What if Giannis chooses and Toronto on short list - Does this change Conversation?

[Scase]

People, get it together. There is no trade for Giannis without Scottie going the other way, unless Masai has some dirt on Horst, or he's on the take like Nico was or something.

Stop thinking we can come out after that trade with our best player/asset, it's just insanity.

It just gets annoying how people put together fantasy trades on this board with no level of thought. You CANNOT get Giannis without sending Barnes the other way. The whole point of the deal for Milwaukee would be to get a high level young talent back. Otherwise they'd just trade with someone who is offering that (Green from Houston even though I don't rate him, etc.)

I don't think they get both Barnes and #9. I think they get one or the other.

MVP/DPOY player in his prime with multiple years left on his contract, go take a look at players like Spida/Gobert and their returns. Neither of which are remotely as good as Giannis.

While it's not guaranteed they get both, because naturally what else is in the package matters, but it's not like it would be a shocker if they got both. That said, if I had to hedge my bets on one or the other, they'd be getting Scottie.

Trading Giannis is going into pure rebuild mode, and since they have no picks, they will prioritize young high end prospects and picks, they have no incentive to not do that. The only other possible result is to try and pivot and get players back that will prevent them from being bottom of the league bad, and still watchable to basically tread water until they are back within the years when they have picks (like the Nets tried), and then tear it down then. So maybe trading giannis for a TON of futures to align with that timeline, but I think that is the less likely option.

[Pointgod]

because the hypothetical should be rooted in some sort of reality. It's not unrealistic that he would want to come to Toronto, that's a perfectly fine hypothetical and it's good to discuss what a fair offer would be.

Imagine what to do if he says he only wants to come to Toronto AND wants the team to keep scottie is just dumb. Why stop there? What is he says that he only wants the Raptors to trade second round picks? Might as well discuss what we should do if the NBA decides to move all their games to Mars next year.

So it’s not unrealistic that Giannis would wanna come to Toronto, but it’s stupid to think Giannis would wanna play with Scottie

Jesus man, what mental gymnastics are you pulling off here?

Long story short, we cannot offer the best deal. The only way Giannis comes here is if he picks us himself and Milwaukee does him a solid and just does it. That’s already unrealistic.

I thought about this some more and if giannis chooses a team I don't think the Bucks would have much choice.

Suppose he picks Houston. But the spurs and OKC offer better packages...scotty's agent simply sends the message that he won't extend with them next summer. That will drastically reduce the offers from spurs/okc because they aren't gonna trade chet/jdub/#2/Castle/multiple picks for a 2 year rental.

If he had 3 years left on his contract it would matter less. 4 years and it wouldn't matter at all.

But 2 years? All of a sudden all those assets sound like a lot.

These trade packages are gonna be so big....they would only make sense under the assumption he'll sign an extension next summer. And that's where his leverage comes into play.

Giannis could do the bucks a solid by giving them a 3 team shortlist. Then they will have a bargaining war. But he also has the power to play hardball and insist on a single team. He doesn't seem the type to do that though.

This whole hypothetical is dumb but if the Raptors don’t offer up Scottie in a Giannis trade, then the Bucks just tell Giannis that the Raptors aren’t serious and we can revisit this at the deadline or they just trade him for one of the packages that are infinitely better than the Raptors trade offer with no Scottie. The #9 pick, Barrett and Quickley doesn’t even begin to make sense for Giannis.

The Bucks don’t have their own picks so they can’t tank. The would be much better taking a pick heavy package from OKC, Houston or San Antonio and leveraging some of those to get their own picks back from New Orleans or Portland.

[YogurtProducer]

It just gets annoying how people put together fantasy trades on this board with no level of thought. You CANNOT get Giannis without sending Barnes the other way. The whole point of the deal for Milwaukee would be to get a high level young talent back. Otherwise they'd just trade with someone who is offering that (Green from Houston even though I don't rate him, etc.)

I don't think they get both Barnes and #9. I think they get one or the other.

MVP/DPOY player in his prime with multiple years left on his contract, go take a look at players like Spida/Gobert and their returns. Neither of which are remotely as good as Giannis.

While it's not guaranteed they get both, because naturally what else is in the package matters, but it's not like it would be a shocker if they got both. That said, if I had to hedge my bets on one or the other, they'd be getting Scottie.

