Official NBA General Discussion 2025-26 V1.0

[douggood]

So you can chuck the ball clear across the court -- WITHOUT THE BALL TOUCHING THE GROUND -- and force them to inbound where it goes into the stands?

you are shocked by this? balls going out of bounds happen 10-20 times a game. you inbound where it goes out of bound and the clock stops when it touches the floor or person out of bounds.
the only nitpick is the replay shows .6 on clock when the fan caught the ball. not the .3 the refs gave them.

[PushDaRock]

SGA pulling a Michael Ruffin there would have been something else

[Brinbe]

too many turnovers for the pups and bad games from ant/randle at the wrong time

[PushDaRock]

So you can chuck the ball clear across the court -- WITHOUT THE BALL TOUCHING THE GROUND -- and force them to inbound where it goes into the stands?

you are shocked by this? balls going out of bounds happen 10-20 times a game. you inbound where it goes out of bound and the clock stops when it touches the floor or person out of bounds.
the only nitpick is the replay shows .6 on clock when the fan caught the ball. not the .3 the refs gave them.

They took time off based on when it would have touched the ground, but I have no idea what the actual rule should be. I would think it should be similar to the ball going into the stands and clock stops once it touches anything.

[douggood]

So you can chuck the ball clear across the court -- WITHOUT THE BALL TOUCHING THE GROUND -- and force them to inbound where it goes into the stands?

you are shocked by this? balls going out of bounds happen 10-20 times a game. you inbound where it goes out of bound and the clock stops when it touches the floor or person out of bounds.
the only nitpick is the replay shows .6 on clock when the fan caught the ball. not the .3 the refs gave them.

They took time off based on when it would have touched the ground, but I have no idea what the actual rule should be. I would think it should be similar to the ball going into the stands and clock stops once it touches anything.

https://official.nba.com/rule-no-8-out-of-bounds-and-throw-in/

The ball is out-of-bounds when it touches a player who is out-of-bounds or any other person, the floor, or any object on, above or outside of a boundary or the supports or back of the backboard.

[PushDaRock]

you are shocked by this? balls going out of bounds happen 10-20 times a game. you inbound where it goes out of bound and the clock stops when it touches the floor or person out of bounds.
the only nitpick is the replay shows .6 on clock when the fan caught the ball. not the .3 the refs gave them.

They took time off based on when it would have touched the ground, but I have no idea what the actual rule should be. I would think it should be similar to the ball going into the stands and clock stops once it touches anything.

https://official.nba.com/rule-no-8-out-of-bounds-and-throw-in/

The ball is out-of-bounds when it touches a player who is out-of-bounds or any other person, the floor, or any object on, above or outside of a boundary or the supports or back of the backboard.

lol yeah they didn't follow their own written rules.

[mdenny]

I’m not sure how it’s a loophole? A foul after the bonus has always been free throws…

The awarded free throws were never intended to be a detriment. In this context....they are intentionally committed to act as a detriment to the foul teamed.

The solution is simple. When you are fouled after the penalty....you have the option of shooting 2 free throws or inbounding the ball.

I guess that's true because before the three point shot came along in 1980, there was no such detriment.

Absolutely. This a new loophole that has only been in practice for around 20 years. It started it college. Then it became sparingly used in the NBA. Now it's dominant in both.

The principle is very simple: a team should not be punished because the opposition is in the penalty.

The solution is simple. Any foul occurring after the penalty....the fouled team has an option of shooting 2 free throws or in-balling from any location of their choosing.

This adjustment continues to punish a team in the penalty rather than reward them.

This loophole strategy is literally destroying games. Making the most potentially jntense of finishes into procedural let-downs. We are now seeing it employed more and more. Only a matter of time til it impacts 2 finishes of every 7 game series.

What other sport does a team with a small lead have incentive to break the rules?

The hack a Shaq loophole is fine. I've never seen the last minute of a close game ruined because of the hack a Shaq strategy.

The other reason why my solution would be so effective....the ONLY time you'd ever see a team choose to inbound the ball instead of shoot 2 free throws is when they are down by 3 with less than 15 seconds left.

Edit: it's also notable that this rule ALSO takes the hack a Shaq strategy out. If you hack Shaq while in the penalty....shaq's team can choose between his 2 free throws and in-bounding the ball from under the opposition bucket.

