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Re: Raptors attempting to trade up in the draft 

Post#61 » by Tor_Raps » Wed Jun 12, 2024 5:23 pm

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OakleyDokely wrote:This is reported before every draft and every draft the Raps just make their picks.

Fool me once, shame on you...Fool me...you can't get fooled again.


"Raps frantically trying to move up to select Giannis"

"Raps frantically trying to move up to select SGA"

*Masai doesn't want to part with assets such as Patrick Patterson, Amir Johnson, or any second rounders*

Heard this story 1 too many times


LOL for real. If Masai really wanted those guys then he would have met the required price. You see teams do it every draft so Masai clearly didn't care that much about them lol.
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Re: Raptors attempting to trade up in the draft 

Post#62 » by Basketball_Jones » Wed Jun 12, 2024 5:28 pm

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WuTang_OG wrote:Masai has only made 1 draft day deal in 11 drafts as Raps exec and that was the masterclass Vascquez for Powell and OG deal


Apparently he didn’t learn his lesson and skipped out on fleecing the Bucks again in a FVV for Grayson + low 1st trade


I’m still pissed about that one lol. I’m not sure when the pick would even convey but Allen is a nice depth piece, though kind of older player.
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Re: Raptors attempting to trade up in the draft 

Post#63 » by manjusaka » Wed Jun 12, 2024 5:35 pm

Rocket was asking for Mikal Bridges for the 3rd pick. I just don’t see any team in the lottery actually moving out.
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Re: Raptors attempting to trade up in the draft 

Post#64 » by Potential » Wed Jun 12, 2024 5:40 pm

What future star players are worth trading down for?
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Re: Raptors attempting to trade up in the draft 

Post#65 » by Tor_Raps » Wed Jun 12, 2024 5:43 pm

This franchise just looks like a clown show man. That lawsuit with the Knicks literally switched our franchises around lol.
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Re: Raptors attempting to trade up in the draft 

Post#66 » by Psubs » Wed Jun 12, 2024 5:45 pm

PhilBlackson wrote:I could be wrong but I DON'T think it's for Edey.

We have a solid enough big man rotation, on the otherhand go listen to Masai's presser again, he states multiple times that a BIGGER wing is THE top of his list to improve the roster which imo means we're targeting...

TIDJANE SALUAN.

We've already scouted him on multiple occasions, his physical profile screams Masai prototype and he's the one kid you heard a couple weeks ago has skyrocketed up draft boards and many believe he's going top 10. POR hired Schmidtz and since then have taken on higher upside prospects (ie/ Shaedon & Scoot), they also already have 2 decent bigmen in place (Ayton, RGIII). They likely want to take a safer prospect with their own pick then secure Tidj to develop long term when they inevitably try to move Grant who doesn't fit the timeline of their young guys.

CLE is the only one who I don't think is in that race and is actually just trying to move up to secure a better PG prospect ie/ Dillingham or McCain, so that they can move on from Garland.


It's reported now so a late riser. It's gotta be Carlton Carrington, who rose from mid 2nd to early 2nd/late 1st. After the combine, he's potentially leaped ahead of #19. :nod:

Portland needs players and Boucher played at Oregon. :D

#14 and Malcolm Brogdon for #19, Chris Boucher and Ochai Agbaji.

#14 Carlton Carrington (play a lot with the 905 in his 1st season)

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Re: Raptors attempting to trade up in the draft 

Post#67 » by Grew » Wed Jun 12, 2024 5:50 pm

Well if history has anything to say about it. The price will be to high and masai won't pull the trigger. The player we were trying to trade up for will become at worst a future MVP candidate.
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Re: Raptors attempting to trade up in the draft 

Post#68 » by NinjaBro » Wed Jun 12, 2024 5:52 pm

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The Toronto Raptors have traded Jakob Poeltl and a lightly protected 2027 2nd to Memphis for the 9th pick, Brandon Clarke, and Zaire Williams



Nooooo! IMPOSIMBRU!!!