Trading Giannis is going into pure rebuild mode, and since they have no picks, they will prioritize young high end prospects and picks, they have no incentive to not do that. The only other possible result is to try and pivot and get players back that will prevent them from being bottom of the league bad, and still watchable to basically tread water until they are back within the years when they have picks (like the Nets tried), and then tear it down then. So maybe trading giannis for a TON of futures to align with that timeline, but I think that is the less likely option.

Different league then. New rules on the apron have changed things a bit.

Go look what KAT was moved for.

[HangTime]

So it’s not unrealistic that Giannis would wanna come to Toronto, but it’s stupid to think Giannis would wanna play with Scottie

Jesus man, what mental gymnastics are you pulling off here?

Long story short, we cannot offer the best deal. The only way Giannis comes here is if he picks us himself and Milwaukee does him a solid and just does it. That’s already unrealistic.

I thought about this some more and if giannis chooses a team I don't think the Bucks would have much choice.

Suppose he picks Houston. But the spurs and OKC offer better packages...scotty's agent simply sends the message that he won't extend with them next summer. That will drastically reduce the offers from spurs/okc because they aren't gonna trade chet/jdub/#2/Castle/multiple picks for a 2 year rental.

If he had 3 years left on his contract it would matter less. 4 years and it wouldn't matter at all.

But 2 years? All of a sudden all those assets sound like a lot.

These trade packages are gonna be so big....they would only make sense under the assumption he'll sign an extension next summer. And that's where his leverage comes into play.

Giannis could do the bucks a solid by giving them a 3 team shortlist. Then they will have a bargaining war. But he also has the power to play hardball and insist on a single team. He doesn't seem the type to do that though.

This whole hypothetical is dumb but if the Raptors don’t offer up Scottie in a Giannis trade, then the Bucks just tell Giannis that the Raptors aren’t serious and we can revisit this at the deadline or they just trade him for one of the packages that are infinitely better than the Raptors trade offer with no Scottie. The #9 pick, Barrett and Quickley doesn’t even begin to make sense for Giannis.

The Bucks don’t have their own picks so they can’t tank. The would be much better taking a pick heavy package from OKC, Houston or San Antonio and leveraging some of those to get their own picks back from New Orleans or Portland.

How about RJ, Quickley, Ochai, Gradey, #9, and additional picks for Giannis and Kuzama's contract

I think Portland showed interest in Gradey before his rookie year, in the Lillard trade package.

Maybe Gradey, #9, and future 1st, can help them move up with Philly for #3.

I think RJ on Portland could be interesting, his contract is a shorter commitment as well if things go sideways. Draw in some west coast Canadian fans with Sharpe and RJ.

I'm going to see if I can come up with 4 team deal.

[JB7]

I thought about this some more and if giannis chooses a team I don't think the Bucks would have much choice.

Suppose he picks Houston. But the spurs and OKC offer better packages...scotty's agent simply sends the message that he won't extend with them next summer. That will drastically reduce the offers from spurs/okc because they aren't gonna trade chet/jdub/#2/Castle/multiple picks for a 2 year rental.

If he had 3 years left on his contract it would matter less. 4 years and it wouldn't matter at all.

But 2 years? All of a sudden all those assets sound like a lot.

These trade packages are gonna be so big....they would only make sense under the assumption he'll sign an extension next summer. And that's where his leverage comes into play.

Giannis could do the bucks a solid by giving them a 3 team shortlist. Then they will have a bargaining war. But he also has the power to play hardball and insist on a single team. He doesn't seem the type to do that though.

This whole hypothetical is dumb but if the Raptors don’t offer up Scottie in a Giannis trade, then the Bucks just tell Giannis that the Raptors aren’t serious and we can revisit this at the deadline or they just trade him for one of the packages that are infinitely better than the Raptors trade offer with no Scottie. The #9 pick, Barrett and Quickley doesn’t even begin to make sense for Giannis.

The Bucks don’t have their own picks so they can’t tank. The would be much better taking a pick heavy package from OKC, Houston or San Antonio and leveraging some of those to get their own picks back from New Orleans or Portland.

How about RJ, Quickley, Ochai, Gradey, #9, and additional picks for Giannis and Kuzama's contract

I think Portland showed interest in Gradey before his rookie year, in the Lillard trade package.

Maybe Gradey, #9, and future 1st, can help them move up with Philly for #3.

I think RJ on Portland could be interesting, his contract is a shorter commitment as well if things go sideways. Draw in some west coast Canadian fans with Sharpe and RJ.

I'm going to see if I can come up with 4 team deal.

I think the deal that works both financially, and from a talent perspective for the Bucks is Giannis for Barnes, Dick, Agbaji, 9th pick and one more pick (probably 2027 FRP).