This adjustment to the rules is screaming out to be implemented. I can't think of a SINGLE way it would otherwise impact the game.

[mdenny]

They took time off based on when it would have touched the ground, but I have no idea what the actual rule should be. I would think it should be similar to the ball going into the stands and clock stops once it touches anything.

https://official.nba.com/rule-no-8-out-of-bounds-and-throw-in/

The ball is out-of-bounds when it touches a player who is out-of-bounds or any other person, the floor, or any object on, above or outside of a boundary or the supports or back of the backboard.

lol yeah they didn't follow their own written rules.

It's an interesting wrinkle that I don't think any team has taken advantage of. At least ive never seen it.

A player looking to kill 4 seconds of clock could simply hoist the ball as high and far into the stands as possible. Technically speaking....the clock should not stop until the ball makes contact with an object or human.

I would imagine that a full strength hoist could last 4 to 5 seconds. I've never seen a player do this at any level of ball.

[Tripod]

The awarded free throws were never intended to be a detriment. In this context....they are intentionally committed to act as a detriment to the foul teamed.

The solution is simple. When you are fouled after the penalty....you have the option of shooting 2 free throws or inbounding the ball.

I guess that's true because before the three point shot came along in 1980, there was no such detriment.

Absolutely. This a new loophole that has only been in practice for around 20 years. It started it college. Then it became sparingly used in the NBA. Now it's dominant in both.

The principle is very simple: a team should not be punished because the opposition is in the penalty.

The solution is simple. Any foul occurring after the penalty....the fouled team has an option of shooting 2 free throws or in-balling from any location of their choosing.

This adjustment continues to punish a team in the penalty rather than reward them.

This loophole strategy is literally destroying games. Making the most potentially jntense of finishes into procedural let-downs. We are now seeing it employed more and more. Only a matter of time til it impacts 2 finishes of every 7 game series.

What other sport does a team with a small lead have incentive to break the rules?

The hack a Shaq loophole is fine. I've never seen the last minute of a close game ruined because of the hack a Shaq strategy.

The other reason why my solution would be so effective....the ONLY time you'd ever see a team choose to inbound the ball instead of shoot 2 free throws is when they are down by 3 with less than 15 seconds left.

Edit: it's also notable that this rule ALSO takes the hack a Shaq strategy out. If you hack Shaq while in the penalty....shaq's team can choose between his 2 free throws and in-bounding the ball from under the opposition bucket.

This adjustment to the rules is screaming out to be implemented. I can't think of a SINGLE way it would otherwise impact the game.

You think your solution would work but it won't.

All that would happen is the team would inbound the ball and the defending team would foul again just as they catch it. Then instead of shots, another inbound, another foul. Another inbound, another foul.

[Tripod]

https://official.nba.com/rule-no-8-out-of-bounds-and-throw-in/

lol yeah they didn't follow their own written rules.

It's an interesting wrinkle that I don't think any team has taken advantage of. At least ive never seen it.

A player looking to kill 4 seconds of clock could simply hoist the ball as high and far into the stands as possible. Technically speaking....the clock should not stop until the ball makes contact with an object or human.

I would imagine that a full strength hoist could last 4 to 5 seconds. I've never seen a player do this at any level of ball.

Not into the stands...but that one guy threw it way up in the air to kill clock and I believe it was Mo Pete who caught it and chucked a 3 and hit it.

[billy_hoyle]

I guess that's true because before the three point shot came along in 1980, there was no such detriment.

Absolutely. This a new loophole that has only been in practice for around 20 years. It started it college. Then it became sparingly used in the NBA. Now it's dominant in both.

The principle is very simple: a team should not be punished because the opposition is in the penalty.

The solution is simple. Any foul occurring after the penalty....the fouled team has an option of shooting 2 free throws or in-balling from any location of their choosing.

This adjustment continues to punish a team in the penalty rather than reward them.

This loophole strategy is literally destroying games. Making the most potentially jntense of finishes into procedural let-downs. We are now seeing it employed more and more. Only a matter of time til it impacts 2 finishes of every 7 game series.

What other sport does a team with a small lead have incentive to break the rules?

The hack a Shaq loophole is fine. I've never seen the last minute of a close game ruined because of the hack a Shaq strategy.

