. His worth is solely based of what could be, not what he brings now. If the Pels want Poeltl, they are making a win now move, and Poeltl right now has a higher value as player than herb right now.
No. You're dreaming. I'm rubber, you're glue.
Outside of legit superstars, Jones skillset is the most desired in the league. He's cut from the same cloth as OG.
He's 15lbs away from actually being OG, but on a much better contract and not as injury prone.. If anyone looks up what opposing players say about him, it's eerily similar to what they said about OG in his early years.
Like I said, even if we offered Poeltl and a top 6 protected 1st, the Pelicans would decline in a nanosecond.
Depends on what there plans are. If the want to win now, the will have to give up Herb. If they are building for the future, of course they keep him. My Problem is not if the Pels make this trade or not, but the sheer misjudgment of the qualities of Players is just mindblowing.