Leaves Raps with their starting lineup intact, just swapping Barnes for Giannis, and they have an affordable bench of Mogbo, Battle, Walter and Shead, to offset the expensive starting lineup.

In terms of rotations, at all times they have at least 2 of 4 players (Giannis, BI, RJ, IQ) on the floor.

It also rebuilds the Bucks lineup. They can draft Maluach or Queen at 9 for their future C, Barnes PF, Dick SF, Agbaji SG, and then they just need to look for a new PG. In the interim, they could resign Lopez to groom the young C, sign Brogdon until Dame returns. And if Dame can prove he is still effective, they could move him for a younger PG.

[mdenny]

So it’s not unrealistic that Giannis would wanna come to Toronto, but it’s stupid to think Giannis would wanna play with Scottie

Jesus man, what mental gymnastics are you pulling off here?

Long story short, we cannot offer the best deal. The only way Giannis comes here is if he picks us himself and Milwaukee does him a solid and just does it. That’s already unrealistic.

I thought about this some more and if giannis chooses a team I don't think the Bucks would have much choice.

Suppose he picks Houston. But the spurs and OKC offer better packages...scotty's agent simply sends the message that he won't extend with them next summer. That will drastically reduce the offers from spurs/okc because they aren't gonna trade chet/jdub/#2/Castle/multiple picks for a 2 year rental.

If he had 3 years left on his contract it would matter less. 4 years and it wouldn't matter at all.

But 2 years? All of a sudden all those assets sound like a lot.

These trade packages are gonna be so big....they would only make sense under the assumption he'll sign an extension next summer. And that's where his leverage comes into play.

Giannis could do the bucks a solid by giving them a 3 team shortlist. Then they will have a bargaining war. But he also has the power to play hardball and insist on a single team. He doesn't seem the type to do that though.

This whole hypothetical is dumb but if the Raptors don’t offer up Scottie in a Giannis trade, then the Bucks just tell Giannis that the Raptors aren’t serious and we can revisit this at the deadline or they just trade him for one of the packages that are infinitely better than the Raptors trade offer with no Scottie. The #9 pick, Barrett and Quickley doesn’t even begin to make sense for Giannis.

The Bucks don’t have their own picks so they can’t tank. The would be much better taking a pick heavy package from OKC, Houston or San Antonio and leveraging some of those to get their own picks back from New Orleans or Portland.

I agree with you on that part. Scotty and #9 would be going the other way. But my main point is that Giannis has alot of leverage in choosing where he goes. This doesn't mean the bucks will have to take any package the selected team offers.

If giannis chooses a team....it's an indication he will extend with them next summer. No team will offer the big package without being on Giannis' shortlist.

I doubt it's true....but if Giannis specifies it must be an Eastern team.....that bodes REALLY well for us. It means OKC/spurs/rockets will NOT put together the package they are capable of (because giannis would be a 2 year rental).

[ForeverTFC]

I don't think they get both Barnes and #9. I think they get one or the other.

MVP/DPOY player in his prime with multiple years left on his contract, go take a look at players like Spida/Gobert and their returns. Neither of which are remotely as good as Giannis.

While it's not guaranteed they get both, because naturally what else is in the package matters, but it's not like it would be a shocker if they got both. That said, if I had to hedge my bets on one or the other, they'd be getting Scottie.

Trading Giannis is going into pure rebuild mode, and since they have no picks, they will prioritize young high end prospects and picks, they have no incentive to not do that. The only other possible result is to try and pivot and get players back that will prevent them from being bottom of the league bad, and still watchable to basically tread water until they are back within the years when they have picks (like the Nets tried), and then tear it down then. So maybe trading giannis for a TON of futures to align with that timeline, but I think that is the less likely option.

Different league then. New rules on the apron have changed things a bit.

Go look what KAT was moved for.

KAT is in the running for the worst contract in the league and is a flawed player. Plus the Wolves were looking for potential cap relief when they did that move.

In most situations, you're right. But I don't think this is the case for Giannis. He's a top 4 player in the league (many argue 2nd only to Jokic) and, while on the backend of it, still in his prime. I agree with Scase; if we do hold on to either Scottie OR our 1st this year, it would be a massive robbery by Masai.

[Pointgod]

I thought about this some more and if giannis chooses a team I don't think the Bucks would have much choice.

Suppose he picks Houston. But the spurs and OKC offer better packages...scotty's agent simply sends the message that he won't extend with them next summer. That will drastically reduce the offers from spurs/okc because they aren't gonna trade chet/jdub/#2/Castle/multiple picks for a 2 year rental.