The other reason why my solution would be so effective....the ONLY time you'd ever see a team choose to inbound the ball instead of shoot 2 free throws is when they are down by 3 with less than 15 seconds left.

Edit: it's also notable that this rule ALSO takes the hack a Shaq strategy out. If you hack Shaq while in the penalty....shaq's team can choose between his 2 free throws and in-bounding the ball from under the opposition bucket.

This adjustment to the rules is screaming out to be implemented. I can't think of a SINGLE way it would otherwise impact the game.

You think your solution would work but it won't.

All that would happen is the team would inbound the ball and the defending team would foul again just as they catch it. Then instead of shots, another inbound, another foul. Another inbound, another foul.

I think it would be better. It brings the ball into the front court. Allows the inbounding team an opportunity to catch it at the three point line. At that point, you're in 4point play territory, and refs SHOULD be liberal with continuation/act of shooting fouls. You can also ensure a good free throw shooter takes the shots.

[WuTang_OG]

They are going to do a documentary on Presti and building this OKC team

[DreamTeam09]

Someone show me RJ #s vs Jdubs #s

[WaltFrazier]

lol yeah they didn't follow their own written rules.

It's an interesting wrinkle that I don't think any team has taken advantage of. At least ive never seen it.

A player looking to kill 4 seconds of clock could simply hoist the ball as high and far into the stands as possible. Technically speaking....the clock should not stop until the ball makes contact with an object or human.

I would imagine that a full strength hoist could last 4 to 5 seconds. I've never seen a player do this at any level of ball.

Not into the stands...but that one guy threw it way up in the air to kill clock and I believe it was Mo Pete who caught it and chucked a 3 and hit it.

The average hang time on an NFL punt is 4.3-5 seconds. No player could throw a basketball that high or far or for so long.

[mdenny]

Absolutely. This a new loophole that has only been in practice for around 20 years. It started it college. Then it became sparingly used in the NBA. Now it's dominant in both.

The principle is very simple: a team should not be punished because the opposition is in the penalty.

The solution is simple. Any foul occurring after the penalty....the fouled team has an option of shooting 2 free throws or in-balling from any location of their choosing.

This adjustment continues to punish a team in the penalty rather than reward them.

This loophole strategy is literally destroying games. Making the most potentially jntense of finishes into procedural let-downs. We are now seeing it employed more and more. Only a matter of time til it impacts 2 finishes of every 7 game series.

What other sport does a team with a small lead have incentive to break the rules?

The hack a Shaq loophole is fine. I've never seen the last minute of a close game ruined because of the hack a Shaq strategy.

The other reason why my solution would be so effective....the ONLY time you'd ever see a team choose to inbound the ball instead of shoot 2 free throws is when they are down by 3 with less than 15 seconds left.

Edit: it's also notable that this rule ALSO takes the hack a Shaq strategy out. If you hack Shaq while in the penalty....shaq's team can choose between his 2 free throws and in-bounding the ball from under the opposition bucket.

This adjustment to the rules is screaming out to be implemented. I can't think of a SINGLE way it would otherwise impact the game.

You think your solution would work but it won't.

All that would happen is the team would inbound the ball and the defending team would foul again just as they catch it. Then instead of shots, another inbound, another foul. Another inbound, another foul.

I think it would be better. It brings the ball into the front court. Allows the inbounding team an opportunity to catch it at the three point line. At that point, you're in 4point play territory, and refs SHOULD be liberal with continuation/act of shooting fouls. You can also ensure a good free throw shooter takes the shots.

With due respect Tripod...you're not seeing it.

The team would be inbounding the ball from UNDER the bucket. So yes. Conceivably....a team could foul and foul and foul and foul...taking off half a second each iteration. But they'd also be risking the foul in the act each time.

They also risk fouling too early and then it's two free throws plus possession.

The "foul on the floor" is only effective because the inbound is from halfcourt. It's much harder to make that foul before the shot motion when the ball comes from under the bucket.

[PushDaRock]

Ochai becoming our version of Nesmith would be huge for this team.

[HumbleRen]

Haliburton is channeling his Steve Nash in this quarter.

[Boogie!]

Fun game good music

[Boogie!]

That’s an offensive foul on og shoving siakam

[Basketball_Jones]

Thibs finally cares about defense. Need Delon to lock down freakin McConnell