Do we really want the guy who gave Poeltl his contract to make future decisions?

[Duffman100]

It's clear as day who stopped posting when the going got tough last season, and even the season before. I won't point out their names, but they have started re-appearing this season, after our hot start.

After seeing the Poeltl extension, I realized Bobby won't even take us from a play-in to a 1st round homecourt. He's that bad. So as long as he's here, this franchise won't become a contender. It's better to bottom out from here and re-start with a new FO.

Awesome. Then I expect you to be active when we win games. Sounds fair right? Wouldn't want to be like those other posters that conveniently you don't want to name?

I don't see wins in this current season as contributing to that goal of building a contender. The process of building a contender has stages, and we rushed it last 2 seasons. Our ceiling is capped as 1st round exit, due to it being rushed - as evident by our young players plateauing in their development and lack of offensive talent from our draft choices.

That is why I said this season reminds me of 2021/2022

So you're saying you're just going to come and complain?

[DelAbbot]

Awesome. Then I expect you to be active when we win games. Sounds fair right? Wouldn't want to be like those other posters that conveniently you don't want to name?

I don't see wins in this current season as contributing to that goal of building a contender. The process of building a contender has stages, and we rushed it last 2 seasons. Our ceiling is capped as 1st round exit, due to it being rushed - as evident by our young players plateauing in their development and lack of offensive talent from our draft choices.

That is why I said this season reminds me of 2021/2022

So you're saying you're just going to come and complain?

No. You said I don't cheer for wins, and I explained why I don't cheer for wins this season

[James_Raptors]

Yes.

[MEDIC]

I can't really pass judgement of any kind until after the trade deadline.

If he trades RJ plus whoever plus picks for AD, he is either Rogers yes man or he's just not a good GM.

If he does nothing......not great, but I can live with that.

If he somehow finds a backup big, & some scoring off the bench, then I he is on the right track.

Unless there is a deal available for a healthy/ youngish star, I want to see Scottie, BI, RJ, CMB, Shead, Jakobe & possibly Mamu on this roster next season.

[Appostis]

Holy this thread is bad nonsense take centeral.

He's a big man who has been relatively healthy. He has a bad back..relax.

[NotMyKawhi]

He should be fired. No way to fix it. Cant trade your salaries. You cant even ocahi for long term bc you need that money off the books.

Gotta pay mamu, deeper into the tax. Gotta pay shead. Theres no way out.

[Tripod]

He should be fired. No way to fix it. Cant trade your salaries. You cant even ocahi for long term bc you need that money off the books.

Gotta pay mamu, deeper into the tax. Gotta pay shead. Theres no way out.

This is ridiculous

[Westside Gunn]

Poeltl could've got the same money from another team if it wasn't going to be Toronto. I am not sure if people follow the contracts players get in this league.

Poeltl was also the main reason why Ingram came here, so I'll take it

No one can predict injuries except when its Anthony Davis

[NotMyKawhi]

He should be fired. No way to fix it. Cant trade your salaries. You cant even ocahi for long term bc you need that money off the books.

Gotta pay mamu, deeper into the tax. Gotta pay shead. Theres no way out.

This is ridiculous

Its not ridiculous. No one wants IQ, Poeltl or RJ.

[NotMyKawhi]

Poeltl could've got the same money from another team if it wasn't going to be Toronto. I am not sure if people follow the contracts players get in this league.

Poeltl was also the main reason why Ingram came here, so I'll take it

No one can predict injuries except when its Anthony Davis

This is a lie. AD played way more games over the last 3 years than Poeltl.

[James_Raptors]

Poeltl could've got the same money from another team if it wasn't going to be Toronto. I am not sure if people follow the contracts players get in this league.

Poeltl was also the main reason why Ingram came here, so I'll take it

No one can predict injuries except when its Anthony Davis

This is a lie. AD played way more games over the last 3 years than Poeltl.

..and less over the last 2 seasons, but you knew that.
Bottom line is both players have/had injury concerns.

[bape_lovers]

Huh?!

He should be fired. No way to fix it. Cant trade your salaries. You cant even ocahi for long term bc you need that money off the books.