If he had 3 years left on his contract it would matter less. 4 years and it wouldn't matter at all.

But 2 years? All of a sudden all those assets sound like a lot.

These trade packages are gonna be so big....they would only make sense under the assumption he'll sign an extension next summer. And that's where his leverage comes into play.

Giannis could do the bucks a solid by giving them a 3 team shortlist. Then they will have a bargaining war. But he also has the power to play hardball and insist on a single team. He doesn't seem the type to do that though.

This whole hypothetical is dumb but if the Raptors don’t offer up Scottie in a Giannis trade, then the Bucks just tell Giannis that the Raptors aren’t serious and we can revisit this at the deadline or they just trade him for one of the packages that are infinitely better than the Raptors trade offer with no Scottie. The #9 pick, Barrett and Quickley doesn’t even begin to make sense for Giannis.

The Bucks don’t have their own picks so they can’t tank. The would be much better taking a pick heavy package from OKC, Houston or San Antonio and leveraging some of those to get their own picks back from New Orleans or Portland.

I agree with you on that part. Scotty and #9 would be going the other way. But my main point is that Giannis has alot of leverage in choosing where he goes. This doesn't mean the bucks will have to take any package the selected team offers.

If giannis chooses a team....it's an indication he will extend with them next summer. No team will offer the big package without being on Giannis' shortlist.

I doubt it's true....but if Giannis specifies it must be an Eastern team.....that bodes REALLY well for us. It means OKC/spurs/rockets will NOT put together the package they are capable of (because giannis would be a 2 year rental).

Here’s where I disagree with you. There are lots of teams that could offer a better package than Toronto’s best offer without Barnes for 2 years to convince Giannis to resign. Jimmy Butler tried to play hard ball to get to Phoenix and he ended up going in Golden State. Toronto’s package without Barnes is pretty weak for a player of Giannis’ caliber.

[mdenny]

This whole hypothetical is dumb but if the Raptors don’t offer up Scottie in a Giannis trade, then the Bucks just tell Giannis that the Raptors aren’t serious and we can revisit this at the deadline or they just trade him for one of the packages that are infinitely better than the Raptors trade offer with no Scottie. The #9 pick, Barrett and Quickley doesn’t even begin to make sense for Giannis.

The Bucks don’t have their own picks so they can’t tank. The would be much better taking a pick heavy package from OKC, Houston or San Antonio and leveraging some of those to get their own picks back from New Orleans or Portland.

I agree with you on that part. Scotty and #9 would be going the other way. But my main point is that Giannis has alot of leverage in choosing where he goes. This doesn't mean the bucks will have to take any package the selected team offers.

If giannis chooses a team....it's an indication he will extend with them next summer. No team will offer the big package without being on Giannis' shortlist.

I doubt it's true....but if Giannis specifies it must be an Eastern team.....that bodes REALLY well for us. It means OKC/spurs/rockets will NOT put together the package they are capable of (because giannis would be a 2 year rental).

Here’s where I disagree with you. There are lots of teams that could offer a better package than Toronto’s best offer without Barnes for 2 years to convince Giannis to resign. Jimmy Butler tried to play hard ball to get to Phoenix and he ended up going in Golden State. Toronto’s package without Barnes is pretty weak for a player of Giannis’ caliber.

Is it possible you are replying in the wrong thread or to the wrong person? I have never said anything about toronto's package not including Barnes. Butler was different because he was an expiring and the return package was relatively small.

There's gonna be two different type packages a team like OKC would trade for Giannis:

1. The one where they are named to his shortlist (indicating he will extend next summer): something like Chet, IH, multiple picks

2 The one they'd offer if they were specifically NOT included in his shortlist (2 year rental): no chet, less picks.

This is why it DEFINITELY changes the conversation if Giannis gives the bucks a shortlist of say toronto, Brooklyn, Orlando (wants to stay in the east). Effectively, we'd only be bargaining with teams on the shortlist and don't have to worry about the packages that the spurs, thunder can concoct. If giannis still had 4 years left on his contract....it wouldn't matter if he gave them a shortlist. Bucks could simply go with the highest bidder. Giannis would have no leverage.

It's really our only hope.

But to address your point....even if giannis gave the bucks a shortlist of Orlando, Brooklyn, Toronto....I agree with you that Barnes is still gonna be necessary to include.