Where is this from? Or are you trolling?
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Re: Raptors attempting to trade up in the draft 

Post#69 » by tecumseh18 » Wed Jun 12, 2024 5:54 pm

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Read on Twitter


This excites me because Masai has attempted to trade up in the draft before for the likes of Giannis and SGA.


In those draft years, we didn't have a FRP to give back. Not many teams want to trade completely out of the draft. So there might actually be a chance of something happening this time.

I'm also saying Edey. Not many of these scrubs are worth giving up assets for. At least with Edey, you kinda know what you're getting.
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Re: Raptors attempting to trade up in the draft 

Post#70 » by Duffman100 » Wed Jun 12, 2024 5:55 pm

Getting the #9 for Poeltl would be hilarious. We drop 1 pick for year and a half of Poeltl.
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Re: Raptors attempting to trade up in the draft 

Post#71 » by TimeForChange » Wed Jun 12, 2024 5:58 pm

There is absolutely no truth to this rumour :lol:

This is a team in the lottery putting this out there to increase the value of their pick. No one wants to move up in the draft. Half the teams are trying to trade out completely.
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Re: Raptors attempting to trade up in the draft 

Post#72 » by tecumseh18 » Wed Jun 12, 2024 5:58 pm

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XTC wrote:
OakleyDokely wrote:This is reported before every draft and every draft the Raps just make their picks.

Fool me once, shame on you...Fool me...you can't get fooled again.


"Raps frantically trying to move up to select Giannis"

"Raps frantically trying to move up to select SGA"

*Masai doesn't want to part with assets such as Patrick Patterson, Amir Johnson, or any second rounders*

Heard this story 1 too many times


LOL for real. If Masai really wanted those guys then he would have met the required price. You see teams do it every draft so Masai clearly didn't care that much about them lol.


We didn't have ANY first round picks to trade in those seasons. Not many so-so or lottery teams are willing to trade out of the lottery.
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Re: Raptors attempting to trade up in the draft 

Post#73 » by Psubs » Wed Jun 12, 2024 5:59 pm

https://www.si.com/college/pittsburgh/basketball/posts/76ers-select-pitt-panthers-bub-carrington-espn-mock-draft

Woo picked Carrington to go to the Philadelphia 76ers in the First Round with the No. 16 overall pick.

Carrington showed off his shooting prowess throughout those drills as well. He shot 21-for-30, 70%, off the dribble, 19-for-25, 76.0%, side-by-side and 20-for-25, 80%, on spot up shooting, all best marks at the combine. He also shot 13-for-25, 52.0%, in the 3-point star drill, tied for eighth best.


https://www.si.com/nba/draft/newsfeed/why-carlton-carrington-could-be-a-breakout-star-as-a-rookie-01j01nf63n6z

Some destinations that make sense for Carrington are the Miami Heat (Pick 15), New Orleans (Pick 17), and Toronto (Pick 19).
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Re: Raptors attempting to trade up in the draft 

Post#74 » by islandboy53 » Wed Jun 12, 2024 6:01 pm

So, if we assume the Raptors are looking at Brown plus 19, who are they targeting?

Sacramento makes sense, with the question being primarily what is coming back? Huerter and Vezenkov and switching 13 for 19 leaves them room under the tax to sign Monk or use the full NTMLE in the very likely event he moves elsewhere.
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Re: Raptors attempting to trade up in the draft 

Post#75 » by ill-Will03 » Wed Jun 12, 2024 6:03 pm

Tor_Raps wrote:This franchise just looks like a clown show man. That lawsuit with the Knicks literally switched our franchises around lol.



Because they are trying to move up in the draft?

