PG: Need some Dark(o) Magic (1-2)

[dballislife]

poeltl was suppose to somewhat help out with the defense in the starting lineup but even hes been terrible...we cant start one defender in this league and expect to win lol...gotta do something

[Valard]

The facebook trolls out there blaming Barnes for this game and calling for Darko to get fired..

Jesus this fanbase is insane.

*shrugs* I see no issue with either.

...He yells from his asylum window.

Yea, you're right.

Their track record dictates we should keep riding this out.

[MoneyBall]

"Solid" on a team that wasn't trying to win. This team doesn't know how to win yet.

Agbaji's defense was his strength last season and that had nothing to do with the team being bad. He just hasn't helped them at all so far this season.

He's closer to average than elite defensively. If you're not elite, you're not going to impact every game on that end.

I'll take average over bad. Not being able to guard the pick and roll will absolutely leave a negative impact on the team.

[dballislife]

wemby bullied this mavs frontcourt which bullied us lol we are screwed tmr

[TRik]

Me thinks there will be a lot of this vibe post games this season.

For this game though….wooof to Sickly and Yuk.

[CazOnReal]

Fanbase when we go 1-3 despite us all acknowledging we had a tough opening schedule:

[raptor jesus]

With zero rim protection, maybe they should chill with the low-resistance ball pressure 35 feet from the basket.

[rapsincr]

i wanna see hepburn get some minutes too, he plays good defense and hit shots in the pre-season.

[Harcore Fenton Mun]

The stretched defense worked in the pre-season, with the third stringers. It doesn't work with the starters.

[YoungG]

Question for the board...Have we seen enough of the Raptors to foresee the inevitable, or should we grant them more time to figure things out?

Don't know why anybody wouldn't give this team at least 10 15 games to see what they look like

I think that's fair. As much as I see the writing on the wall, the top brass has invested A LOT of money into this core. End of November is my marker.

[ItsDanger]

It's not a stretch that this team could start 1-9.

If that happens, big changes required. The time for patience is over

[YoungG]

Question for the board...Have we seen enough of the Raptors to foresee the inevitable, or should we grant them more time to figure things out?

This team hasnt actually played all that much together.

Problem is IQ and Jak look like bench players

I remember hearing how well IQ was playing coming into training camp. The hype was surely there. Right now, it seems that IQ's role is either ill-defined or he's going against what's being asked of him. I thought he was going to be the 'catch-and-shoot 3&D' guy. So far, he's looked like the 'trying to show I'm worth all of that money' guy, and it's hurting his team.

[ciueli]

i saw the box score, what's wrong with the team?

They can't defend anyone, an undermanned Dallas team just dropped 139 points on them. I said when they traded for Ingram it wouldn't work, a starting lineup of IQ, Barrett, and Ingram at the 1, 2, 3 is a bad fit at the defensive end, this team has too many one way players to be successful.

[Randle McMurphy]

Think about how much money Masai wanted for a contract extension to keep running this flawed roster he assembled out there

[ItsDanger]

Fanbase when we go 1-3 despite us all acknowledging we had a tough opening schedule:

I personally don't get a cut of team revenues. So I don't care for some 35 win type season. This is a team maxed on salary with mediocre upside at best. I see lots of young players showing good improvement so far around the league. I don't see it here.

[Tha Cynic]

It is very apparent that Battle should be taking Dick's spot in the rotation. He is a much more useful player right now while JKW is out. Battle has also outplayed him so far in their time in the NBA.

[YoungG]

Question for the board...Have we seen enough of the Raptors to foresee the inevitable, or should we grant them more time to figure things out?

I agree. This team is missing some key archetypes to really hit it's optimal play. There is not enough consistent three point shooting, there's a lack of perimeter and post defense (specifically shot blocking), key roles are undefined, and team is still struggling to gel on the court. The tough part is I can root for a bad Raptors' team, but I hate watching the Raptors when they don't play with consistent effort. I feel like the needy partner that continues to scream about effort over intent

[Mr.Raptorsingh]

Raps can't defend a chair right now

[Mr.Raptorsingh]

It is very apparent that Battle should be taking Dick's spot in the rotation. He is a much more useful player right now while JKW is out. Battle has also outplayed him so far in their time in the NBA.

Man Walter is injured again, dude is injury prone

[Jeremy Lin 7]

Can't see Quickley being a high level starting PG. Can't defend, plays at one speed, and lacks basketball IQ.

What does he offer when his shot is not falling? Maybe we were too spoiled watching Kyle Lowry for years.