[isyed]

I doubt we are offering anything right now. With two years left we will likely take a backseat and let the other teams fight it out. Wait till next summer and if the giannis trade does nothing then we swoop in to grab giannis.

By then we hopefully get our young guys to improve and play better. Barnes becomes a true star with Ingram. Maybe dock starts putting it together and RJ improves his fee throw and defense.

A one year rental makes a lot more sense especially once we've made the playoffs.

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[Appostis]

If this year's pick was top 2..maybe even 3 you might have a chance to make a trade package without Barnes.

With 9th pick being the best pick in the package they can offer.. can't see it happening. If they are willing..you take it and run but let's be honest with ourselves this is not 2k.

[TheRaptor!]

Be realistic

If you were Giannis would you want to go to the West for that blood bath or stay in the East with Knicks and Pacers stopping you from reaching the finals? Cavs shown they are frauds, Boston out for a year

Bucks will have to do him right and not trade him to a bottom feeder, considering only teams in the East, who are better trade chips than Scottie? Mobley and Franz and thats about it.

[Clutch0z24]

Be realistic

If you were Giannis would you want to go to the West for that blood bath or stay in the East with Knicks and Pacers stopping you from reaching the finals? Cavs shown they are frauds, Boston out for a year

Bucks will have to do him right and not trade him to a bottom feeder, considering only teams in the East, who are better trade chips than Scottie? Mobley and Franz and thats about it.

I think if he wants just an East team he might just choose Knicks....since he tweeted a while ago his fav city is New York......Question would be what will the Knicks offer since they do not have many draft picks to trade....Would Knicks really offer up OG+Bridges? Prolly gonna be the asking price....Or he goes to Nets to build his own thing there...

[Landomar]

Orlando, Brooklyn, and Toronto makes sense as a shortlist if Giannis wants to stay in the East.

Brooklyn could offer Claxton and the most draft picks. They also could trade for him before the draft. The roster would be a relatively blank slate with Giannis, Cam Johnson, and cap space.

Orlando could offer Wagner, Black, Howard, and draft picks. Lineup would be Giannis, Banchero, Carter, KCP, Suggs, with good depth.

Toronto could offer Barnes, Dick, Agbaji, and draft picks. Lineup would be Giannis, Ingram, Poeltl, Barrett, and Quicley.

All these options look reasonable to me. Will be interesting to see what happens.

[ash_k]

Orlando, Brooklyn, and Toronto makes sense as a shortlist if Giannis wants to stay in the East.

Brooklyn could offer Claxton and the most draft picks. They also could trade for him before the draft. The roster would be a relatively blank slate with Giannis, Cam Johnson, and cap space.

Orlando could offer Wagner, Black, Howard, and draft picks. Lineup would be Giannis, Banchero, Carter, KCP, Suggs, with good depth.

Toronto could offer Barnes, Dick, Agbaji, and draft picks. Lineup would be Giannis, Ingram, Poeltl, Barrett, and Quicley.

All these options look reasonable to me. Will be interesting to see what happens.

If I am Giannis i rather play with BI as my closer. (No bias).
BI looked like the next great, in the playoffs, against the Suns (against OKC, he had just come back from an injury)

[mtcan]

Orlando, Brooklyn, and Toronto makes sense as a shortlist if Giannis wants to stay in the East.

Brooklyn could offer Claxton and the most draft picks. They also could trade for him before the draft. The roster would be a relatively blank slate with Giannis, Cam Johnson, and cap space.

Orlando could offer Wagner, Black, Howard, and draft picks. Lineup would be Giannis, Banchero, Carter, KCP, Suggs, with good depth.

Toronto could offer Barnes, Dick, Agbaji, and draft picks. Lineup would be Giannis, Ingram, Poeltl, Barrett, and Quicley.

All these options look reasonable to me. Will be interesting to see what happens.

If I am Giannis i rather play with BI as my closer. (No bias).
BI looked like the next great, in the playoffs, against the Suns (against OKC, he had just come back from an injury)

Giannis will love playing with the 2 Cams and a whole lot of nothing and since they trade all their picks...there will be avenue to add other stars. It's possible but can't imagine Giannis being thrilled at that idea.

Orlando's biggest problem right now is that they are a poor shooting team. Let's just add another non-shooter and trade away the only other guy that could make a 3 pointer in Wagner. Nah...can't see it.

[mdenny]

If this year's pick was top 2..maybe even 3 you might have a chance to make a trade package without Barnes.

With 9th pick being the best pick in the package they can offer.. can't see it happening. If they are willing..you take it and run but let's be honest with ourselves this is not 2k.