Let’s say we trade with Memphis for the 9th pick and Jakob. Wouldn’t that make the Jakob trade a wash? If we essentially get back out FRP?
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Re: Raptors attempting to trade up in the draft 

Post#76 » by Tor_Raps » Wed Jun 12, 2024 6:03 pm

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Tor_Raps wrote:
XTC wrote:
"Raps frantically trying to move up to select Giannis"

"Raps frantically trying to move up to select SGA"

*Masai doesn't want to part with assets such as Patrick Patterson, Amir Johnson, or any second rounders*

Heard this story 1 too many times


LOL for real. If Masai really wanted those guys then he would have met the required price. You see teams do it every draft so Masai clearly didn't care that much about them lol.


We didn't have ANY first round picks to trade in those seasons. Not many so-so or lottery teams are willing to trade out of the lottery.


Are you sure we didn't have ANY 1st Rounders to trade? Seems made up since i dont recall us trading more than 1 1st rounder at a time lol.

Like I said, if you truly wanted those players then you meet the damn price. Teams trade down or out of the draft almost every year. Raptors in those days actually had tons of assets available at their disposal unlike now where the roster is filled with scrubs.
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Re: Raptors attempting to trade up in the draft 

Post#77 » by tecumseh18 » Wed Jun 12, 2024 6:05 pm

Duffman100 wrote:Getting the #9 for Poeltl would be hilarious. We drop 1 pick for year and a half of Poeltl.


Also gave up a couple of seconds, which for a lottery team heading into the stronger 2025 and 2026 drafts is not nothing.

Although obviously the wrong move in retrospect, I still think it was worth the gamble to see how that core played with a legit C. But this season it's time to tank, and Poeltl helps us win games. He's gone, if not by this draft then by the trade deadline at the latest. And we'll get value for him.
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Re: Raptors attempting to trade up in the draft 

Post#78 » by Tor_Raps » Wed Jun 12, 2024 6:10 pm

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Tor_Raps wrote:This franchise just looks like a clown show man. That lawsuit with the Knicks literally switched our franchises around lol.



Because they are trying to move up in the draft?

Let’s say we trade with Memphis for the 9th pick and Jakob. Wouldn’t that make the Jakob trade a wash? If we essentially get back out FRP?


Because all we've heard is that the Raptors want nothing to do with this draft. Then consider we just finished a season tanking for the Spurs. Then we traded a 1st round pick for a guy we could have signed this offseason (Olynyk) and a prospect that looked like a complete scrub (Ochai). All these things could have helped us move up or have that pick from the onset.

Masai used to kick ass on trades and now we're hoping to call it a wash as our best case scenario if we can trade Poeltl for the 9th pick. It's just depressing being a Raptor fan lately, that's all lol
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Re: Raptors attempting to trade up in the draft 

Post#79 » by ill-Will03 » Wed Jun 12, 2024 6:11 pm

I don’t get some of you guys. All we heard around here was how we shouldn’t have done the the Jakob trade which I agree with in hindsight ofc. But now that we’re trying to trade him for 1 pick higher it’s somehow a bad thing too? Some people will never be satisfied no matter the results
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Post#80 » by Psubs » Wed Jun 12, 2024 6:18 pm

ill-Will03 wrote:I don’t get some of you guys. All we heard around here was how we shouldn’t have done the the Jakob trade which I agree with in hindsight ofc. But now that we’re trying to trade him for 1 pick higher it’s somehow a bad thing too? Some people will never be satisfied no matter the results


I would 10% trade him for #9 and gamble with Holland or Buzelis. Buzelis was at one point on some mocks as #1 pick with Holland and Cody Williams. Also Risacher too. Sarr I guess impressed this year.

Buzelis didn't do poorly this year and was tested way more hoppy than expected. I think he's a way better option than Salaun.

Buzelis could be a Paolo Banchero 2.0. Banchero shoots 45/34/73 and is an allstar because he's the number 1 option.

Trade Poeltl to Memphis for #9 and Brandon Clarke. Clingan, Holland and Castle would have to be drafted in the top 8 to push Buzelis to #9.
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