Gotta pay mamu, deeper into the tax. Gotta pay shead. Theres no way out.

This is ridiculous

Its not ridiculous. No one wants IQ, Poeltl or RJ.

[Clutch0z24]

We are not the team to be calling out other teams or players with injury history....I think this Raptors core team has been one of the most injured teams in the NBA....Idek if the starting lineup played many games together since aquiring them a few years ago....

Calling out other players who have been injured without looking at our current team who have missed a hell of alot of games due to injury is funny.

[Tripod]

He should be fired. No way to fix it. Cant trade your salaries. You cant even ocahi for long term bc you need that money off the books.

Gotta pay mamu, deeper into the tax. Gotta pay shead. Theres no way out.

This is ridiculous

Its not ridiculous. No one wants IQ, Poeltl or RJ.

You said there is no way out....that's a lie.

Raptors have all their picks.
RJ is an expiring next year and according to a bunch of people on here, that's worth gold.

If people have not noticed, values fluctuate all the time in NBA from year to year. It's how we got BI. If IQ was shooting 40% from 3 this year, his value would be different. If Yak was healthy and playing, his would be different.

It's just dumb to say where is no way out. There absolutely is. It may take patience...and THAT some can't accept.

[NotMyKawhi]

This is ridiculous

Its not ridiculous. No one wants IQ, Poeltl or RJ.

You said there is no way out....that's a lie.

Raptors have all their picks.
RJ is an expiring next year and according to a bunch of people on here, that's worth gold.

If people have not noticed, values fluctuate all the time in NBA from year to year. It's how we got BI. If IQ was shooting 40% from 3 this year, his value would be different. If Yak was healthy and playing, his would be different.

It's just dumb to say where is no way out. There absolutely is. It may take patience...and THAT some can't accept.

4 years of patience waiting for Poeltl and IQs contract to expire.

If they dont want RJ with 2 years, they wont want iQ and Poeltl until theyre expirings.

[Shakril]

Poeltl could've got the same money from another team if it wasn't going to be Toronto. I am not sure if people follow the contracts players get in this league.

Poeltl was also the main reason why Ingram came here, so I'll take it

No one can predict injuries except when its Anthony Davis

This is a lie. AD played way more games over the last 3 years than Poeltl.

Actually its true. You forgot to mention that poeltl didnt play a lot of games on purpose, not because of injuries. Yes he had smaller ones, but in general he was available. Whilst AD is constantly out, especially since he is in Dallas.

[Tripod]

Its not ridiculous. No one wants IQ, Poeltl or RJ.

You said there is no way out....that's a lie.

Raptors have all their picks.
RJ is an expiring next year and according to a bunch of people on here, that's worth gold.

If people have not noticed, values fluctuate all the time in NBA from year to year. It's how we got BI. If IQ was shooting 40% from 3 this year, his value would be different. If Yak was healthy and playing, his would be different.

It's just dumb to say where is no way out. There absolutely is. It may take patience...and THAT some can't accept.

4 years of patience waiting for Poeltl and IQs contract to expire.

If they dont want RJ with 2 years, they wont want iQ and Poeltl until theyre expirings.

You can't be this dumb...so I assume you are trolling.

[canada_dry]

Theres no way Bobby goes before Darko.

[Appostis]

Poeltl could've got the same money from another team if it wasn't going to be Toronto. I am not sure if people follow the contracts players get in this league.

Poeltl was also the main reason why Ingram came here, so I'll take it

No one can predict injuries except when its Anthony Davis

This is a lie. AD played way more games over the last 3 years than Poeltl.

Actually its true. You forgot to mention that poeltl didnt play a lot of games on purpose, not because of injuries. Yes he had smaller ones, but in general he was available. Whilst AD is constantly out, especially since he is in Dallas.

People don't like to do that critical thinking.

Same thing goes for people holding Darkos record on tanking seasons against him... It doesn't fit their narrative so they ignore those details.

[Boogie!]

I thought Masai traded for poeltl and Masai gave him that contract. Now that it’s seen as a bad contract suddenly it’s all Bobby’s fault? Mods, talk some sense into this man, I thought there’s no way we can determine who’s actually making the decisions here.