If the Raptors had #2 they would still not be able to trade for giannis without Barnes.

It's crazy how casual basketball fans over-value draft picks.

Ingram is better than the expected outcome for the 3rd overall pick. But watch the tank ppl deny this. They are in love with the roulette wheel.

Watch how jaded they are about Brandon Ingram. Watch how overly optimistic they are about the top 5 prospects under the age of 20.

It's weird. They love young boys and they are jaded about grown men. Don't blame me for their weirdness. Doesn't exist in any other sports fan archetype except for basketball tanker trolls.

There ain't no sri lankan cricket fans that hate all the cricket players older than 23 lol. This is a very specific thing.

I blame video game simulators. They should have never given us video game general manager modes.

I think it's also the nature of basketball viewership. So ppl watch the game and see the ball either go down or out. And this becomes some sort of roulette wheel for ppl. So many ppl who have no understanding of basketball convince themselves of being able to understand the game because they familiarize themselves with stats that determine their fantasy league outcomes.

If you disagree with Ime udoka and believe that Fred vanvleet is a horrible basketball player....that's the best litmus test. If it confounds you why Fred isn't playing in China....you are a casual fan that doesn't understand the game.

Which makes sense why such casuals gravitate towards young prospects who have never proven they can play ball with real men.

So strange...there are not large vocal contingencies of hockey fans that claim veterans are sabotaging prospects lol. You don't see that with NFL or MLB fans either.

[YogurtProducer]

MVP/DPOY player in his prime with multiple years left on his contract, go take a look at players like Spida/Gobert and their returns. Neither of which are remotely as good as Giannis.

While it's not guaranteed they get both, because naturally what else is in the package matters, but it's not like it would be a shocker if they got both. That said, if I had to hedge my bets on one or the other, they'd be getting Scottie.

Trading Giannis is going into pure rebuild mode, and since they have no picks, they will prioritize young high end prospects and picks, they have no incentive to not do that. The only other possible result is to try and pivot and get players back that will prevent them from being bottom of the league bad, and still watchable to basically tread water until they are back within the years when they have picks (like the Nets tried), and then tear it down then. So maybe trading giannis for a TON of futures to align with that timeline, but I think that is the less likely option.

Different league then. New rules on the apron have changed things a bit.

Go look what KAT was moved for.

KAT is in the running for the worst contract in the league and is a flawed player. Plus the Wolves were looking for potential cap relief when they did that move.

In most situations, you're right. But I don't think this is the case for Giannis. He's a top 4 player in the league (many argue 2nd only to Jokic) and, while on the backend of it, still in his prime. I agree with Scase; if we do hold on to either Scottie OR our 1st this year, it would be a massive robbery by Masai.

KAT is not in running for the worst contract in the league

He’s not Giannis, but his trade package is just as if not more relevant as Rudy **** Goberts which happened before the changes to the tax and aprons occurred.

[duppyy]

If we are on the short list, it’s just for leverage as usual. Toronto teams always used as leverage.

[ash_k]

Orlando, Brooklyn, and Toronto makes sense as a shortlist if Giannis wants to stay in the East.

Brooklyn could offer Claxton and the most draft picks. They also could trade for him before the draft. The roster would be a relatively blank slate with Giannis, Cam Johnson, and cap space.

Orlando could offer Wagner, Black, Howard, and draft picks. Lineup would be Giannis, Banchero, Carter, KCP, Suggs, with good depth.

Toronto could offer Barnes, Dick, Agbaji, and draft picks. Lineup would be Giannis, Ingram, Poeltl, Barrett, and Quicley.

All these options look reasonable to me. Will be interesting to see what happens.

If I am Giannis i rather play with BI as my closer. (No bias).
BI looked like the next great, in the playoffs, against the Suns (against OKC, he had just come back from an injury)

Giannis will love playing with the 2 Cams and a whole lot of nothing and since they trade all their picks...there will be avenue to add other stars. It's possible but can't imagine Giannis being thrilled at that idea.

Orlando's biggest problem right now is that they are a poor shooting team. Let's just add another non-shooter and trade away the only other guy that could make a 3 pointer in Wagner. Nah...can't see it.

The Cams are just too poor of defenders for the fit, no?
The length of DPOY Giannis and BI (+ Yak quick fit), it would be elite defensively ( with the right coach)
I just can't see the same fit with Orlando and Banchero. But then again Pablo is 5 years younger than BI, Orlando could be a better fit